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    I will take the questionnaire, its just 30$ https://www.attitudinalpsyche.com/
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    Answering it here to fill out later today when I guy the thing, will EDIT this a few times:

    1. Describe a time when you used your own reasoning and analytical skills to learn a new idea or system. How do you know the method(s) you chose were ideal? If you don't know, what hurdles do you think keep you from understanding this knowledge? Can you imagine how your insight has aided in further research related to the idea or system? Expand as much as needed.

    As with most things IF I am uninterested in the subject I will most likely procrastinate and fail to acquire the necessary knowledge even if I try to push myself. If I'm interested however, it means I will take almost every opportunity to "dabble" and "play" in a flow state with the idea or system and no hurdle is big enough to overcome eventually by sheer attrition until I understand it. I prefer to be hands on, in the process and learn best by understanding how everything connects into a wider system. Why? Because its fun. For this reason I enjoy talking about my interests with others, debating certain aspects. I enjoy feedback from other people amd need to know their thoughts, to compare and contrast them to mine. While I may seem like I'm confident in my understanding of things, and may dismiss other people's ideas or argue against them or just devil's advocate, the reality is that I doubt myself quite a lot & feedback is something I rely on and consequently value. It is one thing to casually enjoy a lively discussion with another layman and another thing to argue with someone who has in depth knowledge about his/her own field. Just reading reference material and thinking for myself isn't enough. It is how I go about learning socionics for example, but its not limited to that. For deep insight and advancement one would have to reach mastery in a given field and this hasn't happened to me yet, so I haven't contributed to advancements or research. I'm also not academically inclined at all and more at home with pragmatic applied knowledge or "realistic" Holland code cluster "R". Despite this I sometimes dabble in more abstract areas of interest, which is how I found socionics, proceeded to read reference material, look up examples, try to figure myself out and argue with other people possibly for months on obscure forums and video-chat going through sources of information which ranged from dubious to more legitimate as well as asking a specialist in the field to see what he thought about my own personality. The overall picture is still incomplete as I proceed from details to the whole, but I'm confident of my level of knowledge, less so in experience. Regardless it is highly interesting and that keeps fueling my desire to know more.

    2. Describe a time when you exchanged reasoning and analysis with another person to learn a new idea or system. How do you respond to someone who criticizes your knowledge while asserting their own? How do you decide which sources of information are best? Do you believe that most people have better reasoning skills than you? Why or why not?

    As stated in the previous question I enjoy arguing with people. Even if I'm wrong about something I can only gain / learn from it, plus it is fun and I do this regularly and other people may have information that is unknown to me. If someone criticizes my knowledge I will argue back and they will need to prove to me that I'm not understanding something correctly or that I have false information. This doesn't mean that I'm confident in my knowledge, far from it, I doubt myself a lot, but I doubt them as well. I will learn from the process regardless of me or them being right in the end. As far as information sources go, imo proven reliable authorities in their own areas of expertise are the best.. BUT it doesn't mean that they know absolutely everything, which makes all sources valuable, more or less. I seem to think a lot of ppl have worse reasoning skills then me, but I often doubt myself and it is reasonable to assume that there are many ppl with vastly better reasoning skills than me. To think I am always right would be idiotic. By default I defer to the knowledge of an expert, especially if I haven't fully understood something, but may eventually start arguing once I do understand. Imo this is just common sense or being realistic.


    3. Talk about a time you set and achieved a goal. How much energy did you put into the entire process? How does this achievement enhance or demonstrate your willpower? Did you feel inspired by the challenge to complete the goal? Did this accomplishment display a part of your identity? If so, what is it? If that's difficult to answer, why do you think that is?

    Hmm.. I seem to either downplay my achievements in my mind or do not consider them a big deal? I'm not sure. One example would be acing my driver's exam on the first try even tho I'm not fond of driving and only really did it, because it was a general social expectation. Its common for me to do things out of obligation rather than me actually wanting to, but when it is about something I do want I tend to be relentless, stubborn and addicted. I often have no idea what I want tho. Other similar example would be getting Cambridge certifications for English and Goethe Institute certs for German as both are foreign languages to me. I'm not sure if they were worth doing, at the time it seemed like they would be worth doing. I'm just generally proud of how easily I seem to learn foreign languages to almost native lvl. I can't say I actually struggled either or how much effort these things involved.. imo I slacked off and probably could have put in more effort, but its hard for me to put effort into things I'm not super interested in and when it comes to things I'm interested in, I get lost in the process and lose track of the effort I expend. Sometimes I realize I have been up all night learning about something or doing something I'm into, time just flew by and I forgot to sleep. I don't really do achievement hunting and idk what all this says about me tbh.

    4. Talk about a time you set and achieved a goal with another person. How much energy did you put into the process of collaborating with them? Did you gain inspiration by the collective effort to complete the goal? How do you respond to someone asserting their opinion on what you should be responsible for? Is your character easy for others to see? When people have an opinion about your character, do you take it seriously? Why or why not?

    Most recent thing I can remember was a joint project with my father, we built this rather large brick-grill at the family home. Its for family reunions and grill parties. I don't know how much energy it required, but it took us days and we argued a lot about how exactly it should be done, I tore down part of it, because I was sure it wouldn't support the necessary load and rebuilt it myself lol. My father imo would have built it wrong, so I argued with him, disagreed and ended up rebuilding part of the structure myself. It was fun and we are proud of the result, not sure what you mean by inspiration tho. I don't respond well to people asserting their opinions about what I should be responsible for and I don't like to be told what to do tbh. It makes me angry and I aggressively push back. I also respond really badly, as in with aggression to coercion. Yeah I think my character is easy to see, its my experience that other people's observations about me tend to be often true even if at first I disagree with them.

