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    In real life, I interact with people without time to adequately analyze my contributions to the conversations.

    Online/texting makes available the preference to accurately interact with others.

    Socially speaking, real-life is very much rapid fire while online/texting is more mentally isolative

    How do you all differ between real life vs texting?

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    I talk in a very similar way via text vs real-life interactions. I'm not usually a very loud person though, people may talk over me. I have a problem interrupting too though. I can stare off and look a little vacant in conversations.
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    OOOOh this is interesting!

    Online I appear way more extroverted and “forward”. I just shoot the shit. This is probably the only place I am active on “social media” wise. Others I am a ghost town. Usually it starts with me being over polite and slow to engage and then full on swinging Texting I am pretty rapid too and I use a lot of emoji’s.

    I respond similar but I am much more shy and “laid back” irl. I go off an do my own thing a lot more and just “nope” out of social situations. I’m much more quiet and polite in that regard. I am friendly just..I do think I come across more closed off. It depends on the day, situation, and mood. You can usually find me with earbuds in walking somewhere by myself and vibing. I only really turn on the Fe when I need to.

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    In real life, I'm actually a personality simulator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    OOOOh this is interesting!

    Online I appear way more extroverted and “forward”. I just shoot the shit. This is probably the only place I am active on “social media” wise. Others I am a ghost town. Usually it starts with me being over polite and slow to engage and then full on swinging Texting I am pretty rapid too and I use a lot of emoji’s.

    I respond similar but I am much more shy and “laid back” irl. I go off an do my own thing a lot more and just “nope” out of social situations. I’m much more quiet and polite in that regard. I am friendly just..I do think I come across more closed off. It depends on the day, situation, and mood. You can usually find me with earbuds in walking somewhere by myself and vibing. I only really turn on the Fe when I need to.
    Interesting.

    This might speak to how the lead function is "you" while the creative is a tool that isn't as psychologically automatic.

    Using the lead is effortless but my creative is best utilized as a true secondary mental option

    Its crazy cause my creative function has been unusually shit irl.

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    I'm quieter in real life. Here I blab about whatever cuz I'm bored.

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    I use this forum as a means to air thoughts I typically wouldn't. I also engage in conversation a bit more.

    Edit: I think IRL I tend to make flat statements more; online I tend to ask questions more.
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    i am more inclined to talk shit irl and dont rant like this. the point of the rants is to have it recorded somewhere. what i type what i think what i say and how i say it are all different and sometimes the same depending, sometimes its way easier for me to communicate IRL, sometimes i can only have enough time to figure out what to say online. expression IRL would add a lot of context changing how what i say is perceived. there are a lot of problems that would be met too outside where i wouldnt react like most ppl so i would seem more pleasant in those regards. my physical presence is off putting. people on edge.
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    There is virtually no difference between how I talk online and in real life, excluding how online I usually edit what I say a bit more so that it's more clear.

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    Less emotive than in text. In text messaging, or on this web forum, I compulsively use emoticons. Roughly equal rudeness, maybe toned back online I'd say, since there are mods everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Freedom View Post
    Less emotive than in text. In text messaging, or on this web forum, I compulsively use emoticons. Roughly equal rudeness, maybe toned back online I'd say, since there are mods everywhere.
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    I'm more direct in some ways here. But I wasn't as direct when I first joined this forum either so I think that has to do with the fact that I'm used to people here now. I can also articulate myself better cause I have more time to think about what I want to say. I zone out of conversations a lot more in person, whereas I seem to pay attention more online. I will rant in person too but it has to be with specific people meanwhile I'll do it where a lot of people can see on here.

    Other than that I'm pretty much the same person.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    Less rude in here?!? THANK GOD I am Mod
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    It's a different mode of communication, so I'm tempted to say in every way possible, but I'm sure there are some commonalities.

    I tend to use my online life to refine my real life by saying things I normally wouldn't to see if they work, though I do this maybe even more in real life

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    In real life, I'm actually a personality simulator.
    Wow this is funny, you may were masks after guises to trick or personify virtues and ranges of the animal to alien overdrive to shift frequencies or summon a sea monster.
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    I act in professional settings very dry and without animation, but if people are going through web after fairytale of mania and magic, I suddenly leap from point to topic with flair and extremities as the puzzle cube dresses up the hanger.

