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jason_m
I respectfully disagree about the other sides having good arguements, I appreciate you trying to be Alpha-nice to all sides- but nah. =D I don't think there is good arguements on the other side. I'm not confident about much, but I am confident on those three topics haha.
People who are strict vegan- their skin looks all fucked up. Maybe it's not nice or PC for me to say that- but I'm not sure I care. They don't have natural animal fats that make skin look shiny and clean or something, and their skin looks brown and weird and sickly and unhealthy yet they preach to others that they are more moral than others because they don't eat meat? lol. Obviously eating too much meat causes cancers in human but that is why we are OMNIvores- not one or the other. To be fair, most of us definitely should probably eat more fruits and vegetables and less meat products- but being too campy with it is not naturally healthy. You could say that and advocate for that- because the average fat-ass American does more than likely eat too much meat and not enough fruits/vegetables.
Eating something isn't really the same thing as being
cruel to it- that has always been obvious to me but maybe not to others. People who are cruel to animals are fucked up and weird (in the bad way weird), and should probably be punished for their crimes or rehabilitated in some way where they can't harm animals like that. If animal rights groups want to protest that, I'd be all for it. However merely eating another thing for your own substance isn't inherently immoral, cruel or sociopathic. It's technically narcissistic, but any psychologist would tell you 'healthy narcissism' is good for people. In Tribal societies a lot of hunters had respectful rituals of compassion for the things they hunted. They didn't just have some campy orgasm demon thing when they consumed meat like a Disney Villain. lmao.