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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Please someone tell me why IEI are hooked on the Notebook movie?
    https://youtube.com/shorts/Uj7ptfIsA3g?feature=share
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Ewww heterosexuals. Always throwing it in my goddamn face.

    Guy seems like a cuck. And a delta or alpha type. Not Beta.

    I liked the 2nd video better, but still kind of came off like ILE/SEI to me.

    Why would Notebook be beta quadra specific?

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    Why is this a thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazaam View Post
    Ewww heterosexuals. Always throwing it in my goddamn face.

    Guy seems like a cuck. And a delta or alpha type. Not Beta.

    I liked the 2nd video better, but still kind of came off like ILE/SEI to me.

    Why would Notebook be beta quadra specific?
    I have watched most of their videos and yes they are SLE and IEI.
    The stereotypical SLE and IEI are just not always true to real life

    Notebook is romantic and an ideal love very idealistic thing
    Last edited by Beautiful sky; 01-20-2023 at 11:18 PM.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Wife looks SEI shes fat and looks obnoxious

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    SLE and IEI seems right to me she looks like a beta NF i knowww the SLE does have an ILE vibe idk why but i still feel hes SLE rn
    i dont like that they seem self absorbed fake happy like something has to be wrong there
    no i cant decide between SEI-ILE and SLE-IEI
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    Quote Originally Posted by PussyInASarcophagus View Post
    Wife looks SEI shes fat and looks obnoxious
    Why? Because she’s heavier than the stereotypical IEI? Why? I ask you!
    She’s definitely IEI
    You should watch more videos
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    She’s a typical IEI cuddle bug

    https://youtube.com/shorts/ieO6bOg-zJs?feature=share
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    1 million dollars for every time and SLE says “honey”
    https://youtube.com/shorts/tMRAMYYRbz8?feature=share
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    SLE and IEI seems right to me she looks like a beta NF i knowww the SLE does have an ILE vibe idk why but i still feel hes SLE rn
    i dont like that they seem self absorbed fake happy like something has to be wrong there
    no i cant decide between SEI-ILE and SLE-IEI
    They are tying to make money in the video business and providing is a best way of life judging from where they live (boonies) in a cold climate.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Tbh my first thought was that this couple is weird for staging and filming fake interactions for TikTok. Then I saw the millions of views on these videos and realized they have to be making bank and are probably laughing at us laughing at them.

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    They don't seem to be beta. Very silly, light-weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo View Post
    They don't seem to be beta. Very silly, light-weight.
    They are
    They are
    They are!!!!!
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Why? Because she’s heavier than the stereotypical IEI? Why? I ask you!
    She’s definitely IEI
    You should watch more videos
    What makes you think she's IEI other than a bizarre VI that isn't even there?

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    https://youtube.com/shorts/__55myCZqFo?feature=share

    This would be pretty awful to watch for sensing types. Seems like very weak Si.

    https://youtube.com/shorts/pi9x1o3RUzA?feature=share

    Both seem ethical to me
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
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    Quote Originally Posted by PussyInASarcophagus View Post
    What makes you think she's IEI other than a bizarre VI that isn't even there?
    Because she seems brittle because she seeks out frequent emotional comfort from him and all of this describes her perfectly

    “ female IEI is the embodiment of the conventional ideas of femininity. She is mysterious, elusive, changeable, emotional, risible, and fascinating. Yet, she seems so sensitive, brittle, and defenseless that it makes any man want to turn his shoulders and protect her. ”
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    IEI is not a bad typing for her but the guy is definitely not an SLE
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ung-s-subjects

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    I think my husband (SLE) would say, “that guy is a total bitch”.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    https://youtube.com/shorts/__55myCZqFo?feature=share

    This would be pretty awful to watch for sensing types. Seems like very weak Si.
    She doesn’t actually crack eggs with a hammer. It’s just a joke for the video.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    I think my husband (SLE) would say, “that guy is a total bitch”.
    Isn’t your husband LSE?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Isn’t your husband LSE?
    He was a few years ago, before the enlightenment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    He was a few years ago, before the enlightenment
    lol very nice
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    She doesn’t actually crack eggs with a hammer. It’s just a joke for the video.
    It's very unpleasant for me to watch as someone with Si as activating function. Seems very unhygienic, and an irresponsible way to treat food. My SEI mom would probably think they are idiots.
    Quote Originally Posted by idiot View Post
    I have been thinking about what Alive was saying about everyone on here being IEI, and I conclude that he is right, or at least he is on to something.

