SEI, how do you deal with a grubby dual/ILE?

[Stray Cat]

IEI are amazing The victim erotic style isn't problematic for me at all. However, when they stubbornky resist Se, they just become unproductive victims in my opinion.

My question to SEIs:. How do you, as a dominant sensor, deal with an ILE who stubbornly resists Si? I'm sure Ne is pleasant to you but what if ILE become totally Ne focused & refuse your guidance?.

Folk with the Si/Ne experience is welcome, particularly from the Si perspective

[FreelancePoliceman]

@Stray Cat

How do you see IEIs resisting Se? And do you consider yourself receptive to Ni?

[Stray Cat]

@Stray Cat

How do you see IEIs resisting Se? And do you consider yourself receptive to Ni?

I'm receptive cause I'm a good listener, in general. Se ain't perfect. Advice from others is cool. Which is actually what irritates me about IEIs resistance. Their Se is impulsive. If you told them that walking on broken glass wasn't wise, they'd one day go dancing on top of it while getting their giggles. Not saying they oughta do what Se-egos say, but reality is real. Broken glass is broken glass. It isn't funny. Broken glass cuts shit.

By picking your battles I guess. 1d Si doesn’t really bother me to begin with.

I have 1d Ni. 1d Se doesn't bother me. Being a fucking dumbass does, especially when the retard keeps making the same mistake. IEI got potential but sometimes its like, wtf?

[Baqer]

I have 1d Ni. 1d Se doesn't bother me. Being a fucking dumbass does, especially when the retard keeps making the same mistake. IEI got potential but sometimes its like, wtf?

Is it possible that the Ni ego's you've meant are just idiots and there are actually reasonable Ni ego's who you haven't met yet?

[Stray Cat]

Is it possible that the Ni ego's you've meant are just idiots and there are actually reasonable Ni ego's who you haven't met yet?

Ni is awesome. It's idiotic to rely on Ni to where one ignores concrete reality. I dig Ni, it's "ignoring" of Se that sucks.

[Baqer]

Ni is awesome. It's idiotic to rely on Ni to where one ignores concrete reality. I dig Ni, it's "ignoring" of Se that sucks.

I'm not exactly sure how Se/Ni dom relationships are supposed to go, but I assumed that it would be the Se dom's role to almost literally drag the Ni dom down to earth?

[Braingel]

@Stray Cat

How do you see IEIs resisting Se? And do you consider yourself receptive to Ni?

Maybe an IEI enne 9 or 6 can be a bit more resistant, despite it being suggestive.. Especially 9.

[Braingel]

He also suck out our EIE friend Skar a lot too, for some Ni things.. And then another IEI in our discord group..

[Poptart]

By picking your battles I guess. 1d Si doesn’t really bother me to begin with.

[timber]

I have witnessed the same pattern with a unhealthy IEE and Si.

What I see is a person who refuses to do things that are good and beneficial in favour of like needling into their need to explore options. So they sit on their computer for hours and hours on end neglecting the things around them with 10,000 open tabs on their internet. A sort of stubborn refusal to get up and actually push through the pain of change. Their house becomes a collection of objects which represent aborted projects, which really are ideals, or ideas of what "could be".

This extends to failing to take care of themselves and their habitats in an extreme way: not bathing, not trimming their nails, not brushing their hair, not cleaning their dishes. Or if they do these things , in a sporadic and random fashion.

The strange irony here is that Si types can be the same way, especially the depressives. I mean anyone who is depressed starts to stop caring, at an instinctual, gut level, but Si, Ne really lays in here. Their habitats become hobbles, garbage filled nests, disorganized shacks. More and more is added to their collection of useful stuff turned junk. They cry out for an "organizer", but one who remains subdued and subtle, like a house elf.

Its sad really.

[Stray Cat]

I have witnessed the same pattern with a unhealthy IEE and Si.

What I see is a person who refuses to do things that are good and beneficial in favour of like needling into their need to explore options. So they sit on their computer for hours and hours on end neglecting the things around them with 10,000 open tabs on their internet. A sort of stubborn refusal to get up and actually push through the pain of change. Their house becomes a collection of objects which represent aborted projects, which really are ideals, or ideas of what "could be".

This extends to failing to take care of themselves and their habitats in an extreme way: not bathing, not trimming their nails, not brushing their hair, not cleaning their dishes. Or if they do these things , in a sporadic and random fashion.

The strange irony here is that Si types can be the same way, especially the depressives. I mean anyone who is depressed starts to stop caring, at an instinctual, gut level, but Si, Ne really lays in here. Their habitats become hobbles, garbage filled nests, disorganized shacks. More and more is added to their collection of useful stuff turned junk. They cry out for an "organizer", but one who remains subdued and subtle, like a house elf.

Its sad really.

You basically just nailed the concept I was getting at

[MissDucki]

I watch and then I observe on where they are going. They start getting to in the clouds then I need to grab then and bring them down. That or I just offer them something sensory Thinking back they have often been pretty enthusiastic about my suggestions.

If they are not listening, I just leave them be until it bites them in the ass or not. They can deal with the consequences themselves lol.

[wormwizard]

if my partner resist it then i wont force it on them but ill still put nesessities next to them maybe. Perhaps my partner is overworking on their computer, id just slip maybe some snacks or meal and lightly clean the room? It would be nice if youre more specific on why the ILE would reject Si in the first place