Just one part of the description that I don't get
Just one part of the description that I don't get
I think that LSI's like structure and having predictability in their lives. They certainly try to impose order and predictability on their entire world. They have high Ti for the structure, and low Ni so they like to have things set out for them because they can't predict them by themselves, and what you can't predict becomes scary.
This often is associated with Authority, but I don't think Authority is the main point. A disorganized and capricious authority will not get their respect.
Probably have to more specifically define 'authority.' If the authority makes sense and is firm but fair-minded people tend to respect it. If the authority is cruel and overzealous- it's not worthy of respect. I don't think we should live in a world where people are allowed to just rape, rob and murder and kill people lol. If it's just a cruel narcissist that's making crap up for power tho and is some power hungry tyrant it's not very respectable. Those people are really deranged and often just want to throw somebody in prison for being weird while also allowing really fucked up people to get away with something because they liked them in a Fi way. They often are also on the road to being heartless criminals themselves.
Not sure how LSIs feel about that. I knew a LSI at college that kind of glared at ppl to make sure people were 'behaving' and I think he might have been a cop but I'm not sure. There is obviously a thin line sometimes being authority and being a criminal because an authoritative person has to learn how to think like a criminal in order to catch them. And has to be tough, uncompromising and not very empathetic in situations in order to do their job. (like early season Benson noted) All that is understandable. But then her gay best friend told her that she was fine because she helps people- she doesn't hurt them. I liked her character in earlier seasons much better I think? lol.
Many of them seem to gain political influence. The play in the system by the rules earn the respect claim ultimate authority and take over Crimean peninsula (but they can not beat emus).
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Well they dooooo tend to like hard, cruel, penetrative forces that don't respect boundaries.... ime
Respectful of their laws, not necessarily others’. They’re not “rebellious” where they want to buck something for its sake, but there is a rational explanation to this and often times it’s because they think it’s wrong. Since they have valued and high dimensional Se they’ll correct what they deem as wrong if they’re within the power structure to do it. So while they may mainly be law abiding citizens, compliance doesn’t mean respect.
I know one who claimed to be an anarchist.
@Uncle Ave I figured out why Gulenko considers Clint Eastwood LSI:
Clint Eastwood LSI is practical, down to earth with strong ideas about right and wrong. He is orderly, organized, systematic and controlled, and once committed - he employs decisive and methodical steps to problems solving, without giving up easily. Clint seeks to establish a solid foundation, and would rather use hard work and long hours to build a business or career than search for "get rich quick" schemes. He has great potential for success, but only after putting out effort and overcoming the limitations he so often encounters. Courageous and a true survivor, he is a builder and the foundation of any enterprise, and his hard work and practical values pay off to provide Clint Eastwood with the rewards he seeks and deserves. Justice and honesty are sacred to Eastwood, making him reliable and dependable, and quite often - a cornerstone in the community. Also, though not a typical idealist, Clint Eastwood is willing to work for a better world in a realistic way.
Clint Eastwood works well with others, but it is important that he would have his own responsibility and well-defined task, because he performs better when his responsibilities are not overlapping with those of others.
Due to the rare discipline and perseverance that Eastwood possesses, not everyone can keep up with him, and he has to be careful not to be bossy and rude. He can be also rigid in his ideas and get stuck in convention or too quick in judging his fellow man.
Clint Eastwood is loyal to those he loves. He is well suited for marriage and often becomes a responsible loving parent. However, anything that violates his profound sense of order, such as separation or divorce can be a shattering experience for him.
with the exception of organized and orderly I relate to everything there. >.> assuming the above is true of him (which apparently is).. he probably respects authority as well...
in my case it depends.. authority has to meet certain requirements for me to show any kind of respect. I will follow the law however even if I may disagree, just to stay clear of trouble. I'm assuming LSI-H and C are less orderly and more prone to comfort and creativity respectively example LSI-C Elon Musk
.. despite being messy every time I read an ISTj desription or type 6 description its like .."thats me.. if only they weren't organized and orderly, I'd fully relate"
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Just remembered why i made this post...
An LSI friend of mine told me, when they aren't getting paid enough at their job, they steal cash from the till.
They said they'd do it again, if a workplace were underpaying them
LSIs are not necessarily respectful of authority but they usually have a knack for understanding and operating within authority structures. Most seem to be able to play invisible conformists. They're not likely to take the initiative to change structures that are working to their advantage. However, I've known some smart ones who've successfully subverted their bosses for cause; they were able to spread poison without becoming suspect simply because they were devils for detail while their managers weren't.
They will follow the rules if they agree with them. More often than not Betas tend to be skeptical of authority figures and therefore rebel (if Se triad). They may even want to be the authority themselves.
LSIs follow the rules like Batman. They enforce the rules on their own terms even if it conflicts with the generally accepted rules around them. Like Batman breaking the law and working as a vigilante to bring criminals to justice.
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The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
I don't think they’re respectful towards authority in the sense that, just as they like speed driving, they might skip a red light or two. But spend some time around them and you’ll see an inclination towards the military way of life, even if they aren't living one themselves. I'm referring mostly to the men. Admiration for the idea of strictness and civilized violence carried out together with their dude bros that will slip through in things like watching documentaries and films, etc. It's funny because this coexists with a rather suboptimal understanding of other people and life situations, so a word or two against the forces is enough to pit them against them. There are LSI that are less like that, thankfully.
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