    If Jung based his theories on the people he met in his life, even if he met more people than the average person, that means that he based his theories on a certain type of person. The type of person who might go to him for therapy or talks, or who might believe the esoteric ideas he was spouting at the time. Thus it's possible that he did not categorize all humans into types, but just made subtypes for a specific type of person. This overarching type of person is the same type that is heavily interested in theories of this kind, and whom Alive says is an IEI.

    Therefore, Alive is right. We are all IEIs with subtypes. With that, I'm off this forum
    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ung-s-subjects

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    1 million dollars for every time and SLE says “honey”
    https://youtube.com/shorts/tMRAMYYRbz8?feature=share
    @Leo
    Wow you just passed up a million dollars
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Because she seems brittle because she seeks out frequent emotional comfort from him and all of this describes her perfectly

    “ female IEI is the embodiment of the conventional ideas of femininity. She is mysterious, elusive, changeable, emotional, risible, and fascinating. Yet, she seems so sensitive, brittle, and defenseless that it makes any man want to turn his shoulders and protect her. ”
    Comfort is Si. Comfort seeking behavior usually DS Si. Holy shit read theory

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    Quote Originally Posted by PussyInASarcophagus View Post
    Comfort is Si. Comfort seeking behavior usually DS Si. Holy shit read theory
    It's also Si role and it's also being an introvert
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Husband is trying to engage wife with nonstop questions. Not a thing for a SLE- Declarer! She looks annoyed with questions at the moment. Also she does not once come off as an Asker in any one of these shorts (and IEI is Asker).

    Definitely they are Duals, and Duality makes interactions interesting, and they do have followers. But I don't see Beta IEI/SLE, for the above reason - and another, here:

    That is @Shazaam's reaction to the first 2 videos you posted here. His repugnance makes me think that this couple does not represent Beta (Victim/Aggressor) romantic style.

    With just two basic romantic two styles, a full-on representation of your opposing style can seem repugnant, silly, un-relatable. Sometimes when my husband and I are watching a show and the other style shows we both respond like, "WHAT?! Why!?". Then I realize - "Oh, that's Victim/Aggressor they are illustrating." It's frequent because victim/aggressor is dramatic, and suits well in a drama. But you do find both styles in the movies. [A Caregiver/Childlike romance example is Cary Grant/Deborah Kerr in "An Affair to Remember"].

    The couple you showcase here consistently dramatizes their Child/Caregiver style.

    In this first video, that Shazaam liked the least, it's so obvious:

    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    In this short, wife plays a crying Child - not a crying Victim. She does not desire to be saved by her Aggressor-savior, but to draw her Caregiver's comfort, which her husband promptly provides, as she expected, even praying over her. A real "Aaargh!" to a Victim/Aggressor type, but more "Aww!" to Childlike/Caregiver" type. Since half of folk are one style and half the other, it is not surprising they can garner likes and follows with a pool of possibly half the viewers finding them relatable [while the other half says, "Ugh!"].

    But a Childlike, - like you! - might find them cute, and watch lots! While Betas and Gammas more likely to tune out after one or two.

    So I agree with Shazaam's suggestion: Alpha or Delta. I have not identified their types, but I most often type by process of elimination, and I have now narrowed them down to four of the eight possible Dual pairs. Their drama shorts seem rather fake/exaggerated to me, personally, but that is different from Shazaam's reaction.

    Also I am not critical of following it. Even I, a serious vs. merry type, watch silly things when I want a light moment. For me that tends to be funny baby moments or DoDo's unlikely animal friends. Aww.


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    I don't see it, or it could just be me seeing how forced and fake the interaction looks since it's obviously for entertainment purposes. Though I do react in a similar way, I try to get the other person to state what is wrong and try my best to get them out of that situation/scenario.
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    "crying to get my husband's reaction".

    Gross. So, she lies to get her needs met. Psyychoooooh

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    These two also feel IEI and SLE to me
    https://youtube.com/shorts/jSERWe-3ND8?feature=share
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    At least that guy is more of a SLE than the other guy. But they could also be a LSI/EIE couple to me too.

    We get it already. You're straight.

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    I think that Beta duals are happy experiencing things together
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    Quote Originally Posted by VewyScawwyNawcissist View Post
    SLE and IEI seems right to me she looks like a beta NF i knowww the SLE does have an ILE vibe idk why but i still feel hes SLE rn
    i dont like that they seem self absorbed fake happy like something has to be wrong there
    no i cant decide between SEI-ILE and SLE-IEI
    SEE and IEI. They could be semi duels. Either way it's pretty corny and scripted.

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    Patrick Swayze SLE and Lisa Swayze (IEI)

    https://www.reddit.com/r/OldSchoolCo..._met_as_dance/
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    Patrick Swayze - ISFJ
    Lisa Swayze - ENFJ

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