Some hope is healthy.Originally Posted by Adam Strange
Some hope is healthy.
As insurrections go this was pretty tame in reality.
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I think I saw some at my local Costco. Sam's Club and Costco I'm pretty sure will let you "browse" about, but you need to be a member before you can buy the stuff they're selling. Hit those up. Hell, many already have. I know I'm right about a lot of this shit as I can see the shelves in both Costco and the regular gorcery stores slowly becoming barer and barer.
People are in varying states of denial right now about how bad shit's about to get. I'm at "pretty fucking bad" as I know about shit like the Dynastic Cycle and how that tended to play out. As we get closer and closer to the 20th a realization that "shit's about to hit the fan" will dawn upon more and more of the population. I'd do a search, join if they got that item, and buy as much as ya can. You likely won't get a second chance.
Also, that TP obsession... Most people don't wanna have to resort to the "the rock" or "the thumb" if ya catch my meaning. It's a modern comfort most are quite unwilling to part with.
Main triggering point about that. Compare how that's getting covered by the MSM to how they covered the BLM riots (yes, they were riots). DC was literally on fire a few months ago and that was a "mostly peaceful" protest according to the talking heads. Yet this fireless break-in is an act of "domestic terrorism" and "insurrection".
Hell, an unarmed female vet got shot for no good reason and there are no riots. Suddenly, "kill all them racist cops!" became "Way to go Cops, waste that bitch gangsta style!"
And people wonder why I predict that shit's going to end badly for everyone no matter which side they're on...
I will also throw something out here as it perfectly describes what's going on right now: Attachment 16603
That's our reality right now. Again, that doesn't end in any way but bad. I regret that I can't find a way to make that image show up without clicking that text but give it a gander. The man's not wrong. At this point, it all boils down to who you see as friend and who you see as enemy. At this point, it's all about helping friends kill enemies. I wish this was not the case, but, well, my "enemies" have made their intent crystal clear.
I must die for their utopia to be realized. The fact I see Earthly Utopias as literally impossible to realize but that we may be able to get close if we but only try to actually try to understand each other and treat each other as the beloved creations of an ultimately benevolent deity is "whiteness" (i.e. an original sin) in the worldview of our current elite. Like I said, our dogmas are diametrically opposed.
To use another example that builds onto my next point, we both worship different gods that mandate we destroy the other worshipper. Say a Christian and a Molochian were forced to live under the same roof. The Molochian fervently believes they must sacrifice babies to their god as that proves their faith and thus rewards them with benefactions for doing so. The Christian sees this as a most absolute evil and must try to save the babies from the Molochian as if they do not they are complicit in a mortal sin (i.e. the murder of innocents) and will thus be damned to hell eternal if they "tolerate" their roommate.
The Molochian, in contrast, sees this insane Christian as an absolute idiot for no true god would fail to demand such a complete and undeniable show of loyalty! That god is the god of pussies and cowards and is not worthy of your worship! Better to drag you into a "real" religion's gatherings you heathen than suffer your ill conceived and flat out wrong notions of mercy dragging you into a world of disappointment and unnecessary hardship!
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Lmao. thanks! I found some last night, but I went to a different town! Thank god! Whew! Geezus, people use their thumbs? Hope they at least wash their hands good. I’ve told a few random strangers in stores that the toilet paper thing is weird, that they can use anything, and they look at me like I’m an alien. Well they prob think I’m crude, too, but Geezus people!
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I have a bad feeling about Inauguration Day. Was reading the news and it really hit me. I’ve never felt this amount of chaos and conflict stirring in our country in my life.
As for what’s going on behind the scenes, I feel like it’d be arrogant for me to assume. We get most of our info from main stream media and corrupt politicians. I agree a lot of people run with what the news tells them, which is often biased and twisted, and I see people just parroting this crap, too like @squark said.
There has been a rumor going around that I haven’t found much info about, and i don’t know if it’s true, but people have been talking about it for some time. According to these people, the shit has started to hit the fan. I went to the grocery store yesterday evening and they were sold out of a bunch of things I haven’t seen sold out since the beginning of the pandemic. I think a lot of people are worried, and believe in the conspiracies, more people than one may realize, because people often don’t talk about it, for the same reasons people didn’t say they were voting for trump.
