What is the problem with modern society? Female dominance and sexuality?Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
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What is the problem with modern society? Female dominance and sexuality?
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This is what Ne to Fe with valued Si looks like. She’s IEE-H so there’s extra emphasis on the Si/Ni. She uses Fe to execute Ne for Fi reasons. High dimensional unvalued Fe only gets used to serve their high dimensional valued functions.
For the anime wannabe boss bitch rapper, she uses Ne craziness to execute her Fe theatrics. I don’t know wtf her Ni reasons would be, but she probably just wants to establish herself as some pioneer weirdo.
I agree with my dual, very convincing arguments and she even VIs as Delta NF to me.
I tried to pay attention to her in the video but it completely sapped my energy lol. I mean I'm not sure it's type related but maybe somewhat. There are IEEs I like a lot better than this at any rate but for whatever reason I couldn't watch more than 15 seconds of her without turning her off. I might later try to force myself through it to get a better typing of it but I doubt it. I don't care too much. I will make her a succubus mini-boss in my video game though probably tee hee.
What is the problem with modern society? Female dominance and sexuality?
(Don’t take this post too seriouslyits all very "ghetto", in one's face, vulgar and overtly sexual. Nothing seems sacred anymore. Depressing & crude.
Women also seem to want to become men, but not ideal men either, more like the crude shitty stereotype ppl hate.
Its the same as that Piss Christ "art". :/ .. reminds me of Aaron Something
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LOL,
dis Ti does not fly
"why are you are you drooling after... I know you are.... when I'm at home I like to tell myself how great I am in every aspect and I'm going to show it."
So what to say about this? I don't know. IEE's usually produce songs where they try to charm pants out of you and not kick your balls inside.
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Haha, I am actually attracted to such things.
Women also seem to want to become men, but not ideal men either, more like the crude shitty stereotype ppl hate.
Its the same as that Piss Christ "art". :/ .. reminds me of Aaron SomethingI totally understand where you are coming from, though!
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@flames this song still reminds me of you! <3 hahaha:
I know it's "cringe" and str8 male truckers would brutally bully me for liking this but I can't help it, what a sweet gay boi song:
You're more beautiful than I have ever theeeen!
Sooo.. how in the eff does that work with LSI tho? It kind of puzzles me :/Haha, I am actually attracted to such things.
e_e an EIE's dual is basically this: practical, down to earth with strong ideas about right and wrong. He is orderly, organized, systematic and controlled, and once committed - he employs decisive and methodical steps to problems solving, without giving up easily. <== basic description why Gulenko considers Clint Eastwood LSI
.. personally I'd say I'm messy, but also highly conscientious.. however I do agree with he rest of the description even if LSI right and wrong is rather stiff and black and white & conventional compared to anything a Fi base might come up with.
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Well, it’s not the only thing in the world I find attractive.I am attracted to many different people, I love people. I am a lover and a romantic at heart. I have been attracted to people from every Quadra in my life so far. But attraction is often a superficial thing that can just as quickly turn into disgust. These traits you brought up:
ghetto", in one's face, vulgar and overtly sexual
are traits I often feel drawn to, probably as some general admiration of Se or Beta Fe - to a lesser extent. But I have absolutely been turned off by people who primarily possess those things as well. Two people can have the same trait but express it very differently, I believe. I do like those things about LSI but I feel like people over exaggerate some aspects. I don’t view them as walking with a stick up their ass as much as other people, anyways.
LSI friend once caught me in an over dramatic moment where I wanted to lash out at somebody else - told me very firmly “If you do this I will not be friends with you anymore”. I immediately snapped out of it. Did not take any offense to it. Other times he has said things along the lines of “I will not do (insert something) for you/with you/etc.” assertively which also worked on me. It’s the rules being laid down assertively that rubs off on me. But when other types try to tell me what to do or the order of things, I retaliate.
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Duality is slow to start but long to last.Sooo.. how in the eff does that work with LSI tho? It kind of puzzles me :/
When I met my SLE dual that I consider the 'main love of my life so far' it wasn't a type of cartoony thing where I saw him and instantly did wildtakes like Minerva Mink on Animaniacs. I didn't have wild IEI spasms of lust (although I did grow to find him very attractive but it evolved it wasn't sudden.) It took 3 years of living with him and slowly coming to terms of how good it felt over a series of time and spending time together in a variety of situations. And hell I'm the *feeler* type in the situation. Heaven knows how long it's gonna take the logical type to feel the same but I think it was kinda/sorta equal.
