Sex Abuse Scandal in the Catholic Church

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Well, most people don't want to rape kids and are horrified by that thought so it's probably not a natural instinct, unlike things like eating, sleeping, using the bathroom, regular sex with adults, etc.

That's probably a bad way of determining what isn't a natural instinct. That would make being Catholic also an unnatural instinct.

[Metamorph]

That's probably a bad way of determining what isn't a natural instinct. That would make being Catholic also an unnatural instinct.

That would only apply if being Catholic is an instinct. And know what, it might be an unnatural instinct. People in nature probably just do animism or something, or they don't care.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

That would only apply if being Catholic is an instinct. And know what, it might be an unnatural instinct. People in nature probably just do animism or something, or they don't care.

I doubt chimpanzees are horrified by rape. And many human religions and cultures consider it acceptable.

[lavos]

I doubt chimpanzees are horrified by rape. And many human religions and cultures consider it acceptable.

Chinpanzees don't rape offspring . They might kill them like males of other species kill offspring that is not their own, for the simple reason that they want to pass on their genes and not the ones of other males. Also, humans are not chimpanzees. Chimpanzees have not gone into space (just so you can understand the breadth of difference that there is between a chimpanzee and a human). Humans have instincts like animals, but normally their higher thinking ability trumps them, as do as well the constructs of society, since the human is a highly social entity. Now that said, I don't think it has never been a natural instinct in a human to engage in sex with a non-sexually mature human. That is a corruption, originally caused by something. In tribes and old cultures that were somewhat preserved from western culture contamination, it never happened. When a man lost control of their natural urges, they raped an adult woman, not a child. Same happens with animals. Everything has to follow some logic. Raping a child over an adult follows no logic (it doesn't provide any advantage compared to the case for raping a woman). The only ones I can think of are the following (if anyone is triggered by these, I apologize): 1.wanting to fuck up the child (for some reason) 2. Being unable to rape a woman, or it is simply easier to rape a child since they cannot defend themselves like a woman, and dissociate easier, effectively hiding the crime. Regardless, it requires a great seed of evil, and greatly germinated, to think in these terms and rape a child. It is a product of Evil, which is a human thing and not of instincts which are an animal thing. That's why animals don't do it.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Chinpanzees don't rape offspring . They might kill them like males of other species kill offspring that is not their own, for the simple reason that they want to pass on their genes and not the ones of other males. Also, humans are not chimpanzees. Chimpanzees have not gone into space (just so you can understand the breadth of difference that there is between a chimpanzee and a human). Humans have instincts like animals, but normally their higher thinking ability trumps them, as do as well the constructs of society, since the human is a highly social entity. Now that said, I don't think it has never been a natural instinct in a human to engage in sex with a non-sexually mature human. That is a corruption, originally caused by something. In tribes and old cultures that were somewhat preserved from western culture contamination, it never happened. When a man lost control of their natural urges, they raped an adult woman, not a child. Same happens with animals. Everything has to follow some logic. Raping a child over an adult follows no logic (it doesn't provide any advantage compared to the case for raping a woman). The only ones I can think of are the following (if anyone is triggered by these, I apologize): 1.wanting to fuck up the child (for some reason) 2. Being unable to rape a woman, or it is simply easier to rape a child since they cannot defend themselves like a woman, and dissociate easier, effectively hiding the crime. Regardless, it requires a great seed of evil, and greatly germinated, to think in these terms and rape a child. It is a product of Evil, which is a human thing and not of instincts which are an animal thing. That's why animals don't do it.

Didn't chimpanzees go into space before humans did?

[Socionics Is A Cult]

Chinpanzees don't rape offspring . They might kill them like males of other species kill offspring that is not their own, for the simple reason that they want to pass on their genes and not the ones of other males. Also, humans are not chimpanzees. Chimpanzees have not gone into space (just so you can understand the breadth of difference that there is between a chimpanzee and a human). Humans have instincts like animals, but normally their higher thinking ability trumps them, as do as well the constructs of society, since the human is a highly social entity. Now that said, I don't think it has never been a natural instinct in a human to engage in sex with a non-sexually mature human. That is a corruption, originally caused by something. In tribes and old cultures that were somewhat preserved from western culture contamination, it never happened. When a man lost control of their natural urges, they raped an adult woman, not a child. Same happens with animals. Everything has to follow some logic. Raping a child over an adult follows no logic (it doesn't provide any advantage compared to the case for raping a woman). The only ones I can think of are the following (if anyone is triggered by these, I apologize): 1.wanting to fuck up the child (for some reason) 2. Being unable to rape a woman, or it is simply easier to rape a child since they cannot defend themselves like a woman, and dissociate easier, effectively hiding the crime. Regardless, it requires a great seed of evil, and greatly germinated, to think in these terms and rape a child. It is a product of Evil, which is a human thing and not of instincts which are an animal thing. That's why animals don't do it.

Using "natural instinct" as you do here is circular. If it happens, you'll say it's unnatural. If instincts exist, by definition, they're "natural", even if they are culturally unacceptable, even if they are harmful to an organism or a gene's long-tern prospects.

[DogOfDanger]

Using "natural instinct" as you do here is circular. If it happens, you'll say it's unnatural. If instincts exist, by definition, they're "natural", even if they are culturally unacceptable, even if they are harmful to an organism or a gene's long-tern prospects.

It isn't circular because it reduces to what does or does not have survival-reproductive value...
Nope, try again.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

It isn't circular because it reduces to what does or does not have survival-reproductive value...
Nope, try again.

You're literally giving "Nature" a purpose, rather than simply describing what is.

[Socionics Is A Cult]

I doubt chimpanzees are horrified by rape. And many human religions and cultures consider it acceptable.

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[Socionics Is A Cult]

That would only apply if being Catholic is an instinct. And know what, it might be an unnatural instinct. People in nature probably just do animism or something, or they don't care.

Why do you think that being celibate is "not unnatural"?