On the Relationship Between Si and Food

[AWellArmedCat]

So this came up in the chatbox earlier as people were talking about diets, stress-eating, etc., and my curiosity was piqued. I would like to know more about how the position of Si impacts one's relationship with food. As I have stated before, I came from MBTI-land not terribly long ago and may still hold some misconceptions about how Socionics treats some of the information elements, and as I think is pretty common for a lot of people, the irrational elements require a little more effort to understand completely. Is the position of Si in the psyche likely to influence the frequency of eating, likelihood of over-eating, tendency to under-eat, and other associated behaviours?

I believe myself to be Si-role (this is because I think that I am IEI in Socionics), and I am very prone to forgetting to eat or just not having much of an appetite because stress makes me feel queasy. I often find myself not realizing that I am particularly hungry until someone "reminds me" and then suddenly I'll realize I need to eat something and feel super hungry. It's like the signaling is either very weak or else just easily overridden by other things for me. I also am very aware that I do this and tend to compensate by being very careful to never eat out for two meals in a row, and pay attention to the diversity of foods that I'm eating. I actually really enjoy cooking too (especially when I'm high) as it's a creative outlet for me. I have been chronically underweight since birth and apparently the doctors told my mom to feed me some sort of special formula when I was young cause they were concerned about my weight. I think it's just genetic though. My mom who I believe to be ESE is very petite at under 100 pounds. My dad, who I believe to be SEI, was over 220 when I was younger but has since tried really hard to diet and exercise often and is at 180ish now. I think he's pretty "normal" as far as build goes. At least compared to my mom and I.

In reading about Socionics I've gotten the impression that a lot of people believe Si -> more weight, but is this necessarily the case? From my perspective, assuming my typings of my parents are correct, it looks as though two Si ego types can easily vary drastically in this regard. What do y'all think? What is the relationship between Si, eating, body build, and all that jazz? Additional comments about Si not directly related to the topic are also welcome. I feel it's the function MBTI does the least justice and I want to understand it better

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[CR400AF]

Jungian typologies are cognitive instead of behaviorism. So don't relate it simply with a behavior.

Jung's Si = Socionic Si.

[AWellArmedCat]

@CR400AF Thanks! This is very helpful!!

[Tallmo]

Jungian typologies are cognitive instead of behaviorism. So don't relate it simply with a behavior.

For an in-depth review of Si I'd recommend this post: What is Si? A united thereotical perspective | Personality Cafe

It's not solely based on Socionic terms, however it's indeed that same. Jung's Si = Socionic Si.

A note to the post: In Socionics, introversion is defined as relationship-oriented, which is a bit different than Jung. However, they are indeed essentially the same. The difference is that Jung's term is introvert-biased while Aushra's term is more neutral.

That "in-depth review on Si" was really painful to read. He has read Jung but he hasn't understood him. The text is full of misunderstandings and irrelevant things such as talking about "rituals". There is no point in trying to unify mbti and Jung since mbti has totally misunderstood Jung a long time ago. But he assumes that mbti is correct (it isn't).

Jung's description of Si is outstanding but it's almost impossible to understand unless you personally experience what Si is.

I agree with you though that Jung and Socionics Si is the same thing.

[CR400AF]

That "in-depth review on Si" was really painful to read. He has read Jung but he hasn't understood him. The text is full of misunderstandings and irrelevant things such as talking about "rituals". There is no point in trying to unify mbti and Jung since mbti has totally misunderstood Jung a long time ago. But he assumes that mbti is correct (it isn't).

Thanks for pointing out. I also agree that MBTI is not correct. It seems that Si and Ne in MBTI becomes to conflicted functions while have opposite values so that system is not working.

I am not a Si ego so I acknowledge that I don't really understand how Si is working. Recently someone in a Chinese MBTI communities claim that MBTI Si/Se = Jung's Si/Se while Socionics misunderstood Jung and changed the definitions so I found that post as it tries to explain that Socionics' = Jung's.

