How do I know if I am an EII or SEI? Or another completely different type?

[seeking it]

Every individual prime factorization (idk how to word it better) has a culture for example when I see numbers of the form 2 × 11 like 22, 44, and 242 I get the vibe that they're gardeners who has beautifully decorated gardens all over their community or nation. They also got gothiclike vibe from the powers of 11. Their cultural fondness for nature is inherited from powers of 2. That's the general picture, for more information you could check out my reddit post:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Synesthesia...ead_until_the/

Now that's truly interesting lol. Do you mean you basically sense the factors in these numbers without having to make the conscious mental effort to do the factoring, or without having to use rote learning to remember them?

And are you like do you see full images, fully fleshed out pictures when you think of these numbers?

Here's something for you, do you relate to any of this as below?

Link to article:

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ognitive_style

(Download the PDF, it's free)

You don't have to read it all if you don't want to, just check out the pictures on page 722 (page 13 in the PDF) for the visual artist's vs the scientist's response to a question about a graph shown on page 721 (page 12).

I remember when my extended family is being loud downstairs, I get really irritated I dashed to the door to go home immediately but my mom (ESI) who is concerned prevent me by asking where I'm going, we're actually out of our hometown and oddly enough, I don't have a car with me, (can't drive and don't wanna ����), house keys, and money so how am I supposed to go home? By walking? lol �� I tell my mom and grandma (SEI) in front of my uncle and aunt that they're being utterly noisy, so the former two promise to quiet down so I can calm down after that I went back to the room upstairs where I'm staying for the moment and end up crying because of how tired I am. I don't hear those noises ever again, uncle's family must have left.

It's embarrassing how an older teenager throw a small tantrum in front of people, probably because lack of sleep and being sick at the same time but it doesn't really justify my shameful behavior.

Heh that reminds me of my brother when he wants to sleep, god save you from bothering him with anything then. He's anything but Si ego though, not Se PoLR either

And I mean, anyone who hasn't slept for long enough and is sick and all that, it's totally normal to get grumpy. I don't see that part as type related

What could be more type related is you wanting to run away like that without thinking it through first but I am not sure I mean how impulsive are you in general?

Anyways was that the example for breaking the mood?

Antinatalism has affected my relationship with my birth family, during holiday extended family gatherings I acted on edge it weirded everyone out, my younger brother (who I guess is a ESE or is it SEI? His Fe is apparent but I don't think he's shown any Ni) even call me out on it ��
Every adult in my family has given birth and I see them as criminals unless they own up their mistakes, apologize, never do the same mistakes, and make sure that their remaining offsprings is safe from harm or suffering.

That kinda doesn't sound any kind of Fe creative, they like to keep peace or a fun, light-ish atmosphere more and are more flexible in getting along with as many people as possible

[wanderingsoul]

Now that's truly interesting lol. Do you mean you basically sense the factors in these numbers without having to make the conscious mental effort to do the factoring, or without having to use rote learning to remember them?

For integers greater than 1000, I have to figure out their prime factorization to decide their personality, social role, and belonging. My OLP goes from a simpler concept to a more complex one.

And are you like do you see full images, fully fleshed out pictures when you think of these numbers?

Yes, I can clearly see the theme that each prime factorizations has. The views of cities, countries, states, even their political structures are crystal clear to me. Most of the time I'm not looking at the pictures, I'm looking at the interactions between the numbers. Coprime numbers barely interact with each other except for formal business.

Here's something for you, do you relate to any of this as below?

Link to article:

https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ognitive_style

(Download the PDF, it's free)

You don't have to read it all if you don't want to, just check out the pictures on page 722 (page 13 in the PDF) for the visual artist's vs the scientist's response to a question about a graph shown on page 721 (page 12).

I think I'm more of an object visualizer... I'm still not quite sure.




Heh that reminds me of my brother when he wants to sleep, god save you from bothering him with anything then. He's anything but Si ego though, not Se PoLR either

And I mean, anyone who hasn't slept for long enough and is sick and all that, it's totally normal to get grumpy. I don't see that part as type related

What could be more type related is you wanting to run away like that without thinking it through first but I am not sure I mean how impulsive are you in general?