    5. Tell us about a specific time that you vocalized or expressed a deep feeling or emotion. How did you decide which emotion was relevant to your personal values? Can you imagine how you might turn this experience into a chance to create art, stories or music? How might you do that? If this is difficult, explain what barriers hold you back from imagining this. Expand as much as necessary.

    I.. have a hard time expressing emotions even to someone like my mother. The only exceptions seem to have been girlfriends, love, or if I get really angry or sad and can't contain the outburst. I'd say I'm inhibited in this regard, sometimes ashamed or it feels weak and I want to hide my emotional attitudes. I'd rather grit my teeth and run to the toilet than to burst out crying in front of anyone including my own family. Regardless at my uncle's funeral I thought I had no feelings for him until I saw him in the coffin. I got blindsided by the most terrifying relentless sobbing I have ever experienced. It was more of a relief tho when I thought about it in hindsight as it confirmed to me that I cared about him.. so I wasn't, surprisingly, ashamed of that. I may also explode when really angry and smash things, happens very rarely tho. Normally I'm rather self contained and inhibited and put on a friendly mask. I don't think one can decide what emotions are relevant, I mean they have a life of their own it seems, like forces of nature. Unsure how they relate to my values or how to go about explaining that. I'm not really interested in turning my emotions into art, so I'd say disinterest prevents me. Come to think about it, I never considered doing this, but now that I did.. I have some ideas as to how I can turn emotions into art. Seems to be visual ideas tho, painting / photography. Interesting.

    6. Tell us about a time that someone expressed their deep feelings or emotions to you. Did you encourage or accept these expressions? Do you ever consider the appropriateness of those emotions? Do you think about the value of culture, art and music often? If so, where do you draw the line between what’s good or bad? If you disagree with the notion of "good or bad art, culture or music" please explain further.

    Weird, not much comes to mind tbh, do I take other people's feelings for granted or do ppl around me not really express emotions that freely? Not sure. Answering these questions seems to prove difficult. I remember people doing things for me to express their feelings, example when my girlfriend at the time got into book-binding and as a token of her affection restored my favorite book, which was in tatters. Aren't all emotions appropriate? They exist for a reason. I'm often ashamed of mine however and the highly negative emotions of other people are difficult to tolerate. While preference in art and culture is subjective imo it can be argued that certain attitudes and expressions are detrimental to the overall healthy functioning of society. This seems to be the case for example nowadays where a lot of nihilism and vulgarity is on display. It seems to mirror the social rot and illness, growing like a fungus. "Disgusting" is probably the most appropriate word.

    7. Describe a time or situation where you managed your resources to fit your needs. Did you do so to keep yourself comfortable, or were there other reasons? What drives you to avoid discomfort if so? Do you believe you're highly skilled at organizing your environment? What resources do you consider a necessity to keep in your surroundings? If this is difficult to answer, why do you think that is? Explain further as much as needed.

    Well ever since I started working I have been managing my resources and partially the resources of my parents as well tbh or more precisely I advised them on how to get out of debt, starting with me paying off my mother's debts and they managed to save up enough for renovating the family home combined with a bit of financial help from me, which I consider as only a small repayment for them raising me. Comfort for me I guess means being financially secure. Physical comfort isn't that important tbh. I do weird stuff such as sleeping on the floor for 3 years out of simple curiosity as it is said its healthy or taking ice showers because it is said they improve willpower and health or water-fasting for 7 days, because it is said one achieves mental clarity, so curiosity. Mind you I could not return to a soft bed afterwards and had to get the hardest bed I could find lol. I'm disorganized and my living space while clean tends to be chaotic. It gets progressively more chaotic depending on my mood, a reflection of my state of mind. I'm rather minimalist and can get by on little tbh, so I don't own much stuff, hard to say exactly what resources I like to keep around, I guess electricity, internet, water, food, housing, simple clothes without branding, my car. To be honest I kind of find normal living surroundings to be boring and I want to transform mine into this "fey-wild" enchanted place using automation, lighting and so on. Good aesthetics are important. The real world often seems dull.

    8. Describe a time or situation where someone else managed your resources. Did you trust them? Why or why not? How do you respond to advice regarding your personal needs, space and comfort? Are the opinions of others regarding money important to you? What is your response to those who are interested in your personal tastes, aesthetic preferences, and belongings? Do you discuss or share them freely? Why or why not?

    I guess this would be my parents when I was a kid. Ofc I trusted them. As an adult I haven't been in any situation where someone else would manage my resources and I wouldn't trust anyone else with that anyway as that sort of thing would be me relinquishing control to someone else and that is never going to happen. I like to be in control of my time and material resources, energy and so on. I'm always open to other people's suggestions and advice regarding my needs, space or comfort as long as they do not try to impose these on me and I can refuse if I disagree or know better. I often give other people such advice as well even if unsolicited. I follow certain people who are proven to be financial experts and know what they are talking about when it comes to money since schools do not teach people how to do personal finance, to save and invest or manage assets and liabilities.. so naturally I care about money. I like to freely discuss personal tastes, aesthetics, preferences .. but don't touch or break my stuff. Its fun, plus people often have interesting ideas and info.
    Last edited by SGF; 02-24-2021 at 09:18 AM.

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