And sorry but I don’t like the fact that twitter & Facebook & whoever else banned Trump. Just don’t like it at all. I don’t think it’s cute or funny. More worrisome than anything. I think so many people are blinded by their hatred for trump that they are failing to look around at what’s going down.
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You are correct that there is a cultural aspect to all this. It's a "both" scenario. Yeah, we're pissed that our jobs got sent overseas or otherwise outsourced to foreigners who will work for half the pay while also (in many cases) possessing half the IQ we do (and you can bet your ass that's already starting to have significant consequences). But, to make matters even worse, our "overlords" hate us for, well, being us and not much else. Conservative, White, Christian, anti-woke, of common origin (don't forget that "rich/upper class" white people don't much like those "below" them very much and that's a commonality across all races) and all that entails. As I've said many a time, everyone has a religion and our overlords have one too and it is founded upon everything we are not. A diametrically opposed dogma to our own. I wish I was being hyperbolic here but anyone who has done the research will fail to conclude that I am.
The people that hate us hate Trump just as much if not more fervently. Been quite a long time since any so called "conservative" got the kind of hate he got and he's not even Conservative. Hell, he's essentially a Business Democrat from the 90's time warped to the current era! That fact convinced people he was genuine whether he was or not and thus he garners the support he has and will if certain rumors about his next course of action turn out to be true. Don't expect a lot of complaints from half the country if he declares martial law for example...
I've said it above. Stock up now because riots and civil unrest are guaranteed at this point. Fully half the country will not accept whatever administration gets sworn in on the 20th as legitimate. "The Mandate of Heaven" has been lost. The successful revolution that will replace this system is already underway. Who will win and what the system that replaces this one will look like I do not know. All I know is that the Lord has already won and thus there is no reason to despair.
Still, get armed, and get a well stocked larder going. You don't want to brave the grocery when people who are packing heat and a considerable amount of wrath are desperate for food and essential supplies.
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Oohh we’ve been preparing for a while.
My SO has a gun addiction buying habit and we have have quite a bit of ammo last I knew. But I need to find more Coke Zero. That’s what I’m really worried about. Screw toilet paper. People can wipe their ass with about anything, I don’t get the toilet paper thing.
lol they killed parler.com.. Parler has now been booted by Amazon, Apple and Google: https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/09/t...ore/index.html
The Cyberpunk dystopia has arrived.. get in samurai.. we have problems. It seem to me that every small to medium business online and offline is in deep shit one way or another.
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I usually don't post politics anymore since it's retarded, but for those that can't see past mainstream media:
1. The belief that the people that stormed the capital are representative of Trump supporters. This is false lol. They are a tiny fringe of Trump supporters who deserve to go to jail. There were maybe around (a max) of 250 people that stormed the capital. On Wednesday there was a total of around 500,000ish people. This is 250 out of 500,000 people to put in perspective. Of course, the liberal left + news media uses this to smear and attack Trump supporters and go after him specifically to spread the false belief that Trump incited the violence.
2. Trump did not schedule this rally. This wasn't a Trump rally. This was a stop-the-steal rally. Organizers put this together, not Trump. When it was growing, Trump decided to show respect and speak to the people that decided to come out. It was an hour long speech. Now the intention of the organizers was to 1. have a big gathering 2. march over to the capital NOT to break in, but to be around capital grounds so people inside the building can know a lot of Americans don't appreciate what's going on. There was no plan to engage in violence and 99.9% did not do any of that.
3. Trump did not incite any violence. It was an hour long speech. I'm sure most people didn't even watch the speech. Watch it. Read the transcript. Read every word. There is nothing there. Most of what Trump did was reinforce election fraud. He laid out some evidence in Pennyslvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. When it came to marching over to the capital, he told the crowd to "PEACEFULLY and patriotically march next to the capital, to CHEER ON those brave senators that are standing up for us." This was (of course) twisted into something he didn't say; just like what happened with the Ukraine blackmail, just like what happened with the Russia collusion. Trump's main point was for people to go out their and let their voices be heard.
Of course, when news is filtered by CNN, twitter, facebook, etc this information is gonna be filtered into things that fit the liberal mantra.
I felt like responding to this, in part bc it's a nice numbered list.
