Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
@aster, if you get LSI then we'll know that Gulenko is operating a money-laundering business that is using a really stupid bot to automatically reply to people after it cashes their check.
"Save money on code. Type everyone LSI and just randomly vary the DCNH values, because that's my latest thing. No one will ever know that the program works that way. Incidentally, are there any checks in the mail?"
Last edited by Adam Strange; 11-29-2020 at 03:16 PM.
He is just testing his neural network on social-desirability bias. He needs testing data.
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Maybe Oprah is moonlighting as a socionist. "You get a LSI typing...and you get one...sure you get another".
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What the fuck became of this thread?
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You are typed off of two videos. First you make a video responding to the five questions on his site (I think it is, what do you do for a living, do you like your job why or why not, what are your hobbies, tell about your family, and tell about what you think are your strong and weak points).
When they confirm payment, you get a second set of questions, you make a second video answering those. I got 11 questions the second time, some were more personal and based off of what I said on the first video, some seemed more general.
In total I think my first video was 10 mins long, second video 21 mins.
They then send you the conclusion, which explains in terms of preferences of what he calls "installation" (logic vs ethics, sensing vs intuition) and temperament (introversion vs extraversion, rationality vs irrationality). I also got a section on quadra which some of the others didn't get. Then, he explains your DCNH subtype and finally, gives a conclusion on the whole type with some advice to improve yourself.
All the points he made seem at least fair, and most were very accurate. He gives examples based both off of the content of what you say in the video, and body language. In the other reports that I read it seemed he had some doubts about rationality and irrationality, but in my case he said all the preferences on the dichotomies were clearly expressed.
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Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Always thought baby bear is ENFP Huxley.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Sooo...curious, but do all of those typed LSI feel like that makes sense? Just seems odd so many are getting typed LSI. Reminds me, I think G-man types Elon Musk LSI too and I do wonder about that one. Seems like G-man's DCNH is being used to justify typing someone a particular type when, without DCNH, another type would fit better in classic Socionics thought.
But maybe that IS more insightful, if only we knew what Gulenko used to distinguish the types then, if DCNH can make a type have characteristics of another. So I guess then it comes down to if people think DCNH is more helpful or not cause I guess that's hard to gauge objectively. A word is coming to mind now - superfluous.
but notsure.
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You'll need @Sol to spook them off behind your back and giving wedgies.
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He’s not threatening you at all. You freak out over any perceived threats and then roll over like you’re the victim because you can’t handle disagreements. And since Mega is IEE, conflictor to IEE would be LSI, and you’re not LSI. Either way, Se egos doesn’t run away from conflict so Mega has valid reasons to agree EII being your type. Socionics doesn’t have any provisions that you change types based on your relations with others. You’ve been around for years treating this forum as your personal toilet shitting on everyone with your gaslighting and you still don’t learn when to stop.
@Sol ‘s presence automatically gives everyone around him a wedgie. Except for me, I’m impervious as his dual. He still think we are conflictors unfortunately. :’ (
EII by Gulenko, IEI under Solcionics.
@Megatrop what made you change your typing to SLE-C? (if that's not intrusive to ask) I've always thought of you as the most SLE-Se/C one can be tbh, and am glad to see you think that too.
The functions, and especially Si, are hard to understand. That's why. There's plenty to digest in what I wrote. Enough for months or years. But I'll end the discussion with you now.
This is mostly about their weaknesses, and doesn't get to the Si. It's much harder to observe.Spend time with SEIs? I have and too much They’re literally not paying attention in real time and preoccupied with something else inside their heads while doing important things and getting themselves injured in the process. They’re clumsy, flakey, inconsistent, doormat, and unreliable. They’re slaves to their emotions but fearful of direct conflict due to Te being dogshit and ignore Se, their decision making process is worthless. Give them all the facts and be real with them about the situation and they’ll still make the worst decision in their circumstances.
yes, Si or Si related. The part about sleep and exercise is thematic (concern with these things), so it is not directly Si, although of course related. Si is the direct experience inner of comfort, of being rested etc.I love my SLI dad, and he’s got a temper on him but at least he’s not a doormat like SEIs. His decision making abilities is practical due to Te. The only visible Si from him is the comfort and routine. He shows interest and concern in me having a comfortable bed and nice foods to eat, keeping a regular day to day schedule, getting enough sleep and exercise, etc.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
I thought I would be SLI tbh, my Si is very good it seems, but Ti & Te as well.. however I don't relate to the base LSI descriptions much.
HOWEVER I don't know any Deltas who are as political as I am or any SLI who would smash a door to pieces in an adrenaline filled fit of rage induced by conflict.
e_e they always seem so zen and chill by comparison and I was never any of that. I can come off as SEI when ppl interact with me, but that stuff is just a mask to keep me safe and they seem bewildered when I tun on dime, because I dint's like something they did, thought or whatever.
So I think LSI works in my case for sure, if not some weird introverted SLE, but I highly doubt it as I'm neither that Se nor a type 8.
EDIT: well IF not, then I'm a weird SLI or ILE who is still type 6, still against the system and still think 90% of ppl are retarded.
^^' never gonna stop opposing your libshit way of life hahaha.. a type label does not change who I am nor what I think or want.
I think you are just another idiot, like most ppl on this website.
