Type Me Before Gulenko!

[hellohellohello]

I've recently taken part in Gulenko's 2-part Socionics Diagnostics session. I've included both of the videos below. His assistant said that he will be getting back to me on Monday, but I'm curious if anyone has any guesses about my type before then.

[Adam Strange]

I've recently taken part in Gulenko's 2-part Socionics Diagnostics session. I've included both of the videos below. His assistant said that he will be getting back to me on Monday, but I'm curious if anyone has any guesses about my type before then.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PT8...w?usp=drivesdk

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1mI4...w?usp=drivesdk

LIE-Te in nine seconds, and only that long to be absolutely sure.

Gulenko only types people as LSI or EIE, so hang on to your hat.

[hellohellohello]

LIE-Te in nine seconds, and only that long to be absolutely sure.

Gulenko only types people as LSI or EIE, so hang on to your hat.

I've been typed as EII by someone who is a self-proclaimed "expert". Might only take you 2 or 3 guesses as to who that may be.

[Adam Strange]

I've been typed as EII by someone who is a self-proclaimed "expert". Might only take you 2 or 3 guesses as to who that may be.

I watched your entire first video. There's nothing about you that isn't LIE-Te.

Welcome to the Life.

[chriscorey]

I guess ILI-Te or LIE-Ni

[Vex]

Idk who typed you EII, I can take a few guesses who but I'm not going to drop any names, because I think that typing is full of crap. Anyways, I think G is looking for dynamic vs static, contact vs distance, and how stable your nervous system is. Hope you enjoy the process and result in any case

[hellohellohello]

Idk who typed you EII, I can take a few guesses who but I'm not going to drop any names, because I think that typing is full of crap. Anyways, I think G is looking for dynamic vs static, contact vs distance, and how stable your nervous system is. Hope you enjoy the process and result in any case

I think most people here could guess. That's why I'm not dropping a name directly either... lol

[The Reality Denialist]

 

Rational type.
Demeanor: stable, composed = Ij

Describes thing through relatedness. Gets stuck on people's problems over his own. This even shows up in his work
Power sensing for purpose, not active, release, not weak.
Fascinated to see developments (people, work).
Anxiety over future detectable (events, dreams etc).
Does not really care about drawing attention to himself. Stoic. Fe is kept under wraps.
Needs help in terms of logical action (moving etc).
Hands on hobbies outside (it seems good match for LIE). Friends.
Probably describes supervision friendship with SLE.


ESI

EDIT

So Rotkiv suggested SEE-H

And I think it might fit better.

[hellohellohello]

 

Rational type.
Demeanor: stable, composed = Ij

Describes thing through relatedness. Gets stuck on people's problems over his own. This even shows up in his work
Power sensing for purpose, not active, release, not weak.
Fascinated to see developments (people, work).
Anxiety over future detectable (events, dreams etc).
Does not really care about drawing attention to himself.
Needs help in terms of logical action (moving etc).
Hands on hobbies outside (it seems good match for LIE). Friends.
Probably describes supervision friendship with SLE.


ESI

I highly doubt the friend I was mentioning is my supervisor. We've been MUCH too close, almost since we met back 14-15 years ago, at times almost to the point of inseparability.

The things you mention are some of the reasons why I've never been able to figure out my type, as I think there are a lot of contradictions.

- I don't get stuck on people's problems. I enjoy helping people with their own problems versus focusing on myself. I don't think that's an R thing, in fact, despite my temperament, I think it's an E thing, maybe just a general Extroverted thing.
- I hardly ever get anxiety, as I know 99% of the time what is coming and I take that time to best prepare for those events. I've never been considered as "short-sighted".

For reference, I've self-typed as either IEI/EIE, and sometimes ILI. I've never truly thought I was Gamma though. If I am then I am not a stereotypical Gamma. In fact, my two closest friends (one of which being who I talked about) are more than likely SLE and LSI, and they've always pestered me about not acting logically or having very little connection to reality.

I think I can easily put up a front, and that's what confuses others AND me about my typing.

[RBRS]

I highly doubt the friend I was mentioning is my supervisor. We've been MUCH too close, almost since we met back 14-15 years ago, at times almost to the point of inseparability.

The things you mention are some of the reasons why I've never been able to figure out my type, as I think there are a lot of contradictions.

- I don't get stuck on people's problems. I enjoy helping people with their own problems versus focusing on myself. I don't think that's an R thing, in fact, despite my temperament, I think it's an E thing, maybe just a general Extroverted thing.
- I hardly ever get anxiety, as I know 99% of the time what is coming and I take that time to best prepare for those events. I've never been considered as "short-sighted".