I actually agree they are not representative of most Trump supporters (nay, they are the ultimate dupes). I tend to see them as Trump's most devoted and crazy, and honestly rather stupid. They read between the lines, and that messaging Trump knew some people were getting. It seems that what they did hasn't accomplished much good for their cause, or really for any of our causes. I rather like civil unrest in the sense that I think the "common person" which is most of us is being controlled by wealth and power, and although maybe we can't change that, I would like the powers that be to be less cruel. But it is too much to hope they will fear from such events as this, as they can always spin these events back to their advantage. The primate hierarchy is firm and unyielding as much as I don't want it to be.
IMO Trump has always invited chaos of this sort. He speaks with two tongues, one that says "no, I want peace and law and order and don't condone hate" and another that whispers "doooooo it" between the lines. He is deliberately not clear when he should be. I did try to give him the benefit of the doubt for a while, and I tried to entertain his perspective, but all I could see in the end was the pattern of a narcissist. He betrays even his own supporters because the only one who matters is him (and yes, maybe the few people he cares about).2. Trump did not schedule this rally. This wasn't a Trump rally. This was a stop-the-steal rally. Organizers put this together, not Trump. When it was growing, Trump decided to show respect and speak to the people that decided to come out. It was an hour long speech. Now the intention of the organizers was to 1. have a big gathering 2. march over to the capital NOT to break in, but to be around capital grounds so people inside the building can know a lot of Americans don't appreciate what's going on. There was no plan to engage in violence and 99.9% did not do any of that.
See above. When Trump is unclear in his messages about what he is for or against, it is on purpose. Two tongues.3. Trump did not incite any violence. It was an hour long speech. I'm sure most people didn't even watch the speech. Watch it. Read the transcript. Read every word. There is nothing there. Most of what Trump did was reinforce election fraud. He laid out some evidence in Pennyslvania, Georgia, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc. When it came to marching over to the capital, he told the crowd to "PEACEFULLY and patriotically march next to the capital, to CHEER ON those brave senators that are standing up for us." This was (of course) twisted into something he didn't say; just like what happened with the Ukraine blackmail, just like what happened with the Russia collusion. Trump's main point was for people to go out their and let their voices be heard.
and they are still evil, but that doesn't mean Trump is good (to put it in black and white).Of course, when news is filtered by CNN, twitter, facebook, etc this information is gonna be filtered into things that fit the liberal mantra.
He pretends to be a friend, but he is as much an enemy as any of the wealthy elites who toy with the people as if they are gods.
PS: one could mention how I voted for Biden as though I think Biden is what Trump is not, but I don't. But I don't attach to Biden like he is some divine gift to the presidency. I know he's bad. I just had to vote for what I thought was less bad (and my vote didn't matter anyway because as much as ppl complain about election fraud our entire system is BS because the electoral college makes it so).
Sup @squark long time no see, I thought your post was pretty good except your opening line, which is retarded.
Lets be honest its your attitude + everyone else that has made it very difficult for Trump these past 4 years. Now that he is in the process of being impeached, lets admit this has MUCH more to do than what happened at the capital.
This is about revenge, to be the only president in US history to be impeached twice and go into the history books. This is about smearing and destroying his personal, family, and business life. Because everyone in America, even in private and business, see Trump as damaged goods. Everyone wants to shame, bully, and intimidate people into NOT doing business/being involved socially with Trump.
Why?
--Revenge for daring to beat Hilary Clinton
--Revenge for not being a fucking puppet to Washington
--Revenge for forcing through the conservative agenda that he did
--Revenge for actually getting taxes lowered in America for Americans + corporations
--Revenge for reducing regulations on corporations
--Revenge for all the pro-life policies
--Revenge for putting 280+ judges on federal benches all across the country that are conservative + christian + prolife
--Revenge for appointing 3 conservative supreme court judges
--Revenge for fighting for evangelical christians and protecting religious freedoms
--I can list many more, you get the point
Everyone is so furious and hate him with such a passion, and for Trump daring not to be intimidated and take on the media pisses everyone off. Anything and everything that comes out of his mouth automatically becomes a scandal; racism, evil, xenophobic. And I have to log into this forum and read everyone's dumbass cry-babying comments on him for 4 years
I don't hate Trump. He's done more good than bad as a president imo, something that cannot be said about Clinton, Bush, or Obama. He's not a bad person overall imo, and I think he truly does care about our country and wants to "Make it Great" . . . but he also wants to make sure he gets the credit for that. He mentions this every other sentence. He does far too much to feed his own ego in that regard. He has some good and some bad policies. He was a far better choice than the alternatives, which is why I voted for him this time around.