As for the ritual thing I agree that it's kind of MBTI stereotype and it shouldn't be connected to Si. I think he also believed that MBTI is wrong but he did connected Si with MBTI stereotypes in that post so that's a problem of that post. Also I think Jung's definition of introversion is exactly the same as Aushra's definition. But I don't understand how Si is working so I think I have to try to read more post by Si-egos.

[Tallmo]

Thanks for pointing out. I also agree that MBTI is not correct. It seems that Si and Ne in MBTI becomes to conflicted functions while have opposite values so that system is not working.

I am not a Si ego so I acknowledge that I don't really understand how Si is working. Recently someone in a Chinese MBTI communities claim that MBTI Si/Se = Jung's Si/Se while Socionics misunderstood Jung and changed the definitions so I found that post as it tries to explain that Socionics' = Jung's.

As for the ritual thing I agree that it's kind of MBTI stereotype and it shouldn't be connected to Si. I think he also believed that MBTI is wrong but he did connected Si with MBTI stereotypes in that post so that's a problem of that post. Also I think Jung's definition of introversion is exactly the same as Aushra's definition. But I don't understand how Si is working so I think I have to try to read more post by Si-egos.

Well Si is not that hard to understand. The person senses inner impressions from the environment and the body. It's like sensing things "from within". When he sees an object he immediately focuses on the inner sensations that develop. He perceives the environment as a little more "soulful" or "deeper" than a normal person. These sensations ultimately come from the unconscious (just like Ni), but he sees them in the object.

These sensations are just part of the psyche, and are of course rooted in our evolutionary past.

But I would never have become aware of this, if I hadn't read Jung. It's hard to see something when you're standing in the middle of it.

[myresearch]

@Tallmo

I know this isn't about Si, it is about Ni, but I wanted to ask because I want to know how Si ego operates in this manner.

Do you have a mental visual imaginary?

For example, when you or others talk, do you get different kind of visuals that symbolize what has been said or done, etc or when you listen to some music, do you have have these kind of flashes or scenes without an effort?

Do you create imaginary worlds in your head?

[CR400AF]

These sensations are just part of the psyche, and are of course rooted in our evolutionary past.

But I would never have become aware of this, if I hadn't read Jung. It's hard to see something when you're standing in the middle of it.

It seems that it's a key point that it's rooted in the evolution.

[Poptart]

Si does not equal more weight because over eating is uncomfortable and being fat is uncomfortable.

There are fat and skinny people of all types. I’m pretty sure that all of these people claiming to know only fat Si egos are experiencing major confirmation bias.

I also forget to eat when I’m busy. I believe that’s less of an intuitive thing and more of a human thing.

[AWellArmedCat]

@Poptart Yeah I don't feel this is a stereotype in the MBTI community, but I've run into this idea a lot since moving to Socionics. I wondered if it was just one of those persistent myths or if I was genuinely not understanding something. Most of my extended family I had typed as Alphas and Deltas yet there's plenty of variety in body type I feel

[Dangerouslandsvape]

I have Si demonstrative. First of all, my career is in cooking food. I enjoy it (and the process of cooking) enough that I'm willing to prepare it/think about it for hours out of every day.

For me, food is divided into two things: the joy of eating something lovely, and the fact that food/nutrients are required to survive. In regards to myself, most of my focus is on the second one. I don't mind eating the same thing for a week straight as long as it's reasonably tasty and healthy. I'm quite fit (into bodybuilding/lifting weights and lead an active life) so I pay a fair amount of attention to the health of food. I don't count calories or anything like that, though. If I'm getting fatter than I want, I eat less. If I can spare to pack on some pounds, I eat more. I generally eat 1-2 times a day, depending on work, whether I exercise, and what I plan on eating. The fast doesn't bother me.

Sometimes I'll invest a lot of effort into a meal, or I'll go out to eat something scrumptious. Going out to eat is more about tasting things than eating to get full (though I often get very full).

[Aster]

I pretty much eat the same things every day. I’ve never cared that much about food when younger. I was really skinny when I was younger and my mom said I ate like a bird. I was just busy thinking about other things. However, after 4 kids and being in my mid 30’s, I will say, I notice the more I weigh, the more I seem to crave food. The less I weigh, the less I crave it. I think if you had bad eating habits from a young age, they might be pretty hard to change.

