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    I'm supposing a depressed ILI, but I can see a LIE with low functioning Te.
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    Honestly I think it could happen to any type. Of course, there are commonalities like mental illness, addictions, etc.. But it takes only one tragic event and someone can spiral downwards to the point of no return.

    Almost happened to me once; I had to write jokes for cash on craigslist as a result but I pulled myself out

    If I had to choose I'd probably pick IEI because of weak Te/Se, but I'm sure their Ni would help them thrive with a lack of resources or they'd befriend some hobo hipsters to help out

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    Alpha ethicals. When I was in the soup kitchen before they mostly seemed like alpha SFs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    a LIE with low functioning Te.
    or dry water
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    People with no money.
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    People with no money.
    And an unwillingness or inability to provide goods or services in exchange for shelter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    And an unwillingness or inability to provide goods or services in exchange for shelter.
    wait, so when people stand at the corner of the intersection and walk around looking pathetic and people give them tax free money and then they go to their expensive car and drive home when they feel like it,
    what service or good are those people providing?
    I guess they make suckers feel good about giving their money away? Does that count as a service?
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    Someone who’s used to having money and then not having it anymore.

    One of my bestie’s roommates is named Nicole and her parents are millionaires who cut her off and refuse to give her any money. She’s had a hard time making ends meet, her car got repo’ed, she’s short on rent every month and she already has cheap rent to begin with. Now the landlord is gearing up to sell the house and everyone in the house including my bestie have money to move except her. She’ll be homeless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lolita View Post
    Someone who’s used to having money and then not having it anymore.

    One of my bestie’s roommates is named Nicole and her parents are millionaires who cut her off and refuse to give her any money. She’s had a hard time making ends meet, her car got repo’ed, she’s short on rent every month and she already has cheap rent to begin with. Now the landlord is gearing up to sell the house and everyone in the house including my bestie have money to move except her. She’ll be homeless.
    She may have to depend on the kindness of strangers.

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    I doubt it. She can always rely on her gf.

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    The type that ends up homeless is generally the unhealthy type. Who's most likely to be unhealthy? I don't know, it's a dumb question that relies on circumstances.
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    I would say honestly it's probably as equal distribution as the housed population. A lot of different circumstances and mental health issues can contribute to homelessness, and at least from the homeless people I've met, it could really be anybody. Sort of a "there but for the grace of god go I" kind of thing more people should probably be thankful for.

    If you REALLY want to dissect it, I could see low Ni or Ne not having thought through any back-up plans, low Te not having access to or knowing what resources to use, etc. But that's really splitting hairs.

    There's also an interesting phenomenon, at least in certain parts of LA, where I'd meet people who insisted they liked being homeless. That they enjoyed the freedom and didn't mind not having a place to go at night. Maybe that might be tied to unvalued or low Si, not caring if they don't even have a bed and a pillow? Either way, those people all had really sad circumstances that, once you got to talking to them, would make you realize that perhaps it wasn't as much of a choice as they'd insist it was.
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    The type that does meth.

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    If ESI is the type most anxious about these sorts of mishaps. I would say the answer is LIE or ILE.
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    harmonizing subtypes

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    All my life, I've worried that financial disaster for me was just around the corner. I've never worried about being homeless, but I've always worried that I wouldn't have enough money to support my projects. That the money would stop coming in and my reserves would quickly be exhausted and then what would I do? The mental process that runs my future projections just trips its circuit breakers at this point, and this is the point where the monster in the horror movies jumps out at me.

    I actually ran out of money once before, just after I bought my first house and then lost my job and all my savings. I ended up with $100 to my name and a mortgage payment that was impossible. I tried to take on renters for more income and stopped spending anything at all on anything at all. I spent a year and a half being more broke than I imagined anyone could be, and I could not get a better job to save my life. I had no assets and a negative net worth. I did have a life insurance policy.

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    I eventually found a better job, kicked out my derelict renters and got back on solid financial ground, but I've always retained the fear that I'm three months away from homelessness.

    In all the intervening years since then, I've just added to my level of "stuff" (houses, land, investments, art works), so you'd think, and I do sometimes, that I'm free of that danger. But then I think, "The moment when you think you're safe, Adam, is exactly when disaster will strike."