But he is a fool too, and his ego gets in the way. He's not a leader, he's a cheerleader. He just isn't. He flip-flops based on whoever last had his ear, and you have to hope that someone with sense and decency is talking in it, or else he does really dumb things. People banded around him imo because they want someone who speaks for them and he was the closest thing they could get. Some of his policies are good for the people, far more so than our last few presidents. So, it's not unwarranted.
Then there's the whole Q group of idol-worship, which is a whole nother story. They are imo looking for a savior. They really wanted to believe Trump was that guy and convinced themselves that he was. But he isn't and never has been that guy. The establishment does hate him, and absolutely have been trying to take him down because he is an obstacle. He's revealed them, but he whines constantly, and caves too often. He's done some very positive things and put some stumbling blocks in their way which I'm grateful for. It's given some people tools to work with to do more. That's good, because one person is never going to be able to do enough, even if they manage to become president.
Being honest about his faults doesn't hurt him. Lying about him does - and that's what the media does constantly. They do it on purpose imo. His supporters do it out of hope? I'm not sure. But failing to see that he isn't some kind of hero messiah just makes a person delusional.
Finally, you're making this all about Trump, and it's not. He's the foothold to a much much bigger problem. His demonization was a means to demonize others. And it spreads. It goes far beyond him. Salami tactics is what it is. I'm hoping there are enough good people that stand up now and fight against this, because there's a whole lot more at stake than Trump's reputation. Everything that has been pushed for the past 4 years starts to make more sense when you realize that's the tactic. Framing him as a fascist and a racist isn't revenge on him, it's to frame everyone associated with him as the same. Paint everyone who supports him as some kind of white supremacist and then you have an excuse to go after them too. Guilt by association.
There are currently people losing their jobs and being investigated just for being present during that rally, when they never even got near the building itself. People talk about how parler is being shut down - well, it happened years ago to Gab, and the founder of that site not only was denied hosting services and had to build his own servers, but all payment was refused to him. He couldn't accept any money through his site by any credit card or payment service, and could only use bitcoin, wire transfers and checks. His app was kicked off all the app stores. And even his personal credit cards and those of his family members were revoked, so they can't even have a credit card for personal use. Trump isn't unique or the first. And he has more resources than most to fall back on, so don't make it about Trump. Those that actually are blinded by hate for the man will only laugh the more bad that befalls him and never make the connection that this is only the beginning if we don't stop it. That he is the president and so high-profile will hopefully bring attention to what is happening, but it's been happening unnoticed to others for a long time already.
100% agree. I voted for trump, too. Zero regrets. I think some people might be surprised by that fact, as I haven’t openly said it for obvious reasons. But yes, I agree he is a narcissist. Like how all the celebs (well, the majority, and the ones that if there is Illuminati, then they are prob it) and big corps are supporting Biden and Harris. Nothing funny about that whatsoever...I think people should be more worried than they are. Personally I’m extremely worried. Banning trump from all those platforms and the impeachment...My moms been calling me every few hours freaking out...’make sure your gas tank is full, get groceries. do you have enough groceries??things are going down..’which is just giving me more anxiety lol...But she’s been doing this for a year (big conspiracy theorist)
anyway, glad to see post again squark
I want to give you an A for effort but your statements on Trump are very vague and general, which is how 99% of people here + outside the forum have described him these past 4 years without giving specifics. I see the words "fool", "lies", "dumb things", etc but I don't see the backing behind those words.
And when people do give specifics, it's out of context off some CNN website or it just falls apart like jenga blocks because they're simply parroting bumper sticker statements that sound cool @ your little hugbox. Your stance is also very lukewarm; its like you compliment him but then diss him because everyone else does. Lol
Then you do some weird mental gymnastics here, but I'm pretty sure we're in agreement
This impeachment IS about revenge on Trump + the conservatism he represents (as I've already mentioned). We live in a very liberal/PC society, Trump is a threat to that, that's it. It's not about the fat bald dude with the nose ring.Finally, you're making this all about Trump, and it's not. He's the foothold to a much much bigger problem. His demonization was a means to demonize others. And it spreads. It goes far beyond him. Salami tactics is what it is. I'm hoping there are enough good people that stand up now and fight against this, because there's a whole lot more at stake than Trump's reputation. Everything that has been pushed for the past 4 years starts to make more sense when you realize that's the tactic. Framing him as a fascist and a racist isn't revenge on him, it's to frame everyone associated with him as the same. Paint everyone who supports him as some kind of white supremacist and then you have an excuse to go after them too. Guilt by association.