Last edited by SGF; 11-30-2020 at 03:36 PM.
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!
I mean politics, I doubt is type-related. I have an SEI family member that is diehard conservative and she really hates democrats and politically stereotypes everything and all that stuff and gets mad and sad and shit about it; and I kind of think that is pretty stupid to begin with. But having a political mindset of putting things into designations and groups and such could be related to Ti. But then again Delta's are supposed to like authoritarian stuff and doing that as well, while Alpha isn't, yet my SEI family member does. So *shrug*HOWEVER I don't know any Deltas who are as political as I am or any SLI who would smash a door to pieces in an adrenaline filled fit of rage induced by conflict.
e_e they always seem so zen and chill by comparison and I was never any of that. I can come off as SEI when ppl interact with me, but that stuff is just a mask to keep me safe and they seem bewildered when I tun on dime, because I dint's like something they did, thought or whatever.
Rage, depends. I've had rage more when younger. I was nurtured to be aggressive by my parents because that's how they made it through life, but that was kind of lame way to live and eventually I stopped caring. Now when I have aggression or rage, it is more genuine and purposeful, so not so negative anymore. Negative emotions can be powerful. But I think people mellow out as they get older and wiser and when they get used to accepting and dealing with a certain level of frustration from life. Some people are better at it than others though. Some people have a more natural calm, but I think everybody has to deal with these things, regardless of type.
I have an SLE-Ti stepfather who is not a type 8. He has elements of 3, 2, 7, and 9. I think he's probably 397. I don't really understand the idea that Se is about aggression and being pushy or something like socionics says. I think that is just type 8 enneagram behavior, which might be more often correlated with say Se and Te or even Fe to some extent, but it's not a must.So I think LSI works in my case for sure, if not some weird introverted SLE, but I highly doubt it as I'm neither that Se nor a type 8.
Could be. I think SLI are more people of action, whereas ILE are more people of novelty. Ne doesn't sound like you though based on your thoughts about materialism and you do seem, no offense, to have an aversion to alternate possibilities and such.EDIT: well IF not, then I'm a weird SLI or ILE who is still type 6, still against the system and still think 90% of ppl are retarded.
But thanks for responding. I think I might leave the forum and stop thinking about this stuff, since it seems I'm getting nowhere with it now and as I get older I think I adopt many different ways of being that I use to blend in, making type a rather meaningless designation to me...it all seems incredibly relative, a too precise mathematics of constantly trying to frame ever-changing dualistic aspects of personality. Yeah, I think I'm done.
I've self-typed as ILI, LIE, EIE, and ESI. LSI is kind of the missing puzzle piece. The last thing to try, since I gave all the other central rationals a try, and ILI which is introverted logical type. I just did not see myself as a Ti base. But Gulenko insists I am, and like I have said before, his analysis makes sense, when applied to me. I rejected the descriptions of Ti base in the past, but G' analysis of me as Ti base when applied to my own quirks and individual personality gives another view of this matter.
I think I need more time to think about this, though.
I think some people misunderstand what approach I'm taking. I can't speak for others, but personally, when people say it should be about self-discovery, I feel this kind of feedback from a professional is part of the process. To type oneself, one needs to know both oneself and socionics. But how do you link the two together? That seems to be the tricky part for people on the forum, myself included. Most people can't really apply the theory, and if they do, they too often get it wrong. Professionals are not infalliable either, Gulenko included (Einstein as an ILI is so wrong imo, as he was clearly an ILE). That being said, their typings are not arbitrary and based on whim, I take G' analysis of me seriously because I can tell he put work into it. The main problem might be, as was said by @lkdhf qkb, that Gulenko doesn't know the interviewee well enough. I felt Gulenko asked the right questions though. But the work of a professional is not do self-discovery for you (not that self-discovery stops at a type anyways) but to help apply their own theories, which they developped, to your own self-discovery. I think what I mean is this: you need both to listen to yourself and to someone competent who you trust, they are complementary, not mutually exclusive.
That said, I don't fully know what I think at this point. I need more time. But since I've typed as LIE, EIE, and ESI, LSI isn't crazy.
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Haha, it is funny you mention this, since Gulenko actually said the same thing, and says this is what Ti does.
Sometimes it annoys people because I do not take sides quickly enough, in a debate, or I'll just say I don't know, because I need more time to think about it. Alot of people like this quality though, I sense.Body language and function of structural logic. Structural logic is often manifested in
communication through the emotion of doubt. When in doubt, a person compares
different data and draws a conclusion based on the direction in which the bowl of scales
is leaning. Structural thinking is always dichotomous; it necessarily brings both
arguments for and against. And in the first and second interviews with [my name] there are
many examples where he shows the facial expressions of doubt associated with the
analysis of all available information about his psyche.
And thanks, I appreciate it. : )Originally Posted by Consilience
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I know it's not a productive way to release stress/anger, but I've had those fits of rage too. I've broke many cell phones from throwing them, broke a laptop I had, made a whole in the wall with a door handle, knocked over a TV, etc. Do you think it's type related, then? I always figured it was just an unhealthy coping mechanism.
anyway, whatever gulenko decides I’ll prob stick with it. all you naysayers can kiss my rear
I was brutally honest in my 2nd video, especially(sent it in last night). I think I have an idea what I’m going to get at this point.
curious if I’m right
cant wait.