    Online, I have more freedom yet, because people won't be there to be openly disgusted or in rebellion over my frenzy and feather, so the liberty is awe inspiring.

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    Have to clarify more online, because you're putting out statements most of the time in these threads, rather than having a back and forth conversation... so it has to be clear what I mean, straight away....


    I'm also more likely to join in a conversation/give input irl.... I can't always be bothered to type stuff out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Freedom View Post
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    In written

    -More structure, as the format allows for premeditation and further corrections

    In real life

    -Long rants about topics of interest, far more politically incorrect and a lot of times vehement on these

    -Less precaution with the aforementioned political correctness and social decorum, more often than not making people raise eyebrows

    -Family members have repeatedly told me that my speech lacks variations in intonations and can be too fast at times, which makes people lose interest or have headaches I'm told

    -Far more harsh, somewhat grotesque, for example;
    +That person should be hanged upside down suspended by a bladed hook up his ass to his stomach.
    +That teacher doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about as he doesn't even care, he doesn't have the right to breathe and be alive

    -If I don’t care about the topic I don't even care to speak, but if I like the topic I might dominate the conversation, only talking myself non-stop.

    -With people who are not intimate I either don’t speak or I'm dry and correct because of the lack of trust I have in the other person.

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    im more outspoken online

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    Quote Originally Posted by MissDucki View Post
    No.
    Yeah, good, keep it up for appearances

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    In real life I'm much more of a joker when hanging out with my friends. I love making subtle innuendos and the best ones are when people don't even notice I made a joke right away and realize a few moments later. When I'm comfortable I'm pretty flirty and mercurial, but only in a very light surface-level kind of way; I get quite skittish when someone seriously flirts with me back, as I don't really mean anything by it. I also find it very easy to suddenly turn on Ti and become Spock when someone asks me a serious question. I feel my in-person interactions are really defined by that back and forth between frivolous Fe shenanigans and stiff overdone Ti. I think because my Ti is only 2D I end up using far too many words and answering simple questions incredibly long-windedly because I desperately want to be 100% accurate and to not be misunderstood when being serious. There is a very specific way that I want to "come across" to people, and I do everything I can to make sure that that is exactly how I am coming across. I think if you were to look at a transcript of my real-life dialogue when someone asks me what I think about something political or philosophical you'd find that my speech was so full of superfluous qualifiers like "not necessarily," "tends to," "could be considered by some to be," etc, that it would seem like I really wasn't saying anything at all. In the end the other person pretty much always ends up thinking I agree with them when I in fact don't agree with them in the slightest. I just phrase disagreement in a way that sounds like agreement, and only 3D or 4D Ti users seem to ever pick up on this.

    If I'm in a less comfortable situation then I think I tend to give off a sort of detached boho vibe. It's harder for me to say what sort of vibe I give people, but people always seem very comfortable approaching me no matter what and always say I look friendly and easy to talk to, so apparently I give off some sort of passive warmth or softness.

    I'm not sure exactly how I come across to people online. Two people on this forum thought I was a troll for some reason and that really confused me, so I have no idea anymore lol
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    In real life: I'm much more quiet. Not very emotive. Don't reveal my thoughts. Simultaneously more polite and more hostile. Come across as much more stern and serious.

    I find deep conversations far more satisfying through text rather than in person, as you just don't get enough time to think before having to respond. Imagine talking to someone who just sits there for 30 seconds thinking every time you say something, would be so goddamn uncomfortable. With text, I frequently take no less than that time to respond whereas in person, I try to respond as rapidly as I can, which leads to unsatisfying communication.
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    More structured. More positive in texts. Irl I’m a mess and more scattered lol, pretty dorky and gloomy I guess
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    I'm way more structured in text than face to face conversation, because without all the context of face to face communication and not having the other person pick up on ambiguities I have to be that way in order to make sense to people. I don't consider this a part that is 'outside myself' from real life. There is no difference, just different muscles exercised in the same body. I wouldn't mind people I know in real life reading anything I write here. If it's not information I want to have public, I will simply not share it.
    In chat I tend to be a bit more... whatever. But even that is different in some ways from chatting face to face. I really miss not having all tools of communication available in text, but then again, it has other advantages as well. Textual humor is slightly different from face to face stuff.