But on TOP of that,
Pelosi and the rest of the cocksuckers are impeaching Trump based off NOTHING he did wrong. He has a week left and they're trying to do some last minute super move like a boss in a video game. But they are grasping for straws, the same one-trick pony they've been doing for the past 4 years, starting with the Russian collusion when they (illegally) spied on his campaign.
A waste of time. It's not gonna go through because it's baseless.
It's kinda pathetic how people are trying to frame DT as violent. Like Wtf lol.
People here are literally trying to pull anything out of their asses last minute. Im taking note of it. Disgusting
The worst is when people link videos of hillbillies LARPING with Red MAGA hats raising their pitchforks as evidence for white supremacy (do people actually fall for this???)
Here you're just confused and veering further away from the topic. LolThere are currently people losing their jobs and being investigated just for being present during that rally, when they never even got near the building itself. People talk about how parler is being shut down - well, it happened years ago to Gab, and the founder of that site not only was denied hosting services and had to build his own servers, but all payment was refused to him. He couldn't accept any money through his site by any credit card or payment service, and could only use bitcoin, wire transfers and checks. His app was kicked off all the app stores. And even his personal credit cards and those of his family members were revoked, so they can't even have a credit card for personal use. Trump isn't unique or the first. And he has more resources than most to fall back on, so don't make it about Trump.
Anything that involves free speech + conservatism will be negatively impacted, yes.
I understand though,
It's hard to associate with Trump because of the stigma it gets, like it doesn't improve your social status in any way.
I've been "cancel-cultured" from my friends, not a very pleasant experience (very scary at times) but it is what it is
I know you don't like everything about Trump, but I'm glad someone here is actually intellectually honest
4 years of societal conditioning will influence most people
"HATE TRUMP"
"TRUMP BAD"
"TRUMP LIE"
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The two sides of the same coin will merge someday and create a nightmare beyond our comprehension.
@inumbra I hitted like by accident.
@Donald Trump
Tremble with terror, YOU ARE FINISHED
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The state of people on this forum:
José Ortega y Gasset - The Revolt of the Masses (1930)Left and right are just two of the many ways available to a person to be imbecile
Alexis de Tocqueville - Democracy in America Vol. I (1830)A proposition must be plain to be adopted by the understanding of a people. A false notion which is clear and precise will always meet with a greater number of adherents in the world than a true principle which is obscure or involved
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the rioters intending to prevent the formalization of Joe Biden's election victory? Couldn't the prevention of the enforcement of an election result credibly be called an attempted coup d'état, even if it came from a disorganized and ineffectual mob?
If a protest and whatever they were doing in the Capitol counts as “acting to prevent.” If Joe Bob down the street says he’ll fight the election results, is that an attempted coup? What is he going to do? What were these protesters going to do? Calling it an “attempted coup” just makes it sound more dramatic than it was, and makes whoever is calling it that seem hysterical.
I saw the break in in regards to the capital building as more of a "put the fear of God" into them move. It had no real purpose far as I could tell except to be a real life shitpost. If they were intent on actual insurrection or murdering of political adversaries they would have come in with heavier weaponry and would have, one must admit, actually collected a few heads instead of mere hard drives. The memes resulting from the photos of cowering congress creatures is a thing I will forever see as a very good thing that resulted from all that if nothing else.
