I think this a fun and cool topic to discuss. I would like to know what you may think is the biggest strength for SEI, ESE, LII, and ILE or just brag about your own lol.
So, what are the greatest strengths of the alpha quadrant types?
Greatest Strength of Each Alpha Type
I think this a fun and cool topic to discuss. I would like to know what you may think is the biggest strength for SEI, ESE, LII, and ILE or just brag about your own lol.
So, what are the greatest strengths of the alpha quadrant types?
ILE: There is no reality but only perspectives that might sense except it should also fail because...
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
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SEI=Cute
ESE=Cool
ILE: Quirky
LII: Chill
My favorite thing about ILEs is their sense of humor. I suppose this isn’t the same thing as their greatest strength, though.
ESE- my sister has amazing class; she dresses well and eats the best food. I can do without her negative emotions but her positive ones are great
LII- thoughtfulness, quiet nature, sometimes goofy and music taste
ILE- I don’t know very many in close contact but generally they seem a lot like ESE in their rationality and thought otherwise they have dark sides to them I can do without
SEI- they know how to relax by the pool and ask about your feelings and they can use humor to bring you some fun
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
ESE- They are really intelligent when it comes to the social environment and learning to balance it out. I've always enjoyed the ESE's could both stand their ground without screwing over the social atmosphere. I find them to be welcoming and caring.
LII- The flexible intelligence and very knowledgeable about subject while coming across very friendly. I love the way they describe and explain concepts to me and I love listening to their own thoughts. It's got that quirky aspect with a quiet friendly that I enjoy. One of my favorite professors was an LII.
ILE -Intellectually quick and know how to make use of their environment while remaining confident in both themselves and possibilities. I am pretty jealous of their strength to say the least.
SEI-the hidden comfort/stability of an environment with a touch of quirky-ness and spice. I find it weird to talk about myself but, I have an SEI coworker who I was always happy to be around as she was always chill and always indulged with me on quirky subjects and big plans for travels.
SEI - esp. if social-firsts, their ability to charm and positively predispose others to themselves is unparalleled
ESE - loyal to a fault to people and causes they care about
LII - are uniquely able to integrate emotional intensity into intellectual depth
ILE - their intelligence seemingly knows no bounds and incises concepts with unbelievable speed
What is even going on here?
My own Quadra is starting to look pretty annoying...
First of all:
I AM NOT CUTE
I AM NOT CHILL
I AM NOT ALWAYS BRINGING POSITIVE MOODS
I AM NOT MAKING COMFORT
I may come off as QuIrKy sometimes but I wouldn't call my self QuIrKy.
Being "chill" or "cute" really isn't a strength?? It's just an ordinary personality trait. I hate being associated with those things, I hate it so much it makes my blood boil.
You want to know why I hate being seen as "cute"? Because it sounds demeaning, infantilizing and like people don't want to take me seriously.
So either disown me from Alpha Quadra or STOP giving SEIs these adjectives, please and thank you.
Lets not ruin her gameOriginally Posted by one
I'm not playing a game?Lets not ruin her game
Like I know I use a lot of Fe on here to the point where I seem goofy and annoying and trollish but come on...
Are you all trying to confuse me?
No for the hundredth time, I am not a troll...
I might have to give up Socionics as I seem to be confusing everyone.
I assure you with this post I was being serious...
I just don't see Se DS, or 4D Ni use
If I am really SEI then I have to disagree with this perception and I hate it so much, maybe people are just stereotyping SEIs, IDK. I feel disgusted and just uncomfortable with how people describe SEIs too, it's a terrible representation of me and not how I want people to see me at all.
I've checked IEI descriptions, but again, I don't see Se DS (unless of course needing help focusing on what I need to do in the current moment or help with real, practical things counts as Se seeking, or needing to be pushed out into the real world (but that's more extroversion seeking)) or 4D Ni use. SEI descriptions suck so hard in describing me, I only feel confused by the descriptions and kind of repulsed.
I really can't say anything about connecting with SLEs either, they are far too different from me. It's like they live in another plane of existence as well, at least from my impressions on this forum. I have never met Se ego in real life so I can't make any comments on my ITRs with them.
I'm starting to think I will never be typed... ;-;
I am really not like those things I assure you. I'm not lying to troll people. I don't get why people seem to think I am a troll.
SEIs don't have to be any of these things.
SEIs can have dreams and goals that they don't want ruined.
This is all possible right? I get that I am emotionally all over the place but I'm not trolling.
Either i'm not SEI or you guys just don't understand my writing and I need to correct the way I express myself on this forum, because clearly I do not seem to get the point across to anyone.