If you're accepting the dual feels or even the logical mechanisms of duality that seem 'appropriate' (however logical types analyze things idk) to come in one week or one month or one season or even a couple years.... I think that might be asking for 2 much. Although sometimes it could happen I guess every dual relationship is a little different but I think 'slow to start, long to last' is kinda the norm. And of course even if it is your dual and it's been 5+ years you often realize you're just better off as friends.
I heard that in Normie Karen Land it takes 4 months not 3 years for this thing to happen but for me it took 3 years as I don't really seriously 'fall for somebody' over night. It takes a lot of time for me and I just view duality as more or less like that.
Hard for me to type at first as she is a bit of an airhead version of whatever type she is, and belongs in her own little subcategory with Gerard Way, who I reckon looks exactly like her and talks in the same way. I admire her lack of pretentiousness. She's definitely Democratic.
I think she is SEE. Mostly because of her sheer audacity in the interview below (wtf), her abrasive sexual confidence (strong and valued Se), and she VI's like Napoleon in this (http://socioinfo.ru/photo-gallery-socionic-types) gallery of the types. Under Наполеон.
"Loose cannon" is a pretty good descriptor (ISTj on ESFp: "makes absolutely no sense, totally chaotic, a loose cannon"): https://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/content.php/167-The-Hidden-Agenda-and-Point-of-Least-Resistance-(PoLR)
SEE women can be very quirky and stereotypically Ne-like, but they lack a dignified essence IEE women typically have (Aristocracy). They're very much an open book. They're also Positivist not Negativist like IEE. SEE are initially trusting and excitable and develop critique and clarity of thought later on. IEE's are more vigilant.
I can see how Ashnikko would be the dual of ILI. A few ILI men I know have had girlfriends with very gaudy appearances, altered eyebrows and toxic colored hair, kind of a hedonistic/ditzy personality. This is not all SEE women, though, I do know some present themselves very elegantly, but their personality is different, very uninhibited and revealing far too much information, often on sexual/intimate topics. Makes sense as they are from a Democratic not Aristocratic quadra, and Se lead as well.
She sounds a bit like a thug in this interview, and I spot a semblance to the character from Breaking Bad, Jesse Pink (also SEE)
sx/so 7w8 SEE; MBTI ESFP and probably 748 tritype.
Seems quite vacuous but a part of my quadra nevertheless. She's as SeFi as it gets. Noticeably settled in the present, only talking about concrete things going on in her life, very straightforward and not at all abstract in her responses. Unlike an Ne ego, she does not bounce off ideas, constant abstractions or future-oriented discussion. At all. I can see how the effervescence she displays comes off as IEE-esque but it seems like her bubbliness mostly comes from her enneagram.
Here are some of her lyrics:
Stupid boy think that I need him
I know you think about me in the shower
Pornhub in your browser
Fantasise about the pussy power
Think about me with your hand down your trousers
I'm sweet, then I'm sour
I'm big boss Bowser
I know you salivating over me, sir
Nipples through the t-shirt
Told your mommy that you're bringing home a keeper
Knees are getting weaker when he hear me through the speaker
Where's the?
No idea how anyone could conceive this woman assx/so 7w8 SEE; MBTI ESFP and probably 748 tritype.
Seems quite vacuous but a part of my quadra nevertheless. She's as SeFi as it gets. Noticeably settled in the present, only talking about concrete things going on in her life, very straightforward and not at all abstract in her responses. Unlike an Ne ego, she does not bounce off ideas, constant abstractions or future-oriented discussion. At all. I can see how the effervescence she displays comes off as IEE-esque but it seems like her bubbliness mostly comes from her enneagram.
Here are some of her lyrics:
Stupid boy think that I need him
I know you think about me in the shower
Pornhub in your browser
Fantasise about the pussy power
Think about me with your hand down your trousers
I'm sweet, then I'm sour
I'm big boss Bowser
I know you salivating over me, sir
Nipples through the t-shirt
Told your mommy that you're bringing home a keeper
Knees are getting weaker when he hear me through the speaker
Where's the
She's roleplaying a bit. Yeah she's vapid, but it's not that serious lol.
Women also seem to want to become men, but not ideal men either, more like the crude shitty stereotype ppl hate.
Its the same as that Piss Christ "art". :/ .. reminds me of Aaron Something
I watched that. I don’t think she’s SEE. She is clearly putting on an image. She’s slightly funny, she made me laugh a couple times. I might be switching to IEE now, actually.