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    idk probably a bit more "Fi" seeming. Kinda like a male Daria or Carrie lol. Online I come across a lot more perverted. In real life can still be perverted but I want the 'stars to align' better in that area and won't just sniff jockstraps all day like ur average gay club twink. Much more picky.

    My IEI sister liked when I was being more assertive at the restaurant the other day lol. she's like 'ooh you're being such a man- so bold' - so I have learned to speak up and be more confident IRL lol. What I like about getting older is you care less and less what other people think about you I think- and can more easily be yourself. I was talking about this with my mom earlier- like assuming the old person isn't going senile lol old people are funny/admiring because they so easily tell other people what they think regardless of niceness or diplomacy etc. My mom was all 'us old people don't care so much about being liked.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazaam View Post
    idk probably a bit more "Fi" seeming. Kinda like a male Daria or Carrie lol. Online I come across a lot more perverted. In real life can still be perverted but I want the 'stars to align' better in that area and won't just sniff jockstraps all day like ur average gay club twink. Much more picky.

    My IEI sister liked when I was being more assertive at the restaurant the other day lol. she's like 'ooh you're being such a man- so bold' - so I have learned to speak up and be more confident IRL lol. What I like about getting older is you care less and less what other people think about you I think- and can more easily be yourself. I was talking about this with my mom earlier- like assuming the old person isn't going senile lol old people are funny/admiring because they so easily tell other people what they think regardless of niceness or diplomacy etc. My mom was all 'us old people don't care so much about being liked.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shazaam View Post
    idk probably a bit more "Fi" seeming. Kinda like a male Daria or Carrie lol. Online I come across a lot more perverted. In real life can still be perverted but I want the 'stars to align' better in that area and won't just sniff jockstraps all day like ur average gay club twink. Much more picky.

    My IEI sister liked when I was being more assertive at the restaurant the other day lol. she's like 'ooh you're being such a man- so bold' - so I have learned to speak up and be more confident IRL lol. What I like about getting older is you care less and less what other people think about you I think- and can more easily be yourself. I was talking about this with my mom earlier- like assuming the old person isn't going senile lol old people are funny/admiring because they so easily tell other people what they think regardless of niceness or diplomacy etc. My mom was all 'us old people don't care so much about being liked.'
    Weird lol…thinking about it, I’m prob more Fe in person and more Fi online, especially on forums.

    it is also completely bizarre to me that anyone would type me Se creative. I can only guess I come a crossed more assertive through text. I told my kids about people thinking I’m Se and they were like, ‘um, no. Definitely not.’ And they laughed. Im homeschooling them Socionic’s, you see. My own little cult.

    my husband has rubbed off on me a lot, we’ve been together 17 years. I def am more confident with him peering over my shoulder and got more mouthy maybe because of it, than I was before. I’ve even adapted to some of his viewpoints and use similar sayings, and him being a Se ego, maybe that’s what people pick up on…I really don’t know
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    In person its a lot more obvious that my natural state is play-fighting, mischief, and improvising. I think I might come off more serious online idk.

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    Interesting replies

    Online communication is sort of like a disembodied voice or a humanity's weird ass desire to have wings & fly. Theoretically & in a scale of 1-10, online confidence might be 7, whereas in real life that number might be fluctuant.

    Practically, online might be a decent place to practice the rough draft of my college thesis and for other people (not me) to channel their inner grammar Nazi.

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    I went out to get my bread from the bakery earlier. I met my neighbor and his wife in the hallway as I was waiting for the elevator. They had just celebrated their daughter's engagement (it was the day before yesterday). The fiancé and his family hired a small traditional orchestra. For the record, I was so focused in what I was doing on the PC that I thought the music I was hearing was coming from outside the building. It was actually right outside my front door, literally. But I digress.

