Socionics more scientific?

[thistle]

The first ideas to came to mind sound a bit silly in written form:

- If the introverted functions could somehow be captured in brain scans or recorded in the form of mind's images/snapshots, that would be interesting to see.

- If the nervous system response when in communication with a dual (compared with a supervisor for example) could be measured. I don't know where I'm going with this idea, what I am trying to get at is a way to avoid jumping to conclusions and writing off an opportunity to understand someone.

- A way to measure the effect that upbringing has on the Super-Id block.

- If certain activities could be proven to help balance out an excess/overuse of one function. A unintended benefit could be spending time with someone else's perspective by trying something different that comes naturally to them, but not to you.

[Braingel]

The first ideas to came to mind sound a bit silly in written form:

- If the introverted functions could somehow be captured in brain scans or recorded in the form of mind's images/snapshots, that would be interesting to see.

- If the nervous system response when in communication with a dual (compared with a supervisor for example) could be measured. I don't know where I'm going with this idea, what I am trying to get at is a way to avoid jumping to conclusions and writing off an opportunity to understand someone.

- A way to measure the effect that upbringing has on the Super-Id block.

- If certain activities could be proven to help balance out an excess/overuse of one function. A unintended benefit could be spending time with someone else's perspective by trying something different that comes naturally to them, but not to you.

Your first idea would not work, given it would only show someone is an extrovert if not being able see in brain, the Ep and EJ (Pe and Je). At most it would just show a bit, but maybe the creative introverted functions would show differently than that of base. But ten you still have two types between to figure out; the logical or ethical, which perhaps it can be easier show from that.

Second idea is fruitless. You can be attracted to anyone and even if not dual, it will be shown better. You would need have no one in a relationship. And they would HAVE to be strangers. Things like physical appearance, what you are attracted to, can get in way, though. Blue eyes versus brown, blonde versus brunette. Tall vs short.

[thistle]

Your first idea would not work, given it would only show someone is an extrovert if not being able see in brain, the Ep and EJ (Pe and Je). At most it would just show a bit, but maybe the creative introverted functions would show differently than that of base. But ten you still have two types between to figure out; the logical or ethical, which perhaps it can be easier show from that.

Second idea is fruitless. You can be attracted to anyone and even if not dual, it will be shown better. You would need have no one in a relationship. And they would HAVE to be strangers. Things like physical appearance, what you are attracted to, can get in way, though. Blue eyes versus brown, blonde versus brunette. Tall vs short.

About visualising the introverted functions, I did not think as far ahead as using that to determine someone's type. It was more like a wonder of what an introverted sensation looks like - if you could capture and bottle all of that sensation to observe from an outsider's perspective.

You're right about the second idea being fruitless. It would be difficult to figure out whether the duality alone was causing the comfort response. As you said, being familiar with a person already would place you in a more comfortable state for a start. It is possible to feel guarded for reasons outside of a bad socionics relationship, too.