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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon View Post
    I think he’s IEE, so Ne lead.
    Ok. Let's say that he is a (I'm so sorry for the word that I'm about to use !!) "broken" IEE (the TIM not the person !! ). I say that because as you know with IEE we still have that 4D Fe "issue" and that Se Role which is also probably not expressed. Note that I don't know that person and I'm not sure if I could find an interview of him on YT in order to further investigate his type. Maybe you're onto something so I'll consider Ne dom as a possible exceptional Typing for an outwardly oriented mind Autistic person (which still sounds like a contradiction but I'll add "Atypical" to keep us safe ahah !).

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    Ok. Let's say that he is a (I'm so sorry for the word that I'm about to use !!) "broken" IEE (the TIM not the person !! ). I say that because as you know with IEE we still have that 4D Fe "issue" and that Se Role which is also probably not expressed. Note that I don't know that person and I'm not sure if I could find an interview of him on YT in order to further investigate his type. Maybe you're onto something so I'll consider Ne dom as a possible exceptional Typing for an outwardly oriented mind Autistic person (which still sounds like a contradiction but I'll add "Atypical" to keep us safe ahah !).
    I found an interview with him here if you want to investigate further. It’s a little boring and the interviewer’s questions made me uncomfortable for him, idk why lol - https://youtu.be/X9zD_RK6-sw

    It’s possible that I have his type wrong, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demon View Post
    I found an interview with him here if you want to investigate further. It’s a little boring and the interviewer’s questions made me uncomfortable for him, idk why lol - https://youtu.be/X9zD_RK6-sw

    It’s possible that I have his type wrong, too.
    I accidentally closed the window in which I spend a certain amount of time writing my initial post !! I'll try to rewrite it word for word !


    Thanks.

    First of all I like the way he thinks and his proper conceptualization of Autism (handicap/disease) which aligns with that of every Psychiatrists and mental Health pro and incidentally, mine ! I like his brain, he is very pragmatic articulated. His Fe is inexistent. His reactions to the host (ESE-N (?)) warmth and humour is next to absolute zero.

    I think he's ILI (?) (He's Ni-Ti with a weak Te (?)). Here is my theory (on the fly and very extrapolated !). I think that Autistic persons have a problem with their Super-Ego. Their social persona is kinda underdeveloped (a bit like in some Genetic conditions like Down Syndrome). In fact I think that all their contact function (all the functions on the right of Model A) have a development issue. Note that like I said I'm thinking about it as I'm writing this post. I will probably think about it more seriously in another time.

    I've noticed the attitude of the host. She tries to well, normalize his condition by contrasting it with his achievement (books and stuff) which is I believe a projection of her own Te Role all that in a "we are all beautiful, we are all wonderful/ come on board " kind of Fe Lead way. (Edit : I like her benevolence and understanding )

    I'm not a fan of the kind of "divide and conquer" thing going on right now and which consists of identifying people and then group them, labeled them as some kind of community and integrate them in a larger group all in the name of some kind of agenda or inclusion of diversity. " What do you identify as ?" seems to be the most important question of this zeitgeist ! Neurodiversity seems to be one of those labels en route to be integrated in a larger group. Autism is not an Identity for God's sake !

    Anyway, that was interesting. Sorry for the rambling !


    I think I did it ! That's my original* post word for word !

    * I reframed some words (just a little touch-up !)

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    I accidentally closed the window in which I spend a certain amount of time writing my initial post !! I'll try to rewrite it word for word !



    Thanks.

    First of all I like the way he thinks and his proper conceptualization of Autism (handicap/disease) which aligns with that of every Psychiatrists and mental Health pro and incidentally, mine ! I like his brain, he is very pragmatic articulated. His Fe is inexistent. His reactions to the host (ESE-N (?)) warmth and humour is next to absolute zero.
    Well, this one is certainly very different but something is off (it is stiff, robotic)
    https://youtu.be/o6NFgyOVG-4?t=3115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    Well, this one is certainly very different but something is off (it is stiff, robotic)
    https://youtu.be/o6NFgyOVG-4?t=3115
    I will put comments here as I'm watching the video (I'll hit pause and write my observations)

    As a reminder, the video starts at 51 minutes (t=3115)


    Being autistic is not an invisible disability at least we shouldn't be as categorical with such generalisation. I could see right away in her gaze (pointing up and unfocused) that she might have some sort of condition and it tooks me 2 seconds to notice it. Autism is not always invisible.
    She said that it's in music that you can see the strengths (interesting choice of word) of Autism (again, not necessarily that's a generalisation) and then she talks about subjective sensory informations and pain because of her sound sensitivity. She said that she creates music and of course performing is indeed essential in any musical work (re)creation (interpretation) but does she compose music ? I don't know. I've noticed the rather dramatic reference to Beethoven but that kind of comparaison doesn't surprise me, exceptional people compare themselves only to exceptional people