 

Personally, when I was around 13-ish, I started thinking my face looked fat. I became really self conscious about it. I remember eating chip dip and seeing how fattening it was, and then I stopped with the junk food. In my teens I barely ate. Honestly didn’t THINK about it that much back then. But occasionally I’d crave something like cheez it’s (junk food has always been a no no for me) and put cheezits in my mouth and spit it out. Felt like I was being clever and beating the system because I got to taste it, but what was the point in eating something unhealthy anyway?

 

Anyway, I gained maybe a few lbs in college with my boyfriend/now husband, because we’d eat out a lot as something to do. As he says to me, “I take you places and you don’t eat, you just want to go somewhere” but I mean, I did eat. A little bit lol


Gaining weight when I was pregnant and then loosing was the hardest the first and second time, because I never had to lose that much before. I had to research how to do it. And I became a bit obsessive about it after my second kid. I was literally tracking my calories, weighing myself every morning, eating the same thing every day. It became like a game, a competition. I swear I got some kind of high off of it. You get a ton of energy. Eating to me became a game...eating healthy (no junk) mainly because it was lower fat and I could get more energy, and maintain a certain weight (107lbs). It was a game of control. Sometimes I’d fall off the horse and gain a few, but as soon as I started feeling badly about myself, it was game on. You could call this an eating disorder, I suppose. But I never tried starving myself to death, so no one really interferes.


But I think about food a lot. I’m a bit obsessed with cookies at the moment. I’ll get a food on my mind, like subway, and think and think about it until I get it. It’s what happens when you restrict yourself. You become obsessed with food


Anyway, my point is. All of this is really damn complicated and if you are judging by behavior or weight, it can fluctuate a lot.


I noticed people that have high Si seem to notice nuances in food that I don’t. They seem to care how good their food is or whether it’s burnt (I don’t). I’m more of an eat to survive person. I’ll eat a ton of gross shit given it’s low fat and healthy. And I hate to cook. I hate spending money on food. And I hate cleaning up the mess. I just don’t feel like it’s worth to prepare a big meal and then you eat it pretty fast. Seems like a waste of time. But I do enjoy going out to eat, mainly for the experience, getting out of the house, seeing new places, being around people. I mean, I’ll try about any new food, but I’m not actively seeking it out and it’s not that important to me. But restricting myself for so long can make me kind of obsessive about certain foods
for a period (like I need a pizza so bad, I’m just going to eat it and get it over with so I can get on with my life and back on the horse )

I used to forget to eat when I was younger or busier (and I agree, anyone can), but the older I get and the more I stay at home, not eating or thinking about it seems harder. But I think about everyone is like that really.

[Sol]

Si is about evaluation of pleasant for you sensations. food is a kind of such pleasure

read Jung's and Filatova's books

[Poptart]

Si is about evaluation of pleasant for you sensations. food is a kind of such pleasure

read Jung's and Filatova's books

Eating massive amounts of food might be a pleasure for you, but I think the key word here is evaluation. Si does not eat indiscriminately.

I’ve always been an extremely picky eater. I don’t eat for fun. I can eat the same thing every day and not get bored. I literally ate the same salad from Trader Joe’s nearly every day for a year and a half and only stopped after I moved across town (it became less convenient to pick up).

[jason_m]

There is a pattern to my diet:

I am now overweight, but when I was skinny in university, I still loved my food. I would eat small meals and small portions, but I would savour what I eat, even if it was something as simple as a TV dinner.

Now, even though I'm overweight, I focus much more on vegetarian food and healthy food. I would say that about half of my diet is vegetarian - and I do it for ethical reasons. I would say about a third to half is really healthy. The other remaining part of my diet is just food that I enjoy. The meals that are healthy or vegetarian, I try to enjoy, but the remaining part that I pick out, I savour. I guess I can be a real 'gourmand.'

