If you met a Dual you were perfectly compatible with…

[Weenusflytrap]

Like you were duals in every subtype, even the unidentified ones, and they were the perfect complementary inverse of you, would you be able to remain just friends or is romantic attraction inevitable? What creates romantic attraction anyway? Something more than this?

[necrosebud]

if they are your preferred gender and both of you are physically attracted to each other it seems with everything else already aligning based on your description, perhaps chemistry might be inevitable?

[BrainlessSquid]

I don't know. I've met my perfect complementary already. But I've chosen to surrender to that. Maybe I could have avoided if I weren't single at the time we met.
But I felt from the moment I put my eyes on her, that we would end up together. I just waited and watched everything develop by itself.
(It took a lot longer than I expected though. We only 'clicked' after about 5 months of casual meetings, where we eventually surrendered to being close psychologically).
Your perfect dual may actually seem incompatible and it's easy to pass them by unless you spend a fair amount of time or you happen to be on the right wavelength at the time.

Since we clicked about 7 months ago, the longest time I spent away from her was around 9 hours (not considering sleep time).

We often wake up at the same time at dawn, and we end up texting a little bit. And she knows she can call me anytime at sleep time, I will wake up to accept the call. Yes, we're crazy love bombing unapologetically romantic.
We also had romantic dreams about each other long before we clicked.
She refused to tell me afraid of spoiling things.
Now we continue to dream about each other, but we always tell everything.

I'm against the idea of becoming whole through someone else, but I have to accept that I have to take reality as it is and not as I wish it were. It's indeed possible to find a solid baseline for your life, a safe place, through someone else. A world of its own.

Maybe in another timeline in another universe, we may have chosen to go our separate ways. But at this point with her, we have promised to never leave each other, only death can separate us, no matter what happens.

And yes love is still a decision. Attraction isn't

[persimmonism]

If of your preferred sex, I think it's inevitable, like North-South magnets

[loopyclouds]

Ironically, I think the more complementary your dual is, the more likely you are to pass them by - their existence really feels that natural that you don’t notice them at all, or if you do, find them incredibly boring.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

Attraction is usually just physical and shallow and there isn't much to it than that. Observing normies in their natural habitat tells me this is true, whereas most Stacies stereotypically having well-fit and tall and very handsome husbands that are very Chad-like and having kids with them. People make fun of incels but come on, when somebody is right they are right even if they are nerdy or unpopular.

Yeah personalities matter to a point. I don't think people want to be with somebody too socially awkward or an axe murderer (as long as they are not the ones that are axe murdered that would probably just be more part of the turn on for them....) I fell for a guy who had a very good imagination, his body wasn't that hot (but good-average and passable) but he had a very attractive face. I admit if I didn't find his face sexy I wouldn't talk to him.

Romance is just linked with them in the sense, you think something might be there and a hope for a positive future because you are attracted to their pheromones and want to be around them physically. You are more careful around them because you don't want to fuck it up and risk your chances of being laid or spreading your DNA etc. Afaik, we are attratced to people based on our gut and intensial microbes. They draw you in and make you feel safe. It's called masculine containment, or if you're a str8 man yourself you are turned on by them because they are basically willing prey.

Sad part is the "Chads" Elliot Rodger killed most of them didn't look like chads to me, just above average beta males at best- some of them even looked nerdy and awkward. There are a lot of men way more hotter and chad-like than the ones he killed which is just kinda depressing. If you want to be vengeful and get personal justice, at least do it right. It's just sad and sympathetic or something.

[Lord Pixel]

They'd be

- Socionics LSE Si subtype H
- Enneagram Sx/sp 162 or 369, any of those in any order, throw a 7 in there
- OPS ESTJ Te/Si MF
- MBTI ESTJ

[Lord Pixel]

Ironically, I think the more complementary your dual is, the more likely you are to pass them by - their existence really feels that natural that you don’t notice them at all, or if you do, find them incredibly boring.

I think the more complimentary they are, the more likely they are gonna appear too good for you and way outta your league. This is probably more so true int eh eyes of the introvert.
I agree with the feels natural, and I'd say it's not a feeling of excitement, but a feeling of "why in the world is this STRANGER so easy to talk to." and that starts the tie. Then if you talk to them there is a feeling left behind when they are gone, kinda like you were under a warm blanket and someone yanked it off of you, breeze feels colder than usual.

