do part time work, get 120$ together, pay Gulenko to type you. Problem solved.
Taco Bell was advertising $12/hr, ten hour shifts, free food. Plus, typed in one day.Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
Taco Bell was advertising $12/hr, ten hour shifts, free food. Plus, typed in one day.I find it very difficult to understand why ppl don't just pay for a professional's evaluation. Even from a Te perspective, one loses time attempting to figure one's type out, consequently one loses more than 120$ wasting time.
In my High School, there were a number of professional guidance counselors who were there to help the students figure out what they should do with their lives.
They were all idiots.
In the mean time, ppl are finding it very difficult to understand this deference before authority.
Socionics 'professionals' have never seen eye to eye - the correspondence on their typings on SSS database would vary around 30-80% - as socionics has never been a coherent system. So how would you establish who's the authority there deserving of the cha-ching?
WSS and Gulenko have different methods of typing people. I think both seem to have both seriousness and effort into those methods, but yes, they differ and thusly so do the results. I don't think either should be dismissed, perhaps being typed by several professionals might not be a bad thing.
You may or may not believe the result, but you will know that based on A,B, and C, your result is X, Y, and Z, in other words you'll have reasoning to back up the typing and the reasoning isn't random or something pulled out of someone's ass, at least not based on what I've seen.
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"In LSI's opinion, the behavior of a person needs to correspond to his position, otherwise public consciousness will be disoriented by models of the "unbecoming" behavior, which will lead to the destabilization of the social system. Respect for the authority - is one of the most important values of his intellectual structure. Orientation at authority - is an important motivation for many of his actions, that in many respects determine the nature of LSI's relationships and behavior." - Stratiyevskaya
Basic Ti, know your place within the structure / common sense. Gulenko's opinion > The opinion of random ppl on the net.
Adam you are also an idiot :'>.
I suggested it, because you could potentially waste years on the forum and not get far.
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This hasn't answered the question.
"In LSI's opinion, the behavior of a person needs to correspond to his position, otherwise public consciousness will be disoriented by models of the "unbecoming" behavior, which will lead to the destabilization of the social system. Respect for the authority - is one of the most important values of his intellectual structure. Orientation at authority - is an important motivation for many of his actions, that in many respects determine the nature of LSI's relationships and behavior." - Stratiyevskaya
Basic Ti
It has as far as I'm concerned. I won't repeat myself.
As far as I'm concerned the opinions of ppl on this forum are worthless.
Eh, maybe you take this too seriously.
"In LSI's opinion, the behavior of a person needs to correspond to his position, otherwise public consciousness will be disoriented by models of the "unbecoming" behavior, which will lead to the destabilization of the social system. Respect for the authority - is one of the most important values of his intellectual structure. Orientation at authority - is an important motivation for many of his actions, that in many respects determine the nature of LSI's relationships and behavior." - Stratiyevskaya
Basic Ti
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Adam you are also an idiot :'>.
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I suggested it, because you could potentially waste years on the forum and not get far.
1. This is occult knowledge. No one's really an expert. There are varying degrees of sense and application in applying this. Some are better than others at doing that, but Gulenko isn't perfect. His DCNH has theoretical problems when it can overlap and obfuscate the original socionics theory.
2. I've learned way more in life and had a lot of great and personal success by learning things on my own. I've built cars with no auto experience when people told me I wouldn't be able to. I've repaired electronics when people tell me I can't. I've learned to do proper electrical work when shitheads will just say to "hire a professional" when they could have offered some help instead. I do my own car maintenance when everyone is so obsessed with having a mechanic. I've even started helping people who have bad mechanics or need a good second opinion or someone to do work for them for a reasonable price. I do my own financial investments and almost always beat the average for the year; the one account I have with Edwards Jones with a small amount of money always does poorly, compared to my personal investments (for about 5 years now). I've even gotten into 3d printing and helped make tools and fixtures at work for people at an aerospace company. But there are some things I just don't want to do, like having a roof redone or woodworking or tinting windows, tiling, or plumbing, but I've learned that through experience too. Otherwise, how would really know?
3. Because I'm not afraid to fail, if a company invests time in me, I'll eventually outperform my peers. And it feels good to learn and do things, even if I fail or spend more money in the process, that's worth the extra money in itself. And I do like being seen as a kind of expert that gets called in to fix the mess when everyone else is flailing.
Moral of the story. Most of the time, people like to pretend they know more than they do, or they want to stop other people from trying and failing and eventually succeeding. And maybe this is just a difference of values. But I'm a person that enjoys the process, especially if it's hard, frustrating, and stressful and in the end I succeed despite.
But I will concede that it gets a little tiring when people contradict each other so often on here and don't care or only seem to want to hear their own voice. That doesn't make anything clear at all and kind of defeats the point of discussing this.
@Uncle Ave
Just my impression, but you sound like an intuitive type; you describe imagination a lot and there's little talk about down-to-earth ideas or thinking or just sensory stuff in general.
I'm also guessing you're an extrovert, by your own admissions of pressuring in relationships, not being able to be detached, and general reactivity described.
What Adam said about Fi might be right, but I wouldn't rule out EIE. I think sometimes socionics like to pigeonhole certain things to certain dichotomies, but the way you describe relationships and what you want out of them seems just healthy to me and I don't know if that's necessarily Fi.
Out of curiosity, do you think you are more Dialectical-algorithmic or vortical-synergist (per Gulenko's cognitive styles), or other cognitive style, when around other people? I'm only asking because I think what you said about impressions and joking and such could apply to LIE or EIE, though socionics probably says it's Fe.
Dude, I have enough money saved up. I've been thinking about doing this, too.
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