You actually communicate with lovely devices and understanding. The whole portal you depict is transformative and open ended. I definitely don't want you to feel alienated or cast out.
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Raptor even won World Cup 1998 as Pikachu Arceus, dancing cyclones force utopia pleasant vibrations reanimated conjuration to scary face elvish scales blocking the sun
Marius Florin was the other Lugia in 2006, bathed in white water purity of extreme contemplation and magical holiness, and therefore Raptor won World Cup 2006 as well, fighting encore resting piece cupcake fruit roll ups!!
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I’ve found SEIs, especially those who have found their “niche” and sphere of interests, are ridiculously intelligent and insightful in an “old soul” kind of way. They are also quite observant and catch details of situations that most people miss - when there’s a problem, they are often the person who points out the single, relevant thing the rest of the group didn’t think of. SEIs are probably my favorite type to spend free time with, as together we are a creative force and they never get boring to me.
Just to say this:
Only my boyfriend has ever described me as "cute". No one ever said I was chill or comforting, even my boyfriend met other SEI and said she was too comfortable and said I was a challenge.
Definitely wouldn't say I am "positive" in a group, though.
Probably because the people I spoke with are either crazy dreamers like me or rowdy anti Fi, Fe atmospheres with little sense of comfort or chill in them. I kind of doubt EII would want to hang around in such an environment of loud, rowdy, crazy talk but maybe there will be an EII to prove me wrong lol.
At least there are people that don't think I'm trolling though
how many times does everyone on this ENTIRE forum have to say you're not SEI. I'm impressed that you've still managed to self-identify as that type despite nearly everything you've said on this forum basically proving otherwise.
okay
I'll go typeless then...
(I don't get how literally everything I've said goes against SEI though.)
Thank you.okay
I'll go typeless then...
You definitely seem like you don't really fit into a specific type, which is completely fine, though I'd recommend taking talanov's questionnaire once it releases again next month, which hopefully should help. Though you could take other tests online to figure out your function strengths, though they wouldn't necessarily be accurate.
EDIT: just figured out the test will be taking a "long vacation from July 1". so, uhh, ya, it'll be a while
I'm wary of most online tests, don't really like any of them. Hopefully with 584 questions it doesn't screw up my answer like they usually do.
I feel like I can "act" or "appear" as different things depending on where I am and who I am interacting with. This forum is all my raw emotions kind of unfiltered and spilled out everywhere, (stream of consciousness style) so I am not trying to conform to a specific image on here, and if so it is an unconscious thing.
I could be IXFX (but not ISFp or INFj) or EXFX (but a very introverted subtype).
And I mean Freelance could be right, maybe I am a very eccentric SEI.
She seems SEI to me. She seems to verbalize many thoughts which normal SEIs don't usually, and given what I know of her I think there are certain reasons for that, but those thoughts themselves seem common enough for the type. So I'm one person who thinks SEI fits.
The thing is her complete lack of any sign of Ne suggestive, and the extreme appreciation for Ni. I don't think she's said anything that really shows her Si other than in the most esoteric ways that really don't matter in ITR, but she has shown Ni. I don't want to type her myself though, since no one can really look at a person and give a confident and good answer for their type and strength in functions which is better than just taking a good test.
I've also never seen myself as a chill, comforting person. I don't feel like I'm that positive at all either, neither do I try to elicit that in others. (Maybe it's so subconscious that I don't even notice it) And I also do get slightly annoyed reading the things about SEI, it's just like there's nothing else there to us. Like we're just a ball of happiness there to take care of other people, which I don't even like having to do.
Chronic "grass is always greener" syndrome
Ehh if it bothers you, just focus on your actual qualities separate from your type. Then what you should probably do is either question your type and become homeless type like me, or start posting to break everyone's stereotypes of SEIs, and never give up posting to stop people from stereotyping you.
I'm 4w3 though, not 9w1 so my advice probably doesn't make a bunch of sense to someone that avoids conflict though. :\
Also I could probably be any type according to forum members,
Am I SEI?
Am I IEI?
Or could I possibly be any type at all but not SEI?
Or do I scream rationality so hard that I have to be a deranged ESE-Si or EIE-Ni or (lol) ESI/EII?
So I wouldn't trust myself right now personally for SEI to SEI advice...
Tbh, even if you end up not being SEI, breaking SEI stereotypes is great.
I can barely articulate this, forgive me, but I think there's something truly wonderful in Si that gets lost in the stereotypes, and I'm unhappy about that. Those stereotypes are taking so much away, making Si unidimentional and uninteresting.
So far, the SEIs around either aren't SEI or SEIs stereotypes are dumb.
