Nobody's Perfect - Ne HA, what is it?

[loopyclouds]

What actually is Ne HA and how does it manifest? What do XSEs strive for in their want for 'perfection'? I understand the HAs of other types, but the Ne HA to me is so vague and undefined. How do they envision 'perfect'? Is it something they demand in all aspects of their life?

[Bethanyclaire]

They want to have something to believe in, so that they don’t doubt themselves too much

[The Reality Denialist]

This the best example I can find.

She seems to be ESE. Very found of self improvement but in the end she didn't really have a clue.

[Ikite iru]

With LSE I have noticed that they score very high on tests, but they mainly use rote memorization, so they don't actually have to understand what they learn. Can be disappointed if they "only" score 95%. Usually do very good in school. Have a very professional way of going through life, collecting as many qualification certificates as they can, even for mundane stuff. ESE I have noticed that they force themselves to do stuff even when it's very clear that they are not qualified for it. I think both types are not good at evaluating their skills.

[Squirrel]

Can be disappointed if they "only" score 95%.

Isn't this a desire for perfection and therefore Ni+ ?

[Ikite iru]

yes, Ni is perfectionistic, as it tries to consider every eventuality, but only within fields of interests. in other fields they are usually laid-back.

[BrainlessSquid]

Any function that is repressed expresses itself as the name implies: repressed.
In the case of Ne, it's giving heavier weight to the tested and proved. It can work for simple and ordinary things like prefering to watch a movie you know is good and you like it, and being resistant to being exposed to new forms of doing things.
Si is the axis of the known as opoosed to the unknown, which is the realm of Ni.
The functions always work together, so being less Ne oriented implies being more Si oriented, in the case of valued functions.

But there can be exceptions, but you notice this tendency in them.

I invited myself to the house of a likely dual and suggested we watched movies (because the girl is really comfort oriented), and I was fascinated by the fact that all the movies we watched (I asked her to choose all of them for my experiment) she had already seen, or in other words, she didn't experience anything new besides my presence. And she stated that she prefers to rewatch her favorite material over and over

So I hope you get the idea

[Sol]

weak valued. what is wanted but hard to provide yourself.
people wish and value higher support there. support in direct form

Ne - an imagination about objective.
to this relates not evident traits of a situation: as possibilities to move events to different directions, not evident traits of the seen.

For example. You have a task and have doubts how to make it good. Would good to get a help to see the situation from other point or wider, to get external ideas how to solve it better.
Ni type may help with alike too. As to see in a dream symbolic associations with the solution, to say you the seen and then you understand to what possibility that points. While Ne type will say you directly (objective info which anyone may understand) the solution and will think directly about the problem, but not through subjective symbolic representation. Result is the same, while ways are different.

To have strong Ne is also to have strong Ni, and such support is wanted too but in lesser direct form. Ne human will not talk much "I feel that everything will be good", - but you see the human relaxed and assured and may copy this state.
I noticed to feel lesser anxiety near IN*J people. N types have lesser detailed reality perception, but more whole and this means often more correct. They look as more calmed, in average.