The Truth of Socionics

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Yeah I've had very similar thoughts earlier. There are many psychological theories that are better, like Attitudinal Psyche- but socionics always often gets things right 50% of the time and it's annoying.

Jung distorted things because he had a hard on for imagination as opposed to reality. What some people have criticized IEIs for, but really the best IEIs understand how both are important. ((it's a mistake to think that IEIs don't understand 'reality' well, because reality as a whole IEI probably understands the best.)) That is really the core jist of why socionics has failed to me, it's not grounded enough in a way that's scientifically measurable. Whereas in AP I can go 'oh fuck yeah that drawing is just like somebody I know and met IRL' Yeah, a big part of this is me being an IEI who wants the reality & rawness of Se as opposed to fanciful imaginations, and the reason why I agree with you so much is that we're probably mirrors in socionics (You EIE, me IEI) - but that is exactly what I mean about it being half right.

[Still Alive]

Yeah I've had very similar thoughts earlier. There are many psychological theories that are better, like Attitudinal Psyche- but socionics always often gets things right 50% of the time and it's annoying.

Jung distorted things because he had a hard on for imagination as opposed to reality. What some people have criticized IEIs for, but really the best IEIs understand how both are important. ((it's a mistake to think that IEIs don't understand 'reality' well, because reality as a whole IEI probably understands the best.)) That is really the core jist of why socionics has failed to me, it's not grounded enough in a way that's scientifically measurable. Whereas in AS I can go 'oh fuck yeah that drawing is just like somebody I know and met IRL' Yeah, a big part of this is me being an IEI who wants the reality & rawness of Se as opposed to fanciful imaginations, and the reason why I agree with you so much is that we're probably mirrors in socionics (You EIE, me IEI) - but that is exactly what I mean about it being half right.

I think socionics is flawed simply because everyone is somwhat restricted by their own type, with Jung and Aushra being IEI. I think out of all the 8 functions, 4 are in my opinion not that well defined, and these are Te (which is often reduced to facts), Ne (which is seen as possibilities and ideas), Si and Se. all these functions are rather weak for IEI, with the sensing functions being of course harder to explain as an intuitive. Fe and Fi on the other hand are surprisingly well defined. socionics just needs to find some ways to fix these raw edges, which will happen over time.

[Metamorph]

I think socionics is flawed simply because everyone is somwhat restricted by their own type, with Jung and Aushra being IEI. I think out of all the 8 functions, 4 are in my opinion not that well defined, and these are Te (which is often reduced to facts), Ne (which is seen as possibilities and ideas), Si and Se. all these functions are rather weak for IEI, with the sensing functions being of course harder to explain as an intuitive. Fe and Fi on the other hand are surprisingly well defined. socionics just needs to find some ways to fix these raw edges, which will happen over time.

...Fi is one of the most poorly-defined of all. If you want to explain socionics by stating Aushra Augustinavichiute is an IEI, then you have to explain why her theory is about metabolism of information in the external world (Te and Ne) instead of being about people's internal feelings and dreams like Jung's was (Ti and Ni.) Hate to break it to you, but socionics is an offshoot of cybernetics while Jung is not, and IEIs aren't usually messing with cybernetics. Sorry not sorry.

[Beautiful sky]

I think socionics is flawed simply because everyone is somwhat restricted by their own type, with Jung and Aushra being IEI. I think out of all the 8 functions, 4 are in my opinion not that well defined, and these are Te (which is often reduced to facts), Ne (which is seen as possibilities and ideas), Si and Se. all these functions are rather weak for IEI, with the sensing functions being of course harder to explain as an intuitive. Fe and Fi on the other hand are surprisingly well defined. socionics just needs to find some ways to fix these raw edges, which will happen over time.

Jung is LII
Aushra ILE

You don’t have to retype people you know to match your own system of understanding about others types. It’s always good practice to trust people who have examined their own types as you have examined your own