[Stray Cat]

Got family members with Si-ego. They're detailed about food. The temperature is important, not so much the nutritional aspects. It's personalized & isn't unusual for the to carry particular foods from the past & place great importance on them

[The Reality Denialist]

To me it seems like Si egos do not really hve any sort of rituals around food. I think gammas and betas have it much more. I had Si ego parents and we didn't have any sort of specific dinner time or even get together. It was like mb you should eat and we have food so stuff it in your pie hole when you have time.

[Ave]

To me it seems like Si egos do not really hve any sort of rituals around food. I think gammas and betas have it much more. I had Si ego parents and we didn't have any sort of specific dinner time or even get together. It was like mb you should eat and we have food so stuff it in your pie hole when you have time.

In my experience beta and gamma can have pretty strong rituals around food and meals. Alphas sometimes have it too. Deltas never seemed to care much.

[The Reality Denialist]

In my experience beta and gamma can have pretty strong rituals around food and meals. Alphas sometimes have it too. Deltas never seemed to care much.

I can only recall social rituals and those usually involve food or those are rather easy to build around it. Yeah, but I think Si valuers due to lack of ritual ceremonies around food may end up consuming food too much.

[jason_m]

To me it seems like Si egos do not really hve any sort of rituals around food. I think gammas and betas have it much more. I had Si ego parents and we didn't have any sort of specific dinner time or even get together. It was like mb you should eat and we have food so stuff it in your pie hole when you have time.

That sounds like me and my parents; food is simply in the fridge, just prepare it when you want to eat. And I sometimes eat something nice at 2 AM if it suits me. Sleep is the same way. I sometimes go to bed early, other nights I go to sleep at 4 AM.

[myresearch]

@BrightDemonSheep96 , @jason_m

Are your parents rational or irrational?

Haven't you had meals together when you were child and everyone was at home?

Doesn't it take too much time and dishes to cook the same meal for seperate people since the meal has to be cooked at different times?

[jason_m]

1) My mom is ESI, my dad IEE.
2) We used to eat together, but when I became an adult, we stopped doing this. (My dad was usually at work and not at home anyway...)
3) My mom just cooks one meal per weekday. Me and my dad reheat it separately. On weekends, we eat out and eat together for dinner. For the other meals, we have to fend for ourselves.

[The Reality Denialist]

@myresearch

Well, around the time when mother died and our family got some help. It was just noted that we seemed to operate in very autonomous manner and we had somewhat ad hoc solutions when it was needed (low respect for guidance or help, focus on improvisation) and we still do...lol.

Are your parents rational or irrational?

Dad mb creative sub and irrational. I'm not sure of my mother and I'll never be.

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

I don't know- I think Si being related to food is kind of like this ultra crude very vague stereotype - like a gay guy will always know how to decorate your living room, or black people like watermelon etc.

I view Si as more like your levels of internal psychological comfort with people. Si polrs usually come off abrasive and like they don't care how comfortable they're really making anybody else. LIE it's like hammering you to buy a product u don't really need to make them stronger and you weaker with a Fe role snake oil smile and with EIE it's like 'Haha breeder, I'm a drag queen with a unicorn on my head.'

There is a lot of positive side to Si polr though. I think you can get a lot of stuff done being oblivious/not caring about harmony with others. In theory a SEI can not care at all but also be incredibly manipulative as that is more their ego.

Well IEI's Si is 2D so it means I so-so care about my internal comfort/harmony with others which makes sense to me.

It relates to food on how it's presented, I think. I will kinda half-heartedly awkwardly ask anybody if they would like a glass of water- but my ESE mom will kind of shove it up your anus even if you said you didn't want any. Usually followed by a "Are you sure?" after they were clearly told no. Because you are so ultra confident in your ego function. So when it's immediately turned down- it's very common to be like 'No wait- NO . I must hit you with this!' Don't mean to pick on ESEs tho - we are all like that with our very strong 4D lead function.

[The Reality Denialist]

@Tallmo
I think this encapsulates Si
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/suuri...ely-shore.html

Right?

[Tallmo]

@Tallmo
I think this encapsulates Si
https://lyricstranslate.com/en/suuri...ely-shore.html

Right?