I'm impulsive when I don't want to stay in the same place for long. Another example of my impulsiveness, but due to boredom is when I go around exploring a small part of a foreign province (not really, we go there periodically for recreational reasons or whatnot) by myself. I spend a lot of money and I don't care if I got lost, better that way than being stuck in a religious, rigid, boarding school suggested by my dad, but I agree to enter anyway because I thought “Why not? Let's try a new environment”. That new environment turns out to be soul crushingly stifling, I got a lot of trouble with the residents including the caretakers. Despite my journey into the unknown, I don't get lost lol. It doesn't help that the dormitory I stayed in is freaking noisy, it makes me feel crazy. There's no place I can go to where it is quiet and serene, my room has 4 people in it for fuck's sake! Not to mention there are rooms that contain 12 people?!? Unbelievable! (At least in my opinion) it was hell for me. Luckily, I got out before I lose my sanity entirely. The people there probably think I'm the weirdest person they have ever encountered lol.

Anyways was that the example for breaking the mood?

Yeah, at least for me. Is it not?




That kinda doesn't sound any kind of Fe creative, they like to keep peace or a fun, light-ish atmosphere more and are more flexible in getting along with as many people as possible

I behave differently around schoolmates, teachers, acquaintances, friends (possibly colleagues too even though I haven't gone to work), strangers, people I don't know or aren't close to in general. I tend to keep the peace. It's strange how I can be authentic around close relatives but not people outside my circle.

[godslave]

I behave differently around schoolmates, teachers, acquaintances, friends (possibly colleagues too even though I haven't gone to work), strangers, people I don't know or aren't close to in general. I tend to keep the peace. It's strange how I can be authentic around close relatives but not people outside my circle.

That's pretty much universal. We all have a Super-Ego (The Freudian one) and a Social Persona. Introverts act and behave more like extroverts in a familiar environment (with family close people) and vice versa. With that said, I like to keep things simple so would you mind sharing : How old are you ? Why do you take Antinatalism so seriously ?

[wanderingsoul]

That's pretty much universal. We all have a Super-Ego (The Freudian one) and a Social Persona. Introverts act and behave more like extroverts in a familiar environment (with family close people) and vice versa. With that said, I like to keep things simple so would you mind sharing : How old are you ? Why do you take Antinatalism so seriously ?

I'm 17. I think suffering is the worst thing that could happen to a sentient being. Ideally, we should prevent it before it happens. Antinatalism has some connections to negative utilitarianism which I also agree.

[godslave]

I'm 17.

Thanks, that's what I thought . Note that it was your 17th post

I think suffering is the worst thing that could happen to a sentient being. Ideally, we should prevent it before it happens. Antinatalism has some connections to negative utilitarianism which I also agree.

I agree with the bold part. However for most of us, life is a struggle and that's just the way it is. You are most certainly not SEI imho and probably some kind of NF. You have some pretty Idealistic/Utopian views and some of your statements convey Intuitive informations :

I don't know if it's a type thing but my imagination goes way deeper and weirder, I feel like I'm an immaterial being from another world trapped into this prison we call flesh. I would like to free myself from this if I got the chance, unfortunately I don't know how.
Me and my friend talks about how we would be better off without a body, that existing as a primitive animal shaped by nature is disgusting.

Those kind of thoughts are not that of a sensor. In fact they are not very healthy imho even coming from an intuitive (for hormonal reasons unless you have some kind of condition) but you are young so it's probably a"phase". SEI would not wish to be disconnected from their bodily sensations imho, Si is their Lead function after all. I think you're Aristocratic>Democratic ("ideological tribe" etc...). I can't tell if you are indeed EII. In fact it's not that obvious because EIIs are usually not lazy and your initial post gave me an Ip vibe. I don't have enough informations but Beta or Delta NF are both possible so far. To answer your initial question I would say NF>SEI.

Note however that my typing skills are not very sharp.

