Has Anyone Seen These Socionics Tools?

[AWellArmedCat]

I just found this website that has a bunch of interesting and handy little type comparison tools and I was wondering if anyone else had seen/used them before. If so, what do y'all think about their usefulness?

https://sociotype.xyz/fc

https://sociotype.xyz/gc/SEI-SEE

I was looking for comparisons between SEI and SEE to help me type my girlfriend, and sorta stumbled onto this in my search

[Squirrel]

I have used it many times

It's good actually

I also like their main test

Thanks for reminding me of it

[Manatroid92]

It's a shame that it's kind of forced to use a lot of rough translations in how the small groups/dichotomies are worded, because I think it could be a very helpful tool for narrowing down types, outside of function and type descriptions.

Also some tools just haven't been given enough attention to yet. I don't think this is the fault of the creator, necessarily, I think they're just going by what their sources say. For example, the External Signs tool has a good number of traits to pick from in some categories, but Constructivism/Emotivism and Static/Dynamic have virtually nothing.

I think it has potential, it's just not quite there yet.

[Popcorn]

I just found this website that has a bunch of interesting and handy little type comparison tools and I was wondering if anyone else had seen/used them before. If so, what do y'all think about their usefulness?

https://sociotype.xyz/fc

https://sociotype.xyz/gc/SEI-SEE

I was looking for comparisons between SEI and SEE to help me type my girlfriend, and sorta stumbled onto this in my search

No, but that's pretty helpful. Clearly I had a crush on an SEE, my conflictor, and not an SEI. She did tend towards narcissism (under stimulus) like it says and I wasn't a fan at all of that. Almost everything in the SEE column fit her. That's pretty cool tool.

[AWellArmedCat]

No, but that's pretty helpful. Clearly I had a crush on an SEE, my conflictor, and not an SEI. She did tend towards narcissism (under stimulus) like it says and I wasn't a fan at all of that. Almost everything in the SEE column fit her. That's pretty cool tool.

Yay!! I'm so glad it was helpful to someone other than just me ^^

[CR400AF]

I just took a look at it. It seems that this website is based on Model G and G's interpretations of functions, which are very dubious. I doubt whether the author of this website understands Jung's definitions of functions.
Let's see the LII description on this website:

> Ni/Planning: Good distribution of time (in an extreme situation). Good internal clock


> Se/Patience: They endure for a long time without answering. Rapid exhaustion in a power environment. Inability to lead a rough and aggressive lifestyle

How could someone who will rapidly exhaust in a power environment be very good at distributing time in extreme situations? Ni is time-related but it's not that simple. I would describe my Ni as running in the background of my mind, keeping imaging the past and future. On the other hand, due to my Se-PoLR, I'm not very good at handling extreme situations. For instance, I'm not good at studying for an exam in the last few days.

> Si/Unpretentiousness: Make do with what they have. They can get by with absolutely nothing. Caring launches them


> Ne/Improvements: The emergence of new and new ideas in the implementation of any principle

The description on Ne is somewhat correct for me. However, I don't agree with what he says about LII's Si. Of course, caring launches us. But how do LIIs "get by with absolutely nothing"? As a Se-PoLR person, I am not very decisive and I often hesitate when purchasing goods. However, I do have some requirements for physical environments. For instance, I bought a new chair for my office cubicle to be more comfortable. I need to feel comfortable, so I can't stand harsh screens and horrible chairs. But I do agree that I'm frugal since I don't like to pay a premium for branding and appearance.

> Ti/Construction: Construction of schemes and structures (theories - LII, mechanisms - LSI)


> Fe/Composure: The need for pumping emotions. Sudden sociability (when something is needed)

Ti is my leading function instead of the creative function. Having 4D Ti, I can definitely construct structures. However, my creative function is Ne and I mostly produce novel ideas according to my structural understanding. Also, for Ti, I would like to emphasize that I judge the correctness of theories according to logic consistency instead of experiments.

> Te/Inventory: Control over the expenditure of other people's resources (including money) while deadening one's own. They make sure that everything is there (but everything disappears from them or is useless)


> Fi/Politeness: Politeness. Correctness. Compliance with good manners

I'm a polite person but I attribute it to my valued Fe. I don't like to control others and I don't care about how much money they spend on themselves.


I could also comment on a few other descriptions:

> Ni/Being late for ILE: The desire to freely manage their time and limit someone else's. It is important that others are not late

I don't find ILEs to limit others' time. It seems that this author understands Ni as solely time, which is very superficial.

> Te/Fatiguability for SEI/IEI: Rapid exhaustion from hard work.

Te is a rational/judgmental function. I don't find whether one is exhausted or not related to a rational function.

> Fi/Peacekeeping for IEI: Creating an emotional background in your circle.

Isn't that Fe?