    So I was in the hallway and Mr. neighbour (Father) was the first to show up. I don't know why, but I've decided to address my congratulations to.

    me : "Congratulation sir for...what you did the other day" I said with a pronounced yet controlled feeling of awkwardness

    He looked at me with a perplex facial expression and then he understood what I meant :

    him : "Oh, thank you !" hes said while touching my left arm (luckily for me it wasn't at the level of my sore shoulder !).

    Miss neighbour (his wife) shows up and I saluted her...

    Him : "Aren't you ...the neighbour ?" he asked with some uncertainty in his voice

    me : "Yes, I am" his wife smiled...

    Him : "I ask because we never know if you are at home or not"

    me : "I'm always at home" I said

    Him : "ah, it's because we don't hear you at all"

    me : " Oh, I"m rather discret.."

    they both gave me an understanding nodding head and smiled. And that's when the elevator arrived...

    My energy during the all that :

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    i am resisting the urge to delete all my social media accounts that have my name associated with them but i can't because i'm building up a ministry. in a different reality i would 100% go anon so no irls find me. maybe that's why i love forums like this so much since my user is just a bunch of gibberish to most people and i don't have any names connected to me.

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    In real life, I could rather say I rarely speak or express my thoughts, and it turns out such an attitude ends up to be confusing for others as I would rather act upon the situation than talk things out, constantly leading to a confusion on what I was thinking. My classmates would usually describe me as calm, serene, and very quiet. However, around the circle I'm familiar with, I'd be by all of a sudden energetic, intrigued and enthusiastic when interacting with others. Honestly, it also depends. Some strangers may see me as terrifying due to such an unintended moment of staring to others, while some teachers talked behind me, regarding my presence to be the one who condescends others. However, I would say I'm able to smile or make some superficial/genuine expressions, but it's just I need an engaging environment to be able to do so.

    In online though, it's more or less the same, except that I would use emotes, write copypasta, do spams, be a troll or constantly break rules as such.
    On Discord, I would be extremely formal, sometimes too polite to the point many would've thought I'm clueless about the platform's informality intent.
    However, if I finally got comfortable with environments, I would be quite talkative and extremely over-sharing what ever interests or hobbies I have.
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    Overtime with people in circles, i've heard professor. Lol. It is the professor!

    Not sure how i come across here.

    Maybe light hearted here.



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    In real life, I speak before thinking.

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    In-person, well, outside of my home, because my family is dysfunctional and abusive, I am very quiet and I am cordial enough and polite. I tip others my extra change, and I will hold the door a lot of times.. I do not initiate conversation generally, unless it is a person whose car I am in (via Lyft), and I feel uncomfortable.. I have had a few very bad experiences with drivers.. I never used to have that prior.

    I do not share anything about myself and am far from being dramatic. I met a few people in person from this forum, it would be interesting to hear how they’d interpret myself, though Ibrahim had already written an analysis of myself in sedecology.. I kept my mask on the entire time of his meeting, because I was embarrassed of my nose injury.

    I am sure that the people at my developmental disability day program would describe me as polite, introverted, intelligent, kept to self, and eccentric.. My youth (16-25 is the program age range served and it is for such with lessened psychosocial supports who have a SMI; serious mental illness which in my case is ptsd) caseworker would describe the same, but would describe me as more withdrawn and moody, having known me for coming 7 years..

    I do not really have to write about myself online, as people already would know. I have overshared a lot— primarily in due to having absolutely no one in my immediate life but the caseworker who has a caseload of like twenty people. As I’ve formed online relations, I’ve gotten better about this and mostly vent unto them, but when I have complex ptsd flares, sometimes this spills, and at my 4’s 2 disintegration, I can become quite histrionic, but this still shows mostly online— in a withdrawn social dom way, I don’t exhibit this in person.

    I am very kept to myself in person. My caseworker has to push and push me, aside from this IEE guy, to go to a wellness center where I got pushed to make a class on essential oils (which I quit). I one time had walked up to a guy who was rather anxious and handed him some oils to calm down..