For reference, I've self-typed as either IEI/EIE, and sometimes ILI. I've never truly thought I was Gamma though. If I am then I am not a stereotypical Gamma. In fact, my two closest friends (one of which being who I talked about) are more than likely SLE and LSI, and they've always pestered me about not acting logically or having very little connection to reality.

I think I can easily put up a front, and that's what confuses others AND me about my typing.

Is Duschia your friend right? It would be weird as you're trying out Gulenko

[hellohellohello]

Is Duschia your friend right? It would be weird as you're trying out Gulenko

Lol I don't know who that is. I'm pretty certain my friend has absolutely no idea about Socionics.

[RBRS]

Lol I don't know who that is. I'm pretty certain my friend has absolutely no idea about Socionics.

No problem. Just remembered she typed one close friend as EII so I thought it was you.

For Gulenko, looking at the left is indicative of irrationality, to the right of rationality, upwards extraversion and downwards introversion. Although I have to say your general nonverbal gives the impression of a rational type.

[The Reality Denialist]

- I don't get stuck on people's problems. I enjoy helping people with their own problems versus focusing on myself. I don't think that's an R thing, in fact, despite my temperament, I think it's an E thing, maybe just a general Extroverted thing.
- I hardly ever get anxiety, as I know 99% of the time what is coming and I take that time to best prepare for those events. I've never been considered as "short-sighted".

I kind of beg to differ on first because relations are relations.

Number 2. I get it but it is very far from the devil may care attitude which comes with 4D Ne (the absence of anxiety because I'll figure out how to run the business even if half of my body is chopped off).

But we will see alternative would be rational Te type.

[Sol]

I've self-typed as either IEI/EIE, and sometimes ILI

On the video there you look as low emotional. Much of the time you avoid to look to camera and so nonverbal is harder be seen, hence to understand the type. Mostly you associated with beta T.
If you took psycheactive substance before making that video, then that could influence on nonverbal expression. A quantity of people on psychology forums use meds, drugs, overuse ethanol.

Among F I'd suspect EIE. IEI seems as too doubtful by nonverbal.
Your recent behavior on the forum reminded F. But there you may play or be under a substance.
In this theme your talking is closer to J.

If you'll want opinions about your type and will place a video, - this should be in clean mind state (min 24h).

[hellohellohello]

On the video there you look as low emotional. Much of the time you avoid to look to camera and so nonverbal is harder be seen, hence to understand the type. Mostly you associated with beta T.
If you took psycheactive substance before making that video, then that could influence on nonverbal expression. A quantity of people on psychology forums use meds, drugs, overuse ethanol.

Among F I'd suspect EIE. IEI seems as too doubtful by nonverbal.
Your recent behavior on the forum reminded F. But there you may play or be under a substance.
In this theme your talking is closer to J.

If you'll want opinions about your type and will place a video, - this should be in clean mind state (min 24h).

Already proven IEI time and time again by Jung's writings, Ausra's writings, etc.

Not a Rational type. Watching my videos back, it's easy to see Irrational and Intuition is leading as any sort of Ethics doesn't present itself readily.

I could also prove this by transferring my consciousness to you as I tend to only react via impressions and not out of necessity (Irrational > Rational) but as we know we don't have the technology for that... yet

You would also need to make a case for:

1) Ne Demonstrative
2) Si Vulnerable

Neither of which are present. If you're picking up on any sort of Ti it's because it's Mobilizing and therefore more present than it would be if it were my Suggestive.

I haven't heard from anyone (besides Gulenko, and he doesn't even make a case for it) that they see Se. If they do it's because they're seeing Ti and pairing that with Se because Ne is not present (Ignoring).

Even getting to know me IRL, IEI would be extremely apparent.

Looking away from the camera - Introversion > Extraversion. Can't be shyness as if I was shy I wouldn't have made the video in the first place, or be willing to make another one.

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

LIE Te

[Ikite iru]

Watched the first video

IEI

Do you mean jack from WSS?

[Sol]

IR may help to understand own type. Much of IR influence goes from intuitive impressions from nonverbal behavior as facial mimics.