But yea I've never found a dual boring and I think I have arguably what most would consider the second or third most boring dual after SLI and SEI, which is funny because I find my duals can be boring ppl, but I also am not bored around them, if that makes sense.

I've even felt related to some duals lol.

[Lord Pixel]

I don't know. I've met my perfect complementary already. But I've chosen to surrender to that. Maybe I could have avoided if I weren't single at the time we met.
But I felt from the moment I put my eyes on her, that we would end up together. I just waited and watched everything develop by itself.
(It took a lot longer than I expected though. We only 'clicked' after about 5 months of casual meetings, where we eventually surrendered to being close psychologically).
Your perfect dual may actually seem incompatible and it's easy to pass them by unless you spend a fair amount of time or you happen to be on the right wavelength at the time.

Since we clicked about 7 months ago, the longest time I spent away from her was around 9 hours (not considering sleep time).

We often wake up at the same time at dawn, and we end up texting a little bit. And she knows she can call me anytime at sleep time, I will wake up to accept the call. Yes, we're crazy love bombing unapologetically romantic.
We also had romantic dreams about each other long before we clicked.
She refused to tell me afraid of spoiling things.
Now we continue to dream about each other, but we always tell everything.

I'm against the idea of becoming whole through someone else, but I have to accept that I have to take reality as it is and not as I wish it were. It's indeed possible to find a solid baseline for your life, a safe place, through someone else. A world of its own.

Maybe in another timeline in another universe, we may have chosen to go our separate ways. But at this point with her, we have promised to never leave each other, only death can separate us, no matter what happens.

And yes love is still a decision. Attraction isn't

bro...you're giving ppl way too much hope, this needs to calm down lol.

[Lord Pixel]

I will say I have experienced that duality is something that happens by itself, on it's own, it's not voluntary, but still we are ppl and can choose to ignore or avoid it for whatever reason.

[loopyclouds]

I agree with the feels natural, and I'd say it's not a feeling of excitement, but a feeling of "why in the world is this STRANGER so easy to talk to." and that starts the tie. Then if you talk to them there is a feeling left behind when they are gone, kinda like you were under a warm blanket and someone yanked it off of you, breeze feels colder than usual.

But yea I've never found a dual boring and I think I have arguably what most would consider the second or third to most boring dual after SLI and SEI, which is funny because I find my duals can be boring ppl, but I also am not bored round them, if that makes sense.

Lmao I find EIIs (sometimes ESIs) and SLIs the most boring people of the socion SEI, not so much, as they can be quite bubbly and adventurous. LSEs can be a legit borefest too, but the only thing that gives them some advantage over the others is their high energy level and strong Se I guess. When LSE begin to ramble on their long-drawn out story with extraordinary amount of unnecessary detail, I inwardly sigh and brace myself.

[Lord Pixel]

Lmao I find EIIs (sometimes ESIs) and SLIs the most boring people of the socion SEI, not so much, as they can be quite bubbly and adventurous. LSEs can be a legit borefest too, but the only thing that gives them some advantage over the others is their high energy level and strong Se I guess. When LSE begin to ramble on their long-drawn out story with extraordinary amount of unnecessary detail, I inwardly sigh and brace myself.

Lol that's how I feel about SEI, except I don't brace myself, I have to remind myself to appear I'm like I'm listening to not be rude.

[one]

If they don't look "right"/not a type
If they are an evil person
If they are in a relationship

[Muira]

They'd be

- Socionics LSE Si subtype H
- Enneagram Sx/sp 162 or 369, any of those in any order, throw a 7 in there
- OPS ESTJ Te/Si MF
- MBTI ESTJ

sx1s make sp8s look chill or calm, think Gordon Ramsey, settle for sp1 or so1s if you prefer peice.

[Squirrel]

sx1s make sp8s look chill or calm, think Gordon Ramsey, settle for sp1 or so1s if you prefer peice.

Just imagine a discussion between 1Sx and 8Sx

[Muira]

Just imagine a discussion between 1Sx and 8Sx

Imagine them in the same room, shit would hit the fan multiple times

[EIE H]

It’s all dependent on mental health level.

The closest dual dynamic I have with anyone is with my therapist. But he’s likely LSI-H with a very similar enneagram tritype to me. We just have moments of pure connection. And he rarely misconstrues what I am saying. He will just plainly call me out on things with a joke.