”My whole life is a joke and I don’t take anything seriously” - Ne base, type 7
“Ty Dolla Sign could sing “Pee pee, poo poo, diarrhea” and I would be like, “Oh my God! That’s so sexy” - Infantile humor
Her describing a character in a song:
“She rids the world of rapists and throat punches the patriarchy, leaving daisies behind as a calling card of sorts”
That sounds like Fi stuffs to me.
@shotgunfingers This isn’t your dual so you may rest easy.
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Lol he sounds like me..LSI friend once caught me in an over dramatic moment where I wanted to lash out at somebody else - told me very firmly “If you do this I will not be friends with you anymore”. I immediately snapped out of it. Did not take any offense to it. Other times he has said things along the lines of “I will not do (insert something) for you/with you/etc.” assertively which also worked on me. It’s the rules being laid down assertively that rubs off on me. But when other types try to tell me what to do or the order of things, I retaliate.
Ehhh. She's not Aristocratic nor Negativist nor 2D Se. IEE's approach topics of sex in a coy fashion. The women, even if they're butch, go all shyly feminine and dip their head, speaking in hints concerning matters of personal or sexual intimacy.I watched that. I don’t think she’s SEE. She is clearly putting on an image. She’s slightly funny, she made me laugh a couple times. I might be switching to IEE now, actually.
”My whole life is a joke and I don’t take anything seriously” - Ne base, type 7
“Ty Dolla Sign could sing “Pee pee, poo poo, diarrhea” and I would be like, “Oh my God! That’s so sexy
Her describing a character in a song:
“She rids the world of rapists and throat punches the patriarchy, leaving daisies behind as a calling card of sorts”
That sounds like Fi stuffs to me.
@shotgunfingers This isn’t your dual so you may rest easy.
IEE's are more aware of appearing dignified and sophisticated, even though they may give off the impression they are sharing everything. Asnikko is completely in the sensing realm and sensing world and is showing her warts and all. SEE and IEE are Lookalike types too so it makes sense they appear similar.
The poo poo diarrhea thing, it's not that original, it's no indication of 4D Ne. Or being infantile. Find me an LII that says poo poo diarrhea (in an interview...)
Fi stuffs? SEE is Fi creative too. And throat punches is more Se than Ne realm I reckon.
Check out these lyrics:
Make your man call me daddy
He talk too much, he's too chatty (not cool)
CEO, I'm savvy
Respect a bitch, I'm a maverick
Flexible, so elastic
But don't do you dare bend a bitch backwards
Fuck a princess, I'm a king
Bow down and kiss on my ring
Being a bitch is my kink
What the fuck else did you think?
Fuck a princess, I'm a king
Bow down and kiss on my ring
It's gonna hurt, it'll sting
Spittin' your blood in the sink
Aggressor.
Oh god...
At this rate an argument will probably be made for all 16 of the types before the end of the year. I guess it’s always like that, though.
I think she is SLI because she likes dick so much
Obvious case of Si ego and Fi mobilizing
Hmmmm...
What about D-IEE-Ne?
Dominating subtype may explain some of Fe people are seeing, and I know a lot of people sometimes find Te and Se behaviorally similar to some degree. I really think dominating subtype could explain a lot here.
but I literally just got into DCNH, so my knowledge about that is lacking. What do you all think about that?
I only know of DCNH subtype or going by the either of the two main functions of the type as subtype (although that’s not precise). I don’t mix them together since that sounds even more weird and confusing. If they’re D or N then they’re a rational subtype, and if C or H, they’re irrational subtype.
Right. This wannabe boss bitch anime rapper is likely EIE with C subtype (stronger development Ne and Se for type), or EIE-Fe.
Oh snap. Yeah, I agree.. I mean whats the point of a relationship if she isn't playing hard to get. Ashinkko does seem like Se base aggressor. Good analysis.
She is like Conor McGregor who imo is SEE. They have 4D demonstrative Fe.
Ashnikko has been a trickier one for us to type. We seem to be torn between EIE, IEE, and SEE. We have been putting a lot of emphasis on her perceiving functions which have proven elusive to consensus. This prompted me to look at rational IEs like Fi again.
Look at the link on Fi: Introverted ethics - Wikisocion
I can see loads upon loads of Fi creative themes in her songs. Lots of establishing the status of relations in her music and usually does so with an Se-esque front. Whether she is making it clear how much she doesn't like someone anymore or coaxing with sexual/dominant themes, the Fi creative is present in every song. Fi is something she is very attentive to.