EIE: 1 , 2

LSI: 1 , 2

SLE: 1 , 2

IEI: 1 , 2

Better IR are more comfortable. More differing by functional strenght types are more intriguing. To evaluate is important generalized image of people of same type, - this reduced nontypes factors.
There is a hypothesis based on Jung ideas and some observations that people with some of disorders (homosexualism, narcissism) may have differing perception of IR (more contradicting). In other cases IR should manifest as expected by theory, even from videos - if you'll tune on personality of those people. Problems may stay with nontypes influences and wrongly supposed types of examples (I try to reduce such chances, but they happen).
It's better evaluate IR effects during irl informal communicating.
If have >10 of good irl known people who have behavior and IR effects with some of your types as fiting good to theory - it's good basis to trust that type as yours. As it's low possibly to get such situation accidentally. Types of people you may guess logically, by tests, intuitivelly from nonverbal. It's how I checked own type. Jung's book and Filatova's in English - is good theory to start this checking.

You posted much of texts. So you seem interested and wish to understand. You mainly need _practice_ which will allow you to notice about what you read, - basic theory. If you'll do positively the described checking of own type - then you'll get minimum level of Socionics. At now you more play by theory, which is badly described and partly wrong. You should trust to theory basics only, - Jung's definitions (dichotomies), IR basics, partly interpretations of e/i sides of functions.

Mb this will help.

[hellohellohello]

IR may help to understand own type. Much of IR influence goes from intuitive impressions from nonverbal behavior as facial mimics.

EIE: 1 , 2

LSI: 1 , 2

SLE: 1 , 2

IEI: 1 , 2

Better IR are more comfortable. More differing by functional strenght types are more intriguing. To evaluate is important generalized image of people of same type, - this reduced nontypes factors.
There is a hypothesis based on Jung ideas and some observations that people with some of disorders (homosexualism, narcissism) may have differing perception of IR (more contradicting). In other cases IR should manifest as expected by theory, even from videos - if you'll tune on personality of those people. Problems may stay with nontypes influences and wrongly supposed types of examples (I try to reduce such chances, but they happen).
It's better evaluate IR effects during irl informal communicating.
If have >10 of good irl known people who have behavior and IR effects with some of your types as fiting good to theory - it's good basis to trust that type as yours. As it's low possibly to get such situation accidentally. Types of people you may guess logically, by tests, intuitivelly from nonverbal. It's how I checked own type. Jung's book and Filatova's in English - is good theory to start this checking.

You posted much of texts. So you seem interested and wish to understand. You mainly need _practice_ which will allow you to notice about what you read, - basic theory. If you'll do positively the described checking of own type - then you'll get minimum level of Socionics. At now you more play by theory, which is badly described and partly wrong. You should trust to theory basics only, - Jung's definitions (dichotomies), IR basics, partly interpretations of e/i sides of functions.

Mb this will help.

"You posted much of texts." Are you calling Jung on Ausra on their shit even though they're the ones who wrote this? (Aka TEXT?)

[RBRS]

The popular guy drops his typing then everyone follows like little ducks. Not that I have anything against that typing but holy fuck people have too few own ideas.

My guess is you're a logical type, focus on matters related to socio Logics and perceivable lack of proficiency in the ethics realm, Gulenko might type you LSI or ILI, although he can still surprise you with an extraverted typing due to your eye movements (when remembering or coming up with something you look upwards, if your video is not "reversed" it usually goes to upper right corner, which Gulenko tends to interpret as an EJ thing).

If he types you as ethical, it will probably be 4D-Fi.

[Adam Strange]

The popular guy drops his typing then everyone follows like little ducks. Not that I have anything against that typing but holy fuck people have too few own ideas.

Logical type, Gulenko will probably type you LSI or ILI btw

Let me be the first to say that my typing methods are "Ready Fire Aim", and my initial guesses often turn out to be wrong.

For example, I think that these are bricks, but they might turn out to be IEIs. https://imgur.com/a/Wbp5Ms5

Only time will tell.

[RBRS]

Let me be the first to say that my typing methods are "Ready Fire Aim", and my initial guesses often turn out to be wrong.

For example, I think that these are bricks, but they might turn out to be IEIs. https://imgur.com/a/Wbp5Ms5

Only time will tell.

I have nothing against your typing of him, in fact I consider it plausible if not good (actually goes in line with what I'm guessing) I was talking about the other people lol

[Adam Strange]

I have nothing against your typing of him, in fact I consider it plausible if not good (actually goes in line with what I'm guessing) I was talking about the other people lol

Sometimes, a cigar is just a cigar.

I will admit, though, that I like to see other viewpoints expressed.

I never really realized before I encountered Socionics how certain I can appear to be about some subjects. I think this is a feature of LIEs which is built for convincing investors that some crazy scheme is going to make them rich.