The closest one in terms of actual typing match, I am convinced he legitimately killed off a lot of his brain cells due to chronic alcohol and drug use, starting from age 14. It was quite painful to watch and I was hopelessly delusional in thinking he could get better. He was a self-proclaimed racist, sexist, homophobic “gay” black guy. He did this partly for shock value but also partly because he kinda actually believed it (so much unresolved trauma he couldn’t handle dealing with). We did hook up a few times (I am a woman, btw).

[godslave]

I'm kinda foreign to the concept of "meeting someone" let alone a dual. My lifestyle since the past five years has significantly worsened and so did my social instincts (using that concept is, for once, useful in this context !). I've just abandoned the idea of a potential future "significant other" finding me ! In fact, I live as if the real world was like some kind of Matrix or hostile territory or a "world above" like in the 80's series "the beauty and the beast".

^
This show is about a secret impossible romance. I've lived a similar thing an eternity ago (in fact all my romances were "secret" ).

When I go to the mall people including myself are passing by but among these persons there is necessarily a theoretical perfect duals, but I don't even look at people anymore or just enough to not enter in collision with them. I just do my shopping and come back home ( 200 metres away !) asap.

That said, moments of attention can happen, and sometimes a lady that meets my tastes appears right in the center of my vision field. It usually starts with the initial fact that I liked her "energy" (I use that word a lot as a synonym of "vibe") which is the main criterion of "meeting my tastes". So I would contemplate that lady for a fraction of time and that's it. All I would do is to take mental pictures of the lady and search for what I like the most is her. I don't have sexual thoughts though. I know that it's a common thing for people to imagine having sex with other people they see here and there, but I don't remember having such "visions" since a very long time (back in my teenage years maybe ?!). Doesn't such fantasies sound like a form of mental rape ? It's weird to imagine sexual things with a woman that didn't give consent, isn't it ?

Anyway, the dual thing is overrated esp in romantic contexts. It doesn't make sense to systemize romantic relationships. I mean, in socionics everything is ought to be contextualized from a societal perspective (the socion, social mission etc...) even Dual ITR. It's about information metabolism (whatever !) . TIMs are not real people, EIE doesn't "Love" or systematically falls for "LSI" ect... TIMs don't have biological attributes ! For instance TIMs don't "age" they don't have feelings, they don't have instincts, they are just charts, abstract modelisation of an already abstract phenomenon namely, the Psyche. However, I can understand that ITR are good for business esp in the domain of dating and stuff like that.

[BrainlessSquid]

I'm kinda foreign to the concept of "meeting someone" let alone a dual. My lifestyle since the past five years has significantly worsened and so did my social instincts (using that concept is, for once, useful in this context !). I've just abandoned the idea of a potential future "significant other" finding me ! In fact, I live as if the real world was like some kind of Matrix or hostile territory or a "world above" like in the 80's series "the beauty and the beast".

^
This show is about a secret impossible romance. I've lived a similar thing an eternity ago (in fact all my romances were "secret" ).

When I go to the mall people including myself are passing by but among these persons there is necessarily a theoretical perfect duals, but I don't even look at people anymore or just enough to not enter in collision with them. I just do my shopping and come back home ( 200 metres away !) asap.

That said, moments of attention can happen, and sometimes a lady that meets my tastes appears right in the center of my vision field. It usually starts with the initial fact that I liked her "energy" (I use that word a lot as a synonym of "vibe") which is the main criterion of "meeting my tastes". So I would contemplate that lady for a fraction of time and that's it. All I would do is to take mental pictures of the lady and search for what I like the most is her. I don't have sexual thoughts though. I know that it's a common thing for people to imagine having sex with other people they see here and there, but I don't remember having such "visions" since a very long time (back in my teenage years maybe ?!). Doesn't such fantasies sound like a form of mental rape ? It's weird to imagine sexual things with a woman that didn't give consent, isn't it ?

Anyway, the dual thing is overrated esp in romantic contexts. It doesn't make sense to systemize romantic relationships. I mean, in socionics everything is ought to be contextualized from a societal perspective (the socion, social mission etc...) even Dual ITR. It's about information metabolism (whatever !) . TIMs are not real people, EIE doesn't "Love" or systematically falls for "LSI" ect... TIMs don't have biological attributes ! For instance TIMs don't "age" they don't have feelings, they don't have instincts, they are just charts, abstract modelisation of an already abstract phenomenon namely, the Psyche. However, I can understand that ITR are good for business esp in the domain of dating and stuff like that.

This is the most IEE post I've seen in a long time.

godslave - ENFP confirmed