Hmm. I think that poem sounds more Fi, or sentimental

[The Reality Denialist]

Hmm. I think that poem sounds more Fi, or sentimental

Yes, it is introverted but seems less static because it lives in the moment and makes no division.

[Tallmo]

Yes, it is introverted but seems less static because it lives in the moment and makes no division.

I read the poem again.

Maybe Ni intuitions evoked from the environment. Si would be the pure sensations with a certain "mood" in them but without the deeper meaning that is expressed in this poem.

In a way one can say that Ni can be used to refer to Si. You just have to subtract the symbolism.

[FreelancePoliceman]

I read the poem again.

Maybe Ni intuitions evoked from the environment. Si would be the pure sensations with a certain "mood" in them but without the deeper meaning that is expressed in this poem.

In a way one can say that Ni can be used to refer to Si. You just have to subtract the symbolism.

Tallmo, I've been thinking lately about Si, and it seems to me that Ne egos experience it something like this, through a somewhat intuitive filter which Si people don't have. It's difficult for me to explain the feeling, but I would guess that poem would speak to most Ne people's somewhat distorted and weak experience of it, even if actual Si people wouldn't agree. Basically I'm saying that I think I see what BDS96 is seeing when he associates the song with Si.

[SlytherinPower]

I'm the most willing to try new foods out of my family members. Stress makes me lose my appetite completely. After a 2 hour gym workout (cardio + machines/weights) I'm ready to chew someone's arm off. I'm still wondering how people stay well hydrated cuz I love coffee/energy drinks/pre workout drinks & how do you drink lots of water on top of that without running to the bathroom every 15 minutes? I'm still trying to get more consistent with my eating cuz I prolly go from eating 300 calories one day to 3000 the next. I've stayed within 100-115 lbs for the last 10 years.

[Ocean Man]

So this came up in the chatbox earlier as people were talking about diets, stress-eating, etc., and my curiosity was piqued. I would like to know more about how the position of Si impacts one's relationship with food. As I have stated before, I came from MBTI-land not terribly long ago and may still hold some misconceptions about how Socionics treats some of the information elements, and as I think is pretty common for a lot of people, the irrational elements require a little more effort to understand completely. Is the position of Si in the psyche likely to influence the frequency of eating, likelihood of over-eating, tendency to under-eat, and other associated behaviours?

I believe myself to be Si-role (this is because I think that I am IEI in Socionics), and I am very prone to forgetting to eat or just not having much of an appetite because stress makes me feel queasy. I often find myself not realizing that I am particularly hungry until someone "reminds me" and then suddenly I'll realize I need to eat something and feel super hungry. It's like the signaling is either very weak or else just easily overridden by other things for me. I also am very aware that I do this and tend to compensate by being very careful to never eat out for two meals in a row, and pay attention to the diversity of foods that I'm eating. I actually really enjoy cooking too (especially when I'm high) as it's a creative outlet for me. I have been chronically underweight since birth and apparently the doctors told my mom to feed me some sort of special formula when I was young cause they were concerned about my weight. I think it's just genetic though. My mom who I believe to be ESE is very petite at under 100 pounds. My dad, who I believe to be SEI, was over 220 when I was younger but has since tried really hard to diet and exercise often and is at 180ish now. I think he's pretty "normal" as far as build goes. At least compared to my mom and I.

In reading about Socionics I've gotten the impression that a lot of people believe Si -> more weight, but is this necessarily the case? From my perspective, assuming my typings of my parents are correct, it looks as though two Si ego types can easily vary drastically in this regard. What do y'all think? What is the relationship between Si, eating, body build, and all that jazz? Additional comments about Si not directly related to the topic are also welcome. I feel it's the function MBTI does the least justice and I want to understand it better

よろしくお願いします！！

You've described Si PoLR/Brake and the attributes of a Process type (IEI is a Results type), thus you are most likely EIE describing your PoLR/Brake Function.

[AWellArmedCat]

You've described Si PoLR/Brake and the attributes of a Process type (IEI is a Results type), thus you are most likely EIE describing your PoLR/Brake Function.