There are types whose stereotypes makes them inhumane, thinking a type makes people who cannot ever get mad or choke everyone with freshly baked cookies is nuts.
I have no idea of your type, I'm only starting to get to know IEI-ness, SEI-ness is still a long way to go.
seconding this, cute, bringing positive moods and comfort would be the last thing on people’s list when describing me. I only agree with chill but that might just be the 9 in me.
In fact Midnight, I agree with a lot of stuff you’ve been posting, it’s gotten close to me second guessing my type when people say you’re not SEI but I’m positive that I am one.
@MidnightWilderness, being able to effortlessly appear to be other types (and still be iron-willed about being misunderstood) is a characteristic of IEIs.
Have you ever considered that as a possible type?
Hmm I just don't see any Se DS in me, or 4D Ni. I mean maybe, maybe, but... it doesn't feel quite right. Something is off... somehow...
that's fine, though what you should focus on is how strong your Ni is compared to other functions. And if you do have a reasonably strong Se, that's also fine. I know I got bimbo(random person who I don't think really posts much on the forum) to take the talanov test, and she acutally ended up managing to get Fe as her strongest and Te as her polr, which was fascinating. She also had a pretty modest Ni(she got EIE as her closest type, though she was pretty close to IEI and SEE), with it being her 3rd strongest function, and an Si which was 3rd weakest. So i just want you to consider what exactly you are, regardless of standard, hardpinned type.
Have you considered the possibility of being Ni suggestive and thus role Né?
I believe Fe creatives can only be Ne or Se base. Of you're not Ne base then you should be Se base. Think about it
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Some are better than others but generally:
SEI - real-time awareness with a solid anchor in reality
ESE - ability to understand another's reasoning
ILE - curiosity with very active inquisitiveness
LII - broad, independent rationalization
a.k.a. I/O
SEI - compassion
ESE - effort
ILE - cleverness
LII- logic
SEI - ability to find meaning in everyday existence
ESE - raw charisma
ILE - not sure I've ever met or recognized a real life ILE
LII - thoroughness/exactingness
The Alpha quadra always gets the least amount of views here, so are you guys so good at being evil & deceptive you go un-noticed or are you so good at being good people don't pay much attention to alpha because Good = Boring, and it's kinda like a story with no villain, no conflict, or no complex plot.
Do we get the least amount of views?
Yes we do
like it's usually around 10-20 people
wouldn't say it's all boring though
You equate Alphas and good? Why?
I like alpha NT’s, but alpha SF can (by pattern, not individual exception), be harder as for me.
My favorite types are SLE and LII for interacting with others, and LIE-Ni can be ok, but LIE-Te is too painful. Mature, caring LIE-Ni who are not overly harsh on me can be helpful in giving me constructive feedback.
I am in my head; not society.
Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am. Also, a brain angel. (+ my own incarnation of a Zelda concept).
My thoughts align w action to succeed what needs (at least in my dreamed ideal, they do)…
Dragons:
Babies, click them to make them grow up into Kara’s Dragon Museum
My favorite adult Museum Exhibits
@MidnightWilderness
I was being facetious: I understood the point of the thread to list stereotypes, and stereotypes are always reductionist; I was also trying to be funny by using one word beginning with a "k" sound to describe each type. I didn't mean for my post to be taken seriously or offend anyone.Being "chill" or "cute" really isn't a strength?? It's just an ordinary personality trait. I hate being associated with those things, I hate it so much it makes my blood boil.
You want to know why I hate being seen as "cute"? Because it sounds demeaning, infantilizing and like people don't want to take me seriously.
I do often see SEIs as "cute," in the way someone could find a dog cute. I don't think this is something I can easily change. But I also don't see why it's wrong to think that way, and I don't think it causes me to treat the type with any particular disrespect or to infantilize them. It's more that a typical SEI's relaxed demeanor and expressivity triggers similar neural feedbacks as dogs or young kids, and makes me enjoy their company, makes me want to talk and laugh and make jokes more; things like that.
How would you like to be seen?
I don't think chill or cute should be included as a greatest strength, it would have been more appropriate in a another thread although okay, you were being facetious, but everyone else seemed to give similar attributes that I highly disagree with. It just seemed awfully lame for a thread titled "Greatest Strength". It doesn't really matter how I would like to be seen, it's just that others have never described me as being any of these things. Also I got a *little* upset at this thread so I decided to just rant all my feelings.
Apparently I only come off as a "troll" pretending to be SEI, because I say too much stuff against the typing. At this point I have been kicked out of Alpha Quadra with slim chance of return, Freelance. So I can no longer speak on behalf of SEIs. Everyone will probably be confused as to what type I am for a long time, since I seem to come off as pretty much any ethical type to some people.
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