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    Default philosopher types

    I'll start:
    diogenes - SLE
    plato - IEI
    nietzsche - ILI or LIE
    alan watts - SEE?
    kierkegaard - delta?

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    Nietzsche's mustache associate him with LSI

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    I think most philosophers are ILI's (and mb some EIE's).

    It is like my go to place when I'm too stressed out for being too constricted - to construct world ending philosophies (yes, that stuff is too easy for me to grasp it and get tangled).
    Need to get hell outta there.

    If they look for purposeful application to life it favors dynamic Ni valuing orientation with non vulnerable Te that is subservient to something else this effectively leaves ILI and EIE on the table.

    Anyway:
    Nietzsche constructed Übermensch which resembles LSI. EIE.
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    Philosophy major here (and CS as well): philosophy to me is a combination of Ti and Ni: simply layers of abstraction. Western (analytical) philosophy is therefore Ti with Ni and Continental philosophy more Ni with Fi (or maybe NiFe)... I am therefore very good at analytical philosophy and not so great at the Continental variety...
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    Philosophy engages the splattering of growth and phases of launching the rocket to count up the progress manifesto towards liberation and enlightenment, to throw down the earthly shackles of clouded perception, and reach out into the infinite, where power beyond measure becomes available.
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    Well, the top of the clock could be the strategy for smashing the gale and tricking the devil's army into falling under our direct command, for a virtuous cause!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post

    I'll add:

    Sartre: SEE-Fi
    I take it you haven't read Being and Nothingness, a book that, far from showing the signs of having been written by a Ti-PoLR, exemplifies great logical precision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkdhf qkb View Post
    Hmmm I didn't, but after a cursory glance at it, I don't see that much T, rather a lot of Ni. I'll go with LIE-Ni instead, so still Gamma extravert with boosted Ni-Fi. Do you recommend the read? His style seems laborious, scholarly, cryptic and rather unstructured to me, which I'd expect would confuse rather than enlighten me.
    Being and Nothingness is one of my favorite books, but it certainly isn't for everyone. I wouldn't recommend it to someone who hasn't studied at least a few other, easier-to-understand philosophical texts, for example.

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    Controversial opinion

    Aristoteles
    Sokrates
    Platon
    Schopenhauer
    Nietzsche
    Hegel
    Kierkegaard
    Sartre
    Camus
    Heidegger
    Wittgenstein

    they are all IEI

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    George Lucas would be the same mbti as Nietzsche, but in socionics, Nietzsche is enfj. This aurora of wishes and plain sight devoured model ascribed Pikachu mud jiggles and wields a sharpie that makes all of reality and imagination painted differently, improved by philosophy. If we rise from the densities of a fallen state, and grab hold of the highest possibilities, then existence is shattered and holographic in molding, like Mew/Bunny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coin View Post
    I'll start:
    diogenes - SLE
    plato - IEI
    nietzsche - ILI or LIE
    alan watts - SEE?
    kierkegaard - delta?
    I don't get how Plato, who made a very rigid and can only be broken by an SLx like Diogenes of Sinope, being an IEI.
    Kierkegaard is EII, Nietszche IEI isn't that bad, but LIE actually makes sense although I think EIE instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    Controversial opinion

    Aristoteles
    Sokrates
    Platon
    Schopenhauer
    Nietzsche
    Hegel
    Kierkegaard
    Sartre
    Camus
    Heidegger
    Wittgenstein

    they are all IEI
    Very controversial since all of them might just be Te or Ti-ego.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Existential Ibuprofen View Post
    I think most philosophers are ILI's (and mb some EIE's).

    It is like my go to place when I'm too stressed out for being too constricted - to construct world ending philosophies (yes, that stuff is too easy for me to grasp it and get tangled).
    Need to get hell outta there.

    If they look for purposeful application to life it favors dynamic Ni valuing orientation with non vulnerable Te that is subservient to something else this effectively leaves ILI and EIE on the table.

    Anyway:
    Nietzsche constructed Übermensch which resembles LSI. EIE.
    Gilles Deleuze, tell me about his type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deductive View Post
    Very controversial since all of them might just be Te or Ti-ego.
    what makes you think that? the most philosophical function, the function that reflects on the meaning of life, is pretty much Ni. a lot of philosophers reflect a lot on ethical principles,an ideal that other people should strive for in their behaviour. I think that Ni and Fi as strongest function, which are the most important 4-dimensional functions of IEI, makes sense for most of them, especially since they have Ti as activating function, and the hidden agenda "to understand"

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    Alot of philosophers seem to have been beta.

    Philosophy is a very Ni-Ti thing.


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    Well, by that logic, every philosopher is IEI since I really don't think so.
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    Default ILIs are often, very much Philosophers.

    Quote Originally Posted by WVBRY View Post
    Alot of philosophers seem to have been beta.

    Philosophy is a very Ni-Ti thing.
    It very much is. There seems to be a discrepancy in the understanding of what an ILI is among the socionics community. Many Modern Physicists and Philosophers are strangely mistyped as ILE/LII which does not logically follow the type descriptions offered by traditional socionics websites. We seem to have forgotten this:

    For those who think ILIs are not inclined to be philosophers:


    “Introverted intuition in ILIs is predominantly characterized by well developed imaginative abilities and mental wanderings”


    “ILI often spend a great deal of time simply thinking and may spend excessive amounts of time in their mind. Most ILIs somehow manage to spend most of their time in their minds regardless of the responsibilities with which they are burdened.”


    “ILIs are often stereotypically represented as reclusive scholars, philosophers, scientists, artists, seers, and sages.”


    “The mind of an ILI is an oasis of sorts where knowledge is treated as a toy or even a vehicle that allows them to visit complex mental landscapes that are shaped and continually revised by new information.”



    —sociotype.com


    Also develop a taste toward humanitarian areas – i.e. philosophy, art.


    —Filatova Description


    For those who think ILIs are pragmatic goal pursuers:


    “ILIs may not directly associate their knowledge with any given purpose rather than to further their own understanding. They are also not very proactive at getting things done in the real world.”


    “very little attention is likely to be paid to such tasks as household maintenance or cleanliness, which the ILI sees as trivial matters not deserving of his time or effort.”


    —sociotype.com


    “The volitional qualities of people of this type manifest a bi-polar nature: some individuals display an enviable sense of purpose, stubbornness and perseverance, while others, to the contrary, demonstrate complete inertia and paralysis of their will.”

    —Filatova Description

    I could create a greater variety of sources as well, however I would do so from Intertype relations so the relevance may not be comprehended by most. That said, I left it to this.
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    Diogenes SLE
    Plato LII
    Nietzsche ILI
    Camus IEI
    Kierkegaard EII
    Wittgenstein LSI
    Kant LII
    Descartes LII
    Foucault ILE
    Sartre ILE

    most others are LIIs, LII is a big sociotype among philosophers, and most of them are in general introverted function leading, for some reason.

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    philosophy is mainly Ti, but Te can sometimes do it too.

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