Though this alone isn't enough to convince me I'm not IEI-Fe, I'll keep this in mind. If I'm not IEI, then I'd definitely consider EIE the next best typing. I suppose I'd probably be EIE-Ni if I were EIE? Feel free to keep the observations coming. I appreciate the input.

Perhaps I should just bite the bullet and upload a type-me video finally. I've made one a few times, but didn't like how they turned out so I never posted them

[Ocean Man]

Though this alone isn't enough to convince me I'm not IEI-Fe, I'll keep this in mind. If I'm not IEI, then I'd definitely consider EIE the next best typing. I suppose I'd probably be EIE-Ni if I were EIE? Feel free to keep the observations coming. I appreciate the input.

Perhaps I should just bite the bullet and upload a type-me video finally. I've made one a few times, but didn't like how they turned out so I never posted them

Yes, EIE-Ni (EIE-H or EIE-N) is a better fit for you. You are hung up on the process, self-critical, open to more data, external opinions from acquaintances - this does not fit IEI or Result (it also corresponds to DA Cognition, not VS, and most importantly the Process dichotomy in the Socionics system). It also rules out IEE.


There are many other intangible tells from your natural behavior. To me, it's clear what your type is (between the two most likely types, IEI and EIE) and no public video is needed (especially when it jeopardizes privacy). Alternatively, you could get an opinion from VG.

[AWellArmedCat]

Yes, EIE-Ni (EIE-H or EIE-N) is a better fit for you. You are hung up on the process, self-critical, open to more data, external opinions from acquaintances - this does not fit IEI or Result (it also corresponds to DA Cognition, not VS, and most importantly the Process dichotomy in the Socionics system). It also rules out IEE.


There are many other intangible tells from your natural behavior. To me, it's clear what your type is (between the two most likely types, IEI and EIE) and no public video is needed (especially when it jeopardizes privacy). Alternatively, you could get an opinion from VG.

Ooo I like this a LOT! You seem to really know what you're talking about, and thinking of myself as EIE seems to clear up a bunch of things about Socionics I was struggling to understand. I'm going to spend some more time mulling it over, but I think you are very likely onto something. The only thing that stands out as immediately questionable to me though is that I don't really feel like my relationship with SLIs is a conflict relationship. My SLI aunt is one of my IRL Socionics buddies, and I get along with her great. I tend to clash with LSEs mostly

I've already uploaded pics of myself before, so I'm not terribly worried about a video. I kept recording it, rewatching it two or three times, and finding one or two little details that grated on me so I'd delete it. I may be posting a Type Me before long

Thank you again for your input. It sounds almost like you've taken classes in Socionics before

[Ocean Man]

Ooo I like this a LOT! You seem to really know what you're talking about, and thinking of myself as EIE seems to clear up a bunch of things about Socionics I was struggling to understand. I'm going to spend some more time mulling it over, but I think you are very likely onto something. The only thing that stands out as immediately questionable to me though is that I don't really feel like my relationship with SLIs is a conflict relationship. My SLI aunt is one of my IRL Socionics buddies, and I get along with her great. I tend to clash with LSEs mostly

I've already uploaded pics of myself before, so I'm not terribly worried about a video. I kept recording it, rewatching it two or three times, and finding one or two little details that grated on me so I'd delete it. I may be posting a Type Me before long

Thank you again for your input. It sounds almost like you've taken classes in Socionics before

You're very welcome. Yes, Process is a more complex psyche so it is also more natively sensitive to details, errors etc. Result is the opposite. Definitely check out Wikisocion for data on those dichotomies, and cognitive styles - that information should still be useable to a large degree.

[Alomoes]

So this came up in the chatbox earlier as people were talking about diets, stress-eating, etc., and my curiosity was piqued. I would like to know more about how the position of Si impacts one's relationship with food. As I have stated before, I came from MBTI-land not terribly long ago and may still hold some misconceptions about how Socionics treats some of the information elements, and as I think is pretty common for a lot of people, the irrational elements require a little more effort to understand completely. Is the position of Si in the psyche likely to influence the frequency of eating, likelihood of over-eating, tendency to under-eat, and other associated behaviours?