    Which is magical thinking, not based on either logic nor experience. Bad, magical thinking.
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    You should ask: "Which type is going to suffer the most when they become homeless?" instead

    Normally, I'm a very passive guy. But I'm always prepare for the worst. When it comes to "fighting for survival", I'm extremely agressive.
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    As someone who has spent a lot of time with homeless people, I've observed a variety of types experience homelessness and believe that the distribution of types reflects among the homeless population reflects that of the general population.



    I knew an ILE homeless man who spent his days dumpster diving for items that he would resell or use to barter for money and drugs. I have an SEI friend who earns money by “flying her sign” at the same corner of an upscale neighborhood everyday. I know EII homeless man who spends his free time hanging out at the public library. I met an SEE homeless woman who had talked a shopkeeper into letting her and her boyfriend establish residency right outside his shop. I’ve also encountered homeless people who were so catatonic (a result of schizophrenia) that they would be impossible to type.


    People experiencing homelessness all have a couple of things in common. First, they’re almost always battling drug/alcohol addiction, severe mental illness, a physical disability, or some combination of the three. Secondly, they often lack a safety net of support from family and/or friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poptart View Post
    As someone who has spent a lot of time with homeless people, I've observed a variety of types experience homelessness and believe that the distribution of types reflects among the homeless population reflects that of the general population.



    I knew an ILE homeless man who spent his days dumpster diving for items that he would resell or use to barter for money and drugs. I have an SEI friend who earns money by “flying her sign” at the same corner of an upscale neighborhood everyday. I know EII homeless man who spends his free time hanging out at the public library. I met an SEE homeless woman who had talked a shopkeeper into letting her and her boyfriend establish residency right outside his shop. I’ve also encountered homeless people who were so catatonic (a result of schizophrenia) that they would be impossible to type.


    People experiencing homelessness all have a couple of things in common. First, they’re almost always battling drug/alcohol addiction, severe mental illness, a physical disability, or some combination of the three. Secondly, they often lack a safety net of support from family and/or friends.
    @Poptart, when I read your statement that homeless people almost always have a drug/alcohol addiction, severe mental illness, a physical disability, or all three, I was reminded of a friend of mine.

    This guy was a brilliant ILI-Te who set the curve in his University physics classes. He was invited to join a tech company while still in college, so he dropped out and when the company was sold, he made a lot of money. He then started his own company and sold it, again making a lot of money. He bought some land and built a building on it so he could do whatever kind of research he wanted. He was an incredible loner who didn't get along with any of his family members. Then, when he was about 24, he met this carefree, footloose woman and he fell in love.

    She was from one of the Nordic countries, and she returned there to live (she had several kids by several different men, and there, she could more easily support them). He followed her to her country and they lived there for a while and he proposed to her. But she rejected him. She didn't want to be tied down to one guy, and he took it very, very hard. He had his first manic episode there, and when he got out of the hospital, he returned to the States, now on a doctor's prescription for lithium. Amazingly enough, he had a lot of subsequent girlfriends, but he met them in coffee shops and they never meant anything to him. He was stuck on the Nordic girl. He used to send her and her kids money when she wrote to him.

    He lived the rest of his life in that research building, making wooden toy models and giving them to kids. He had long silver hair and a beard and wore old, tattered clothes and wooden shoes and he chain smoked but wouldn't touch alcohol or weed. I asked him once why he smoked, and he gave me a clinical analysis on how most people with manic-depression smoke because it relieves their symptoms. I mean, the guy was brilliant and was stable as long as the drugs were working. But if you saw him on the street, you'd think that he might try to hand you a pamphlet about Jesus or the new health food store opening up in town, and you'd definitely avoid eye contact with him.

    He was never homeless because he had made cubic money in his twenties and had invested it, but he certainly looked homeless. He absolutely didn't care what other people thought. I invited him to help with a project at the University's Space Physics Research Labs. When we all went out for lunch, one of the researchers said something that my friend thought was stupid, and he "turned the guy off". The researcher had said something to my friend the he really took objection to, and my friend then reacted like he hadn't heard a sound from the guy and there was no person sitting across from him at the table. Even though the researcher still tried to talk to my friend, my friend acted like no one was there. It was one of the most amazing things I had ever seen in my life.
    My friend ended up not participating in the project because, he later told me, they didn't know what the hell they were doing and he didn't want to waste his time on them.

    His chain smoking eventually killed him.
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    Sounds like me, but it happened in my teens, and I don't have the cubic money yet, because when it happens, your grades suffer.
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