    I sometimes just “take” things to avoid a conflict with others (not when it involves my personal emotions or how I view myself though, I am extremely reactive fundamentally in this, which is even why online and family means happen). Like if someone got my order wrong, I will just take it because I don’t wanna deal with having to confront them or not believing myself or if I feel like I’d be blamed for something someone else did, sometimes I will occasionally clean it up. I will never bend over for anything that regards my own self-view, my own emotions, self-experience or identity, and it was hard enough to even get me more immersed into the community and I am not even going to get into that and somethings I outright refused and still refuse, in due to me not wanting let go of my pain until someone values and cares about it and of myself. I will get reactive, but this never has really happened to me in person outside my family other than one time with a spiritual counselor to which I reacted emotionally and cried a lot. Hypothetically, I’d react as how online.

    If I am in a very bad mood, I will not be quite as polite and if am asked to do something I will ignore it sometimes or will be snappy and say I already did..

    Overall, I am a quiet, idiosyncratic eccentric… Who can be polite enough, doesn’t want conflict with others, wants be seen as interesting and not dull or plain.. And who primarily just withdraws into her own internal emotional states, fantasies and frustrations.. Dream about the future and brood the past.

    I do not like having to go in dull areas.. I will often just take a Lyft or the handicap bus to a town where I’ll eat vegan food, will read or daydream at the park, occasionally swing, hike a bit.. Sit in the coffee shop and write some.. I do not going into plain stores like Target, and get annoyed and frustrated by this.

    Before Covid, I had sat in a clairvoyant circle and a mediumship one a few times. I hated the mediumship one and quit it, because it made me feel self-conscious about myself with all of those people and feeling many are more gifted than myself, and I didn’t feel comfortable therein. It made me feel self-ashamed and also, overwhelmed by that many of a people mass (more than 20).

    Also something worth pointing out also, is I get really annoyed when I am
    asked for money from homeless people and I have snapped a few times out of annoyance from their persistence. But when I see someone who is homeless and who doesn’t ask, I don’t tend think twice about giving them a few quarters, and my heart bleeds a bit for specific cases where I feel a genuine need one needs a bit of help and I’ll offer a bit of spare change. I have also observed and stood in the background to ensure others are okay, who have had medical crisis, I asked the parents of one disabled adult man if he needed an ambulance/911, I’ve given people a water bottle when there was a car accident once, I also stood and made sure this elder who split his head in the mall was okay even though others were huddled around him and I believe I offered him water. There was a time I also helped a girl out of a swing who got stuck, and her other friends were trying pull her out (they were teens who went into the baby swing). When I’ve been super disintegrated into 2, I used to post my helping of them on social media, and to highlight my sensitivity and compassion with a few of those maters, but I haven’t done that for them all. Wanting acknowledgment and care given to me (giving away to get). It took like twenty minutes or more for the swing is a hard time, and I had the other girls try call for a parent..

    There was a woman at a Barnes and Noble once this recent, who had made conversation with myself and said how I am “like her” (which I didn’t like but ignored it), and I told her I found what I’m looking for, a book on the Akashic records (I intuited the Akashic records, but wanted know their history and stuff).. Eventually she went on crying.. Saying how she’s 54 and finding herself and might break up with her husband of many something years.. I made a sympathetic sound with my voice and didn’t attempt at further consolation, but I had seen a copy of the Wisdom of the Enneagram , led her to it and handed it to her and she ended up getting herself it, and I said a few words of support and of how the book will put her into the right track of becoming more self-aware (hopefully, it can help ameliorate their relationship).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metaphor View Post
    In real life, I could rather say I rarely speak or express my thoughts, and it turns out such an attitude ends up to be confusing for others as I would rather act upon the situation than talk things out, constantly leading to a confusion on what I was thinking. My classmates would usually describe me as calm, serene, and very quiet. However, around the circle I'm familiar with, I'd be by all of a sudden energetic, intrigued and enthusiastic when interacting with others. Honestly, it also depends. Some strangers may see me as terrifying due to such an unintended moment of staring to others, while some teachers talked behind me, regarding my presence to be the one who condescends others. However, I would say I'm able to smile or make some superficial/genuine expressions, but it's just I need an engaging environment to be able to do so.