I believe myself to be Si-role (this is because I think that I am IEI in Socionics), and I am very prone to forgetting to eat or just not having much of an appetite because stress makes me feel queasy. I often find myself not realizing that I am particularly hungry until someone "reminds me" and then suddenly I'll realize I need to eat something and feel super hungry. It's like the signaling is either very weak or else just easily overridden by other things for me. I also am very aware that I do this and tend to compensate by being very careful to never eat out for two meals in a row, and pay attention to the diversity of foods that I'm eating. I actually really enjoy cooking too (especially when I'm high) as it's a creative outlet for me. I have been chronically underweight since birth and apparently the doctors told my mom to feed me some sort of special formula when I was young cause they were concerned about my weight. I think it's just genetic though. My mom who I believe to be ESE is very petite at under 100 pounds. My dad, who I believe to be SEI, was over 220 when I was younger but has since tried really hard to diet and exercise often and is at 180ish now. I think he's pretty "normal" as far as build goes. At least compared to my mom and I.

In reading about Socionics I've gotten the impression that a lot of people believe Si -> more weight, but is this necessarily the case? From my perspective, assuming my typings of my parents are correct, it looks as though two Si ego types can easily vary drastically in this regard. What do y'all think? What is the relationship between Si, eating, body build, and all that jazz? Additional comments about Si not directly related to the topic are also welcome. I feel it's the function MBTI does the least justice and I want to understand it better

よろしくお願いします！！

Yeah forgetting to eat is entirely an Si-Role or whatever thing. Eating cardboard is entirely an Se role or whatever thing. You're bad at Se if you eat rice and bread dry without any salt or pepper.

You're bad at Si if you go 2 days without eating because you forgot to go to the store and it rained. I have done that by the way. I am basing that on myself. My aunt surprisingly didn't complain much.

[Lord Pixel]

I know 2 many LSE's that are very particular about their food, don't like to try your food suggestions, strongly like what they like and strongly dislike what they don't, SLI also, not up for trying new foods. New places, but same orders lol.

[Toro]

Si is subjectivized impressions of external sensory data. Pi functions are one of the most complex ideas in socionics.

Taste, texture, smell, color, all these things have Se qualities but are also absorbed internally and related to an internal pattern.



Here, the dish becomes more than the sum of its parts in part because of the subjective experience of the critic. He isn't just tasting what he is tasting, but also comparing it to similar sensations he experienced at the same time.

[on a peaceful hiatus]

there seems to be a certain tendency for weak Si types to not eat regularily. I often forget to eat when I'm thinking a lot or I am busy and I generally have to pay attention to not lose too much weight in a short amount of time. on the other hand I have also seen low Si types who are obese and addicted to sweets or bad food like frozen pizza. the meals I cook are rather basic and I don't care much how they taste, but then you have some IEI who treat cooking like some form of art, adding the most exotic spices etc. the Si base types I interact with at work generally care a lot about how something tastes, and they are open to try something out that they don't know, although they generally seem to be sceptical at first.

I think that Si is more about being in tune with your body and understanding how it works. like low Si types ignore when their belly growls because they are hungry, or they think a minor cold could be some form of cancer because they don't understand the signals their body gives them. caregivers are probably the best doctors, nurses etc. when it's about caring for a patient, or taking care of old people and cleaning them etc. normalizing subtypes are probably better at these things too since they have accentuated Si.

AWellArmedCat seems IEI.

oh, and I also see Si PolR types as the kind of people who do meal prep for fitness, like eating the same meal over and over again throughout the week

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qylcQJ03AA

[AWellArmedCat]

but then you have some IEI who treat cooking like some form of art, adding the most exotic spices etc.

For me I fall into and out of cooking all the time. Like I'll do nothing but skip a bunch of meals and eat out for three weeks in a row, then I'll decide cooking is fun and make something new for every meal for an entire week. Then I'll get creatively burnt out with cooking, and go back to barely surviving off of whatever is at the konbini and occasionally splurging when out with friends on the weekend. I do love cooking and I like to make fancy dishes to bring to potlucks, but I'm just very inconsistent with it