Andrei Sakharov, cosmologist/political activist/nobel peace prize winner
Vojislav Kostunica, Lawyer, Yugoslavian president,Serbian prime minister
Girolamo Savonarola, preacher, ruler of Florence
Andrei Sakharov, cosmologist/political activist/nobel peace prize winner
Vojislav Kostunica, Lawyer, Yugoslavian president,Serbian prime minister
Girolamo Savonarola, preacher, ruler of Florence
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I agree with you, on average INTJ don't give me the impression of revolutionaries in a political sense, but perhaps they are ideological revolutionaries?
Is ideology Ti or Ni in your opinion?
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If revolutionary was only meant in the political sense, it would be too narrow to be applicable to a type. So when talking about LII being revolutionaries, it would almost have to be ideological revolutionaries. There are of course LII political revolutionaries, noteably Robespierre and Jefferson, but even in those political realms, they considered themselves to be more like ideological revolutionaries.
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Well you seem to have an expanded view of ideology. I meant it as in "revolutionaries in the field of ideas". What did you have in mind?
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I'd say any judging function can be called an ideology. Many of the connotations of the word fit best to accepting Ti. Suggesting that Ni = ideology, is just wrong.Originally Posted by Dioklecian
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i would have to disagree. not to say that only Ni types can have ideologies, but ideology and intuition are very much linked.Originally Posted by Smilingeyes
Of course they're linked. Judging and perceiving functions are linked quite tightly. Thing is, if you observe something without making decisions, it's not ideology. It's an idea. There's a difference. See the -logy suffix? A connection to logos, logic, qualification of subject matter by deciding to call it with a certain name. And Ni types, do in fact have the possibility of using a judging function. And yes, intuition does, by its actions cause the birth of ideologies, but at that point the analysis of the subject matter ceases to be in the sphere of the intuitive function, only to enter it once again, when one starts to think about the possible results of using said ideology in practice and it's effects to the world at large. If you cease to use this distinction, you can pretty much throw away the whole concepts of judging and perceiving functions.Originally Posted by niffweed17
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