But in truth, no matter how certain I might appear, I always have some doubts about my conclusions. This is why, I think, I need the often doubting ESIs around to fact-check me.

[chriscorey]

I have nothing against your typing of him, in fact I consider it plausible if not good (actually goes in line with what I'm guessing) I was talking about the other people lol

should I have given a false guess because mine was similar to Adam's? And Adam and I do not always agree.

okay, it's not a brick.. it's a cloud? wtf?

[RBRS]

should I have given a false guess because mine was similar to Adam's? And Adam and I do not always agree.

okay, it's not a brick.. it's a cloud? wtf?

Should I rather deny that everytime a popular figure like him says a sentence a significant quantity of forumites go in the same direction, possibly because of popularity? That's not bad per se and good for him, but the pattern is clear.

[Adam Strange]

should I have given a false guess because mine was similar to Adam's? And Adam and I do not always agree.

okay, it's not a brick.. it's a cloud? wtf?

Yeah, it's mostly empty space, according to physicists. So you could make an excellent argument for it being a cloud.

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

I have nothing against your typing of him, in fact I consider it plausible if not good (actually goes in line with what I'm guessing) I was talking about the other people lol

u are selectively ignoring information
what about when ive said a typing first then a popular guy has the same idea
this guy's body language is LIE. i know a LIE, the way he talks and flicks his eyelids, it sounds stupid in words or maybe im just strugglign too much to explain what im observing

its clear the resemblance, LIE - Te bottom right.
im saying Te bc his eyes seem more active, but im not sure about it.

[RBRS]

u are selectively ignoring information
what about when ive said a typing first then a popular guy has the same idea
this guy's body language is LIE. i know a LIE, the way he talks and flicks his eyelids, it sounds stupid in words or maybe im just strugglign too much to explain what im observing

its clear the resemblance, LIE - Te bottom right.
im saying Te bc his eyes seem more active, but im not sure about it.

>What about when I said a typing and a popular guy said the same afterwards?

Where's the connection here? Two separate cases

>Sounds stupid

It effectively sounds dumb but don't worry, I've seen cheaper typings, and this one can in fact ring true. The VI correlation is correct.

[RBRS]

Watched your whole videos, analyzed non-verbal cues, and applied the semantics method alongside temperament installation, and I have the absolute, definitive response; You're an IENSTFjp, one of the rarest personality types.

[Aster]

I have nothing against your typing of him, in fact I consider it plausible if not good (actually goes in line with what I'm guessing) I was talking about the other people lol

We can’t all be popular and likable like Adam, Mr. TIM you dislike

it is what it is

[RBRS]

We can’t all be popular and likable like Adam, Mr. TIM you dislike

it is what it is

Wtf

[hellohellohello]

The popular guy drops his typing then everyone follows like little ducks. Not that I have anything against that typing but holy fuck people have too few own ideas.

My guess is you're a logical type, focus on matters related to socio Logics and perceivable lack of proficiency in the ethics realm, Gulenko might type you LSI or ILI, although he can still surprise you with an extraverted typing due to your eye movements (when remembering or coming up with something you look upwards, if your video is not "reversed" it usually goes to upper right corner, which Gulenko tends to interpret as an EJ thing).

If he types you as ethical, it will probably be 4D-Fi.

I believe the video is reversed. My eyes typically go up/left when I'm thinking.

[Adam Strange]

I believe the video is reversed. My eyes typically go up/left when I'm thinking.

"Eyes left" look to the past. " Eyes right" look to the future.

[Aster]

Ohhh this is exciting! like a game or something

ok…first impressions…sorry, but your shirt instantly thinking Ni/Se here
and then I thought mayyybeee LSI, but something about it made me pause. Didn’t seem quite right.

so then I started thinking gamma, and ILI.

And this was 45 seconds in lol …

so now I wait to see how I did

[Ave]

I don't know what your type is, OP, but I am curious what G will say.

[Ave]

Also, I tend to notice Adam going in the direction of others typings, and I hadn't thought about it going the other way around (though I guess these things can go both ways). But I don't want to make this thread about Adam, it isn't particularly helpful.

[chriscorey]

@OP I watched your videos and guessed ILI-Te

[Aster]

Imo, I think it’s more true that people are more likely to follow the first typings made in a thread and isn’t exactly just dependent on the person, although it can influence (like past typings made, general social opinion…etc.)

[The Reality Denialist]

I want to know what you guys are smoking?

[nifl]

perhaps ILI