    In online though, it's more or less the same, except that I would use emotes, write copypasta, do spams, be a troll or constantly break rules as such.
    On Discord, I would be extremely formal, sometimes too polite to the point many would've thought I'm clueless about the platform's informality intent.
    However, if I finally got comfortable with environments, I would be quite talkative and extremely over-sharing what ever interests or hobbies I have.
    The ladder in your commentary I have observed in social first and second 5’s (I have also in yourself via discord interaction). I have taken a notice it’s often a 5’s love language to those whom they are fond of (aside from they’d also tend to analyze and solve others’ problems, which rather than problem solve, I want my emotions acknowledged, personally).

    I believe there more than 5 love languages, but that would fall into like quality time and acts of service, more than likely, maybe even an abstract “gift giving” of knowledge..
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    I was much more sane IRL than on here.
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    It took me a long time to realize that everything counts as real life.
    And also there's no real life, but what you believe is your life becomes your life.

    There are many ways you can interpret your existence and interaction with the inner and outer worlds
    For ex. You can interpret living as having continuous sex with everything that exists (from a metaphysical and energy level perspectives, of course), from every cell in your body.

    Or you can choose to kill some aspect of your body-mind-soul-spirit in order to better perceive some more desirable life facet.

    Types are exactly the killing or repressing of some aspect in order to specialize in some priority perspective.

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    Online I open up more because there is less risk when people get toxic. I can just turn it off.

    In person, I'm more of an actor, not because I like it or because I want to do that, but because...it's like the old X-men 90s cartoon...humans don't like people that are different.

    And I'm very different. Neurodiverse, Traumatic Childhood (told my dad once when I was living with him that I realized I had aspergers or mild autism and that it was causing problems with stress and finding a job that suited me and he said "go to Toastmasters" and that will fix it or I kick you out and I just left and never saw him again...), high intelligence (unfortunately), "some" autistic traits like hypersensitivity to sounds, emotions (very high empathy ability), but lack mirror neurons (I think) (because reading people's extemporaneous emotions through the eyes is mentally overstimulating like it's unnatural and it takes me a moment to mentalize it, like I have to internalize and imagine the emotion, not just feel it directly, but then I'm understanding it more deeply than I'm comfortable), dyspraxia (I'm ambidextrous because I have no preference and don't learn well from watching other people move because my moments aren't going to be the same). I'm also bisexual...non-binary. LGBT is a lot more common with Autism.

    All that to say that I always feel like a spy among the population. I used to feel existential lonely when I thought I wanted or needed to relate with people, but I got no help for anyone and nobody really cares about anything outside of their own ego and lives. And most people are just full of too many biases and prejudices (and a big reason why I liked reading Jungian Types and thinking about philosophy because it helps me put all of this crap into perspective, but it's also very mentally exhausting and tiring at times). A human is ego and 'real' sin (not that Christianity prejudice crap). But nobody cares (at least in America). Nobody cares about anything, except their own ego and what they think "should" be or what they think people "should" be or what their pastor, religion, newscaster, or favorite authority figure tells them to hate and scapegoat to make themselves feel better. Instead, as a spy, I get blend in and hear people say awful things about people who are different (but not harming anyone) and each other and I don't want anything to do with it. I still remember that day I went to Home Depot and the cashier started telling me how more people are gay and bi now and it's because of Satan and they are sinners and in the Middle East they just kill them...and I'm like...ohh...okay...great...cool. Why is humanity like this? Or the girl that seemed to have a crush on me and I liked her, but when I realized I was bi one day and told her, suddenly she didn't like me anymore and all the attention was gone...the shit never ends. Being a straight male LSE that does everything society tells them to and excels sounds like Heaven (though also Hell because you are a pure product of society..., but...).

    I haven't actually put these thoughts into words until now, this sounds really bad.
    It's kind of like this daydreaming I used to do, where I would imagine helping people and doing something great, but then people want to give me attention and tell me how great I am, but it would scare me and make me really uncomfortable. And I wondered why? And then I realized I would rather do good things without recognition, than with it, because I don't really feel accepted by humanity. And it would just make me feel extreme existential loneliness. And I wouldn't mind making the world better, but I also want (or is it need?) distance from people.

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