[wanderingsoul]

Thanks, that's what I thought . Note that it was your 17th post

I agree with the bold part. However for most of us, life is a struggle and that's just the way it is. You are most certainly not SEI imho and probably some kind of NF. You have some pretty Idealistic/Utopian views and some of your statements convey Intuitive informations :


Those kind of thoughts are not that of a sensor. In fact they are not very healthy imho even coming from an intuitive (for hormonal reasons unless you have some kind of condition) but you are young so it's probably a"phase". SEI would not wish to be disconnected from their bodily sensations imho, Si is their Lead function after all. I think you're Aristocratic>Democratic ("ideological tribe" etc...). I can't tell if you are indeed EII. In fact it's not that obvious because EIIs are usually not lazy and your initial post gave me an Ip vibe. I don't have enough informations but Beta or Delta NF are both possible so far. To answer your initial question I would say NF>SEI.

Note however that my typing skills are not very sharp.

Do you think I'm more of an IEI, EIE, EII, or IEE? What about subtypes?

The reason behind my thoughts of wanting to sever myself from my body is because of my unwillingness to take care of my body. I see my body as an unnecessary burden. I don't know if it's depression, but I hope not. I took my laziness onto a whole new level lol.

[godslave]

Do you think I'm more of an IEI, EIE, EII, or IEE? What about subtypes?

It's hard to say right now but time and interaction with forum members will help you finding your best fit type. As far as I know you are at the beginning of your self-typing journey. ~ The road is long and each step is only the beginning.

The reason behind my thoughts of wanting to sever myself from my body is because of my unwillingness to take care of my body. I see my body as an unnecessary burden. I don't know if it's depression, but I hope not. I took my laziness onto a whole new level lol.

I think this might be NTR (non type related) unfortunately. It's true that intuitive can be "out there" sometimes but society (and our family members and loved ones) expects from us a minimum of selfcare. Under a certain threshold not taking care of our body can have some serious consequences on our functioning and that would be unhealthy of course. Society is full of intuitives who are perfectly integrated and the manifestations of their weak sensory are rectified by the people around them, that's learning by experience. In a way even the most intuitives types conform with the specificities inherent to their types to the society standards because that's the point of parental education, school and basically socialisation. Anyway, that might point to INp or INj H subtype 4D Ni (EII or IEI)

[seeking it]

I think I'm more of an object visualizer... I'm still not quite sure.

I was asking because the stuff you described with numbers sounded a lot like the object visualizer yea.

Do your images around the numbers look like movies btw or static pictures?

I'm impulsive when I don't want to stay in the same place for long. Another example of my impulsiveness, but due to boredom is when I go around exploring a small part of a foreign province (not really, we go there periodically for recreational reasons or whatnot) by myself. I spend a lot of money and I don't care if I got lost, better that way than being stuck in a religious, rigid, boarding school suggested by my dad, but I agree to enter anyway because I thought “Why not? Let's try a new environment”. That new environment turns out to be soul crushingly stifling, I got a lot of trouble with the residents including the caretakers. Despite my journey into the unknown, I don't get lost lol. It doesn't help that the dormitory I stayed in is freaking noisy, it makes me feel crazy. There's no place I can go to where it is quiet and serene, my room has 4 people in it for fuck's sake! Not to mention there are rooms that contain 12 people?!? Unbelievable! (At least in my opinion) it was hell for me. Luckily, I got out before I lose my sanity entirely. The people there probably think I'm the weirdest person they have ever encountered lol.

Ok, the EIIs I've known don't complain this loudly about sensory discomfort. I'm not sure if this is type related

But what is more type related, EIIs stereotypically don't mind some "religious, rigid" environment. Well, maybe the Ne subtype can be bothered by it, I don't know.

Anyways was that the example for breaking the mood?

Yeah, at least for me. Is it not?

It is. But how often do you upset the mood in the "room" otherwise?

Goddamn it, I don't know how to reply separately between conversations �� how do you reply between different quotations anyway?

You can use the quote feature ("Wrap QUOTE tags around selected text") above the textbox, or manually add the quote tags.

[wanderingsoul]

I was asking because the stuff you described with numbers sounded a lot like the object visualizer yea.