Ashnikko - Deal With It Feat. Kelis (Official Lyric Video) - YouTube
Ashnikko - STUPID Feat. Yung Baby Tate (Official Video) - YouTube
Ashnikko - Hi, It's Me (Official Video) - YouTube
Ashnikko - Daisy (Official Video) - YouTube
Seriously, every song I have heard has creative Fi in it.
And I don't see any Fe from her very consistently. At least not enough to be the dominant function. Look at her interviews and such:
Ashnikko Talks Daisy, STUPID, “Demidevil” Mixtape and Her Bloody Music Videos - YouTube
Ashnikko "Daisy" Official Lyrics & Meaning | Verified - YouTube
She is more subdued and not putting on a big act of sorts in this one: Ashnikko's Grandparents React To Her Music Videos - YouTube
The way she uses Fi narrows it down to SEE and IEE.
We have similar facial structure and style
I know I’m SEE or EIE
She also reminds be of Angel Olsen and Miley Cyrus mixed together
So I’d likely say one of the two as we are probably the same type?
Yeah. IEE's actually (contrary to ILE's who are more like nobody is boss of me... so smell my stinking farts) have Se role that longs for this sort of violent mayhem which is something that they are supposed to debate with their duals (but they can not really digest it).
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What do you mean? Elaborate a bit more, i'm curious.Yeah. IEE's actually (contrary to ILE's who are more like nobody is boss of me... so smell my stinking farts) have Se role that longs for this sort of violent mayhem which is something that they are supposed to debate with their duals (but they can not really digest it).
http://wikisocion.net/en/index.php?t...nction_of_ISTp
3. Se: role function of ENFp and ignoring function of ISTp
Interacting with others, the IEE makes an impression of a person who is decisive and confident in himself. He is able to mobilize his will in extreme situations. However, due to normative nature of this function, his assertiveness and pushiness can turn to scandalous aggression and even physical abuse (especially for male representatives of this type). The SLI manages and directs this function for the IEE by formulating and providing him with appropriate advice: "Demand it from him," "Go to your boss, and state what you want," or, conversely, "Don't push him", "It's a private matter", "Leave this person alone". In the initial stage of dualization, this may take the form of quarrels and stormy discussions between them.
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This has happened to me, sadly. I've been very abusive to people, both physically and verbally. Been labelled as sociopathic and psycho by duals before, they're usually the ones trying to cut me down/stop me when I get like that with other people, I just can't stop myself really. I lack control, that's why i'm an abusive person.
Self-control is a choice. Many people choose not to exercise it because by losing control of their actions, they either get what they want or they validate their own self-image. But "self-control" is entirely under one's own control.
Honestly, I don't know where those SEE votes come from. I can sort of see EIE, but I think IEE is the best type for her.
The Se-vibe probably comes from her Sx instinct, and she probably had some beta crew members helping her with her videos. Also, the role function has a tendency to be over-exaggerated, and I think that's what's happening with Ashnnikko. If you look at the the contents of her videos, it is obvious that she is a delta negativist result type. I don't know how much control she has in creating her videos, but the Se she'd shown is Se- not Se+. Her videos (STUPID and Cry) and depict raw and primitive gore and violence instead of the more "civilized" versions seen from SEEs (I left some examples for reference). Ashnnikko is also not Se-valuing because a lot of her behaviour is designed to subvert the status hierarchy of modern society. In her video Special, she was dressed like a dude gazing on cross-dressing men. This shows not only Fi+ but also Ne-. SEEs, in comparison, tends to work along with the status system to get what they want. This includes gold digging and manipulating influential people. Ashnnikko, on the other hand, is advocating for artificial moral ideals, and she sees potential where it doesn't normally exist. Ashnnikko also has Si suggestive characteristics, like her infantile humour/imageries regarding various bodily fluids. She rarely demonstrates anything related to the gamma materialistic culture seen in SEE music artists.
EIEs can also be feminists, however, the thing about them is that they (as process types) tend to push people towards the future. Like Martin Luther King and Chanty Binx, they use their persuasive abilities to get people to go along with them. However, in Ashnnikko's videos (Slumber party and Special), she halts normal human behaviour by shocking them with paradoxical static imageries. EIEs also tend to have a very teasy vibe, which tends to be associated with victim types (see Nikki Minaj for example). This is very different from the more aggressive tone Ashnnikko uses.
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