    52:50 She talked about "intersection" (this word was accentuated ) between her Autistic perception allowing her "to experience music as a living breathing entity". She basically experience synesthesia (2 to 4 % of the population according to some "studies") another reference to exceptionality. Basically music triggers her imagination and senses which is something expected from a musically inclined sensibility btw. I wonder if she has perfect pitch ? I bet she would have mentioned it if it was the case ! Anyway, all the arguments which were supposed to demonstrate the strengths of Autism in music are in fact subjective...


    53:18 here I see a red flag. She said that her Autism diagnosis was the best birthday gift of her life. It's something I see often in Typology (The INFJ 2% MBTI nonsense) and in people who test high in IQ tests or people who are accepted in Mensa. The label alternates their self-perception ; from now on they can put a name on their suffering. The label is like that quote from Uncle Ben (Spiderman) "With great power comes great responsibilities" and all of a sudden a feeling of actually being really special comes from tha "confirmation" and some of them are instrumentalized or have this sense of "calling of destiny" to fight for a greater purpose.

    53:31 this is what I was talking about in my post above (communities integrating a larger group), I was actually perceiving it (like a feeling in the zeitgeist) but this video confirms what I thought. I feel like a lot of what they are advocating for already exist and that there is no need to recreate groups and label them as a community to fight for the rights they supposedly don't have. I love Wendy Carlos , she's a genius but for some reasons I've never heard her name associated to all those movements. This is why I feel like some significant battles have already been won a long time ago.


    at 55:41 another interview begins. she start to talk about her "sensory profile" (what the heck is that ?) and it sounds like HSP but again it's expected from ASD however, her sensitivity to "nearly imperceptible sounds" points to the exceptional factor of course. Her prosody is kinda "by the book" in fact it feels exactly as if she is reading a book ( note her pauses, you can literally feel the punctuation in her speech pattern esp commas and periods).


    Yeah, I think she is indeed reading a text ! I can see her eyes following the screen in front of her. It's interesting to notice that her head movements are pretty well synchronized with her speech ( almost perfect so it feels overplayed). 59:09 to 59:18 she almost said that she values Si and Te.


    59:38 OMG ! Here we go !! I think I'm gonna stop watching here ! Jesus Christ ! I said it the post above but Autism is not an Identity and what in the world do Genders and Intersextionality have to do with Autism ! I'm sure Freud would have loved to live in our time !
    And she goes on with a rambling that I don't understand ! She seems to postulate that a discrimination is going on. She seems upset because some people in the medical field refuse to diagnose her as autistic because the gender she identify with (I have to be prudent now because appearances are often misleading ahaha !) which sounds like a nonsense to me. "Cisgender ? white-pass ? Neurotypical passing ?" I had to google those because I didn't know what they meant.


    1:01:47 to 1:02:31 Sounds like enneagram 6 and she seems to blame people for her constant fear and second-guessing people's intentions. sounds like Satre : "L'enfer, c'est les autres " (Hell, is the others ).


    1:03:16 to 1:05:12 Okay, I will definitely stop watching here. Victim rhetoric, and social activism she's clearly a kind of SJW.


    I rewind the video to the actual moment where she begun to talk (50:35). "My pronouns are she, her and hers" , it makes sense ! followed by Ti and Fi informations. And then she talked about her fascination for Horses.

    If I had to type her making abstraction of her condition I would say LII but I feel like she's Ni Dom !

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    If I had to type her making abstraction of her condition I would say LII but I feel like she's Ni Dom !
    She is definitely a static while the man in question is dynamic. Look at their eyes. She has heightened Si problems (which is oddly very mobilizing and close to reality how it should manifest) while he has heightened Fi problems (I'd like to postulate that similar Se problems are in the realm of direct reality testing - I definitely have those sort of issues - not as being objective but...).
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    What type on Midjourney


    ILE-Ne?

    he is also a sociopath and a narc
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    Quote Originally Posted by one View Post
    Man looks like Richard Feynman
    Yet, the man talks in Ip mode and Feynman in Ej mode. (I suspect Feynman is C sub).
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    What do you type Feynman
    LIE. Listen to him. He talks what is something might be (Ej) vs autistic man who talks about what he has experienced (Ip).
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