Do your images around the numbers look like movies btw or static pictures?




Ok, the EIIs I've known don't complain this loudly about sensory discomfort. I'm not sure if this is type related

But what is more type related, EIIs stereotypically don't mind some "religious, rigid" environment. Well, maybe the Ne subtype can be bothered by it, I don't know.




It is. But how often do you upset the mood in the "room" otherwise?




You can use the quote feature ("Wrap QUOTE tags around selected text") above the textbox, or manually add the quote tags.

Usually static, once I got the full picture of the landscape I can move around to see the whole surrounding.

Mostly family gatherings, otherwise I'm fine.

I try to do what you've said, but I keep messing up My Te is as bad as that

[seeking it]

Usually static, once I got the full picture of the landscape I can move around to see the whole surrounding.

Mostly family gatherings, otherwise I'm fine.
I try to do what you've said, but I keep messing up My Te is as bad as that

Hmm ok not sure what else to comment on regarding your type right now. I'll let you know if anything else comes to mind

As for the quoting, you can just try it like copy the lines from the post that you'd like to quote, into the reply textbox, then highlight that text and click the QUOTE button to get the "quote" tags wrapped around it. Just basically don't write your reply inside those tags lol

[wanderingsoul]

Hmm ok not sure what else to comment on regarding your type right now. I'll let you know if anything else comes to mind

As for the quoting, you can just try it like copy the lines from the post that you'd like to quote, into the reply textbox, then highlight that text and click the QUOTE button to get the "quote" tags wrapped around it. Just basically don't write your reply inside those tags lol

I have a question for you, is Ni more about processing time or beliefs, ideals, and symbols? If the latter I can accept that I may be a Beta NF, if the former I'm bad at anticipating time let alone time management which I think is more Te related, probably because I have undiagnosed dyscalculia as a consequence of my synesthesia.

So far, what type do you think I am? EIIs with their Te suggestive will be more conscientious, but I also avoid aggression too. (To be honest with you, I like reading fictions about abusive relationships coupled with my fascination for gore mentioned before, does this sound like Se suggestive to you? )

Si doesn't seem to be my leading function, but I do like comfort! Or is it a non type related thing?

My 1D Te wouldn't let me understand that easily I'll try to experiment

[seeking it]

I have a question for you, is Ni more about processing time or beliefs, ideals, and symbols? If the latter I can accept that I may be a Beta NF, if the former I'm bad at anticipating time let alone time management which I think is more Te related, probably because I have undiagnosed dyscalculia as a consequence of my synesthesia.

So far, what type do you think I am? EIIs with their Te suggestive will be more conscientious, but I also avoid aggression too. (To be honest with you, I like reading fictions about abusive relationships coupled with my fascination for gore mentioned before, does this sound like Se suggestive to you? )

Si doesn't seem to be my leading function, but I do like comfort! Or is it a non type related thing?

My 1D Te wouldn't let me understand that easily I'll try to experiment

Tbh Ni is related to all that. Fi can also relate to beliefs and ideals, but it could be either. Time management I don't think is any NF's strength.

The fiction stuff, not sure, it could be Se seeking yes but also I think I've seen sadomasochistic stuff attributed to Delta. So this may depend on content. I know an EII-Ne once told me he was a masochist. Someone else can correct me on some of this, as I might remember wrong for Delta, but to me it seemed like, Delta is into doing, inflicting or suffering these sadomasochistic pain sensations, while Se/Ni valuing would involve power games of dominance/submission. Also Deltas are all about using tools, supposedly.

Btw I don't think synesthesia causes dyscalculia, so like I have (a different kind of) synesthesia too for numbers and I think it for me helps more with numbers rather than getting in the way

Though the study I linked for you, it does note that being an object visualiser and being like artistic or personal with it (like you are), that can cause problems, as it doesn't help with maths or spatial calculations when those would be the most fitting for the task. Not that people can necessarily choose what mindsets to use for different tasks.

My synesthesia is more abstract, can be linked to systematic concepts, or it's spatial sometimes, or just linked with colours, and other visual elements but nothing like the pictures imagined up by object visualisers.