Straight men turning for companionship to gay men b/c women this era suck

[Fluffy Princess Unicorn]

Women are supposed to be the feminine gender and are supposedly built/hard-wired to support and give emotional companionship to men. The other day I needed a hug so I went on an IRC channel, and none of the women there gave me a hug, only two gay men offered to give me the hug (and one gave me). Women have really become crap in this era. People are crap, but women have really really lost a lot value-wise. What do you think of this phenomenon

The thing is, the men are crap too, so I personally have no problem with women who want to criticize the men of this age. But being as objetive as I can, "women" has become crappier than "men", from what I observe around me. They have really really lost a lot of positive qualities, the majority, they're nowhere to be found. This is reality, without any misoginia, and this is what I want people to discuss about.


Tbh, I am not happy with this misoginia I have developed (I used to like women) I want to get rid of it, and since I'm a magic psychologist (and auto-magic psychologist too) what my intuition has brought me to do, is this; criticize women. Hopefully it serves as a therapeutic avenue. The truth is that the poor beings, most of them, have issues, because covert abuse is rampant in our society. So they're to be pitied, more than hated.


I'll get over it.

Men: objectifying women and acting entitled to their bodies all around the world, generation after generation; so heavily that in Africa there is a problem with mothers ironing daughters' breasts, and so prominently that it is still normalized in media all around the world, in present day societies

Women: preyed upon (used via deceit) for sex, pressured into having it, and so forth, so much throughout their lives (especially targeted if considered to be attractive) that they go around guarded, defenses up, untrusting of mens' motives when it comes to physical contact, etc.

Incels: "women have lost their value, and I am a misogynist because a few of them didn't hug me when I was sad."

Have you said some douchey things around them due to being prejudiced against females? I mean, it is your pattern to play the victim card unjustly. Hell, you're even playing the victim card about the presence of your misogyny. Examine your own language, speech patterns: there's no responsibility taken, you consistently use phrasing that distances you from accountability; you're evidently not searching for ways to change your misogyny, in spite of saying you don't want to be one (if you were, this thread would say something more along the lines of "how do I stop seeing things this way?"); this thread's original post isn't searching for ways to stop being one, but rather, it inquires for whatever is going to provide you with more confirmation bias and validation of your toxic views of women (paraphrased OP: "why are my sexist views valid/accurate?"); it postulates based on traditional, but sexist, feminine roles ("built to support men and be companions for them" and according to you, if women don't do that, they're "bad"); you make passive-aggressive comments toward anyone who offers a little insight into where or how you're going wrong, aka how you are forming these views.

If you're going to be a dick, at least be honest about it and don't claim you're a victim to your own perspectives; that's ridiculous, given that your actions obviously paint a different picture. The statement that you don't want to be a misogynist is merely revelatory of your cognitive dissonance. You create that distance from your own beliefs so that you don't have to feel responsible, but just so you know, everyone else around you sees through it and knows you're accountable anyway. You're only fooling your own self.

[VewyScawwyNawcissist]

Incels: "women have lost their value, and I am a misogynist because a few of them didn't hug me when I was sad."
you're evidently not searching for ways to change your misogyny, in spite of saying you don't want to be one (if you were, this thread would say something more along the lines of "how do I stop seeing things this way?"); this thread's original post isn't searching for ways to stop being one, but rather, it inquires for whatever is going to provide you with more confirmation bias and validation of your toxic views of women (paraphrased OP: "why are my sexist views valid/accurate?"); it postulates based on traditional, but sexist, feminine roles ("built to support men and be companions for them" and according to you, if women don't do that, they're "bad"); you make passive-aggressive comments toward anyone who offers a little insight into where or how you're going wrong, aka how you are forming these views.

If you're going to be a dick, at least be honest about it and don't claim you're a victim to your own perspectives; that's ridiculous, given that your actions obviously paint a different picture. The statement that you don't want to be a misogynist is merely revelatory of your cognitive dissonance. You create that distance from your own beliefs so that you don't have to feel responsible, but just so you know, everyone else around you sees through it and knows you're accountable anyway. You're only fooling your own self.

im not tagging u bc i what i may be saying could be irrelevant depending on what u meant exactly, + missing each other.
ive been oscillating to what im supposed to do since forever. do i trigger someone by saying what i would or let things get worse by not doing it?
accountability. now i am taking the opposite stance, of a similar conversation we had, it was about you saying people need time to understand, and me that there isnt always time, as well as other factors. people get stuck in their cognitive limitations, of course u should have a growth mindset, but at the same time u cant blame/hold accountable for everthing in their issues, this doesnt mean just every issue, but the issues within the issue that are interrelated.
his expression of the thread may show he is searching for validation, but that can also mean understanding and being understood. the decision to make the thread could be to seek understanding in the first place. this doesnt mean he would be capable of expressing his issues the most sensible way.

there are issues with people on a fundamental level thats not understanding or caring enough for each other, which is the same thing, which is now lets say you reducing his arguement to simply a few women not hugging him when he was sad. its not just a few, its none, and the issue is way broader than that. there should be accountability on men for being low, but also on women. cognitive dissonace, yes, but better be dissonant, because thats naturally and implicitly the process of integration and change. any attempt at changing, thinking about, expressing perspectives can a be seen as being two faced/manipulative. why doesnt he want to feel responsible? bc he's struggling a lot with understanding it and controlling it. understanding and control is not something u can force, but have to carefully account for by all factors, that are externally pushing him there, thats not fair to be blamed for.
to be coninued

[roger557]

Men: objectifying women and acting entitled to their bodies all around the world, generation after generation; so heavily that in Africa there is a problem with mothers ironing daughters' breasts, and so prominently that it is still normalized in media all around the world, in present day societies

Women: preyed upon (used via deceit) for sex, pressured into having it, and so forth, so much throughout their lives (especially targeted if considered to be attractive) that they go around guarded, defenses up, untrusting of mens' motives when it comes to physical contact, etc.

Incels: "women have lost their value, and I am a misogynist because a few of them didn't hug me when I was sad."

Have you said some douchey things around them due to being prejudiced against females? I mean, it is your pattern to play the victim card unjustly. Hell, you're even playing the victim card about the presence of your misogyny. Examine your own language, speech patterns: there's no responsibility taken, you consistently use phrasing that distances you from accountability; you're evidently not searching for ways to change your misogyny, in spite of saying you don't want to be one (if you were, this thread would say something more along the lines of "how do I stop seeing things this way?"); this thread's original post isn't searching for ways to stop being one, but rather, it inquires for whatever is going to provide you with more confirmation bias and validation of your toxic views of women (paraphrased OP: "why are my sexist views valid/accurate?"); it postulates based on traditional, but sexist, feminine roles ("built to support men and be companions for them" and according to you, if women don't do that, they're "bad"); you make passive-aggressive comments toward anyone who offers a little insight into where or how you're going wrong, aka how you are forming these views.

If you're going to be a dick, at least be honest about it and don't claim you're a victim to your own perspectives; that's ridiculous, given that your actions obviously paint a different picture. The statement that you don't want to be a misogynist is merely revelatory of your cognitive dissonance. You create that distance from your own beliefs so that you don't have to feel responsible, but just so you know, everyone else around you sees through it and knows you're accountable anyway. You're only fooling your own self.

Your perception and judgment is very off point. Take a look at this thread and the very intelligent responses it's getting, and try to learn something.

[Fluffy Princess Unicorn]

Your perception and judgment is very off point. Take a look at this thread and the very intelligent responses it's getting, and try to learn something.

No, it's not off — but of course you would think/say that. Most people don't want to admit to their cognitive dissonances, that's why they're even there in the first place.