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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    A casual glance at the kinds of people who've thought deeply and seriously about morality should show that most of them have been religious. It's not a coincidence that as the world has become less religious, traditional values have been eroded in favor of ones that are good for the wealthy ("the market"). If people don't have a unifying banner, they have nowhere to rally, and the temptation of money is powerful.
    Do you remember when I told you that you came across as socially conservative and you denied it? This could be the reason.

    Are you a Christian? I have to ask. I don't want to just assume.

    I'm not interested in arguing in any case, I left my birth religion a long time ago. I doubt we would convince each other of anything on this issue without asking the other to renounce their beliefs.

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    "Forward" is always relative to where you face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    Do you remember when I told you that you came across as socially conservative and you denied it? This could be the reason.

    Are you a Christian? I have to ask. I don't want to just assume.
    No, I'm not religious. I'm not a conservative either, but that doesn't mean I like the direction the wind is blowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    No, I'm not religious. I'm not a conservative either, but that doesn't mean I like the direction the wind is blowing.
    I was so sure you had at least Christian upbringing. I guess I assumed wrong.

    I mean you may not consider yourself a conservative but you can't deny that you hold many views that are largely consistent with core conservative values, can you? At least socially. I have known you for a few years now and I would say that is a fair characterization. Again, I could be the only one reading your wrong, so forgive my insolence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I mean you may not consider yourself a conservative but you can't deny that you hold many views that are largely consistent with core conservative values, can you? At least socially.
    From the few posts I have read, he comes across to me as someone who would have been a member of the International Workingmen's Association.

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    From the few posts I have read, he comes across to me as someone who would have been a member of the International Workingmen's Association.
    I didn't mean to ignore you btw, I just wasn't sure how to take your post. Is it a joke or are you serious? In any case I don't get it lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan View Post
    I didn't mean to ignore you btw, I just wasn't sure how to take your post. Is it a joke or are you serious? In any case I don't get it lol.
    If my memory serves me correctly I recall a post regarding economics in which @FreelancePoliceman understanding struck me as someone who has engaged with Karl Marx's critique of political economy.

    Edit: Tagged wrong person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by None View Post
    If my memory serves me correctly I recall a post regarding economics in which @FreelancePoliceman understanding struck me as someone who has engaged with Karl Marx's critique of political economy.

    Edit: Tagged wrong person.
    I mean he did direct me towards Eugene Debs, one of the founding members of the Industrial Workers of the World, the last time I questioned him, so it's just my poor memory and lack of follow through. I didn't care to read on him.

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