Governments ought to fear their people, and it's always nice to see concrete proof that Etienne De La Boetie was most correct in his sick burn upon the nature of all tyrants. Look him up, read his "Discourse on Voluntary Servitude" if you are unfamiliar with it. It's one of the works that made me the kind of political animal I am today. You'll know the burn the instant you start to read it and I don't care what side you're on in all this I bet money ye shall repeat it to anyone you seek to burn in turn. It's really pretty damn sick. Well, so long as insults to one's potential masculinity don't make you out to be some kind of istaphobe or some such. Only non-Death Cultists/SJWs are able to truly appreciate that master class in issuing an insult from one man to another
A fitting song for the new age of censorship:
I'm counting down the days
The future feels so distant
A lot of things have changed
And few have been resistant
Devaluation reigns
And fear of self destruction
Adapt or be replaced
And follow their instructions
So lay waste to all we've made
For your corporate palisade
You won't automate our roles
If we digitize our souls
A new force will intervene
Half human, half machine
And no enterprise on Earth will make us kneel
To your empire of steel
Recoded, we'll reboot
An uprising is moving
And the power you misused
Will soon be your undoing
We'll give you what you need
Though not quite what you were meaning
And we'll reap what you have sown
We are the soul of this new machine
So lay waste to all we've made
For your corporate palisade
You won't automate our roles
If we digitize our souls
A new force will intervene
Half human, half machine
And no enterprise on Earth will make us kneel
To your empire of steel
To your empire of-
To your empire of steel
(And we'll reap what you have sown)
To your empire of-
So lay waste to all we've made
For your corporate palisade
You won't automate our roles
If we digitize our souls
A new force will intervene
Half human, half machine
And no enterprise on Earth will make us kneel
To your empire of steel
To your empire of steel
To your empire of steel
Wonder if those parts are about Elon Musk's vision.
There are a lot of news services with a lot of different views. I read several of them, but my go-to source of reliable information is AP News. They have been rated as being in the middle of the political spectrum, and their news has a very high "truth" factor. Many of the other news outlets post stories which originate from AP News.
They aren't as left as I'd like them to be, but maybe a strict reporting of the truth isn't as left as I'd like it to be.
They recently had a story about who the Capitol protesters were. Here is a link.
https://apnews.com/article/us-capito...a68acd6b55cace
From the article:
WASHINGTON (AP) — They came from across America, summoned by President Donald Trump to march on Washington in support of his false claim that the November election was stolen and to stop the congressional certification of Democrat Joe Biden as the victor.
“Big protest in D.C. on January 6th,” Trump tweeted a week before Christmas. “Be there, will be wild!”
The insurrectionist mob that showed up at the president’s behest and stormed the U.S. Capitol was overwhelmingly made up of longtime Trump supporters, including Republican Party officials, GOP political donors, far-right militants, white supremacists, members of the military and adherents of the QAnon myth that the government is secretly controlled by a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophile cannibals. Records show that some were heavily armed and included convicted criminals, such as a Florida man recently released from prison for attempted murder.
The Associated Press reviewed social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other public records for more than 120 people either facing criminal charges related to the Jan. 6 unrest or who, going maskless amid the pandemic, were later identified through photographs and videos taken during the melee.
The evidence gives lie to claims by right-wing pundits and Republican officials such as Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., that the violence was perpetrated by left-wing antifa thugs rather than supporters of the president.
I like how they are stoking a civil war with the 25th amendment, impeachment, and banning trump shit. That Nancy Pelosi is one nasty piece of work.
Gamma business is severing ties with the Trump organization.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...eturning-to-it
https://www.theguardian.com/business...h-donald-trump
https://apnews.com/article/nyc-termi...074c894de31612
Trump's business is about to be in a world of hurt.
Still, by claiming that he needs money to "fight the steal", Trump has collected about $250M in a slush fund that he can use for whatever purposes he wants. This alone is motivation to keep up the pretense that he won the election.
Keep those cards and letters coming in, folks.
In other news, 15,000 troops have been called to Washington to attend the inaugural.
Trump is being Canceled. Here we go
While I agree that impeaching Trump at this point is beating a dead horse, I think the man needs to be held accountable for his own actions. He is impeachable, and should probably be held accountable for his actions one way or another.
He deserves it. Again, accountability, folks, everyone seems to take the blame for stuff except Trump in Trump's view.Trump is being Canceled. Here we go
Why do you feel you should defend him, Aster?
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Not a big fan of cancel culture. Don’t care whose side people are on. Did you see what they tried doing to Chris Pratt?? They tried ruining his career for being private about his political opinion. To me, that’s just insane.
anyway ‘holding people accountable’ isn’t really my forte, personally. I just got chewed out by my 11 year old last night for not disciplining my 8 year old.
I don't like cancel culture either, though I wouldn't associate holding Trump responsible for his actions with it.
I didn't see the Chris Pratt thing, but there are alot of such stories. I agree it goes too far. Otoh I still feel Trump should be held accountable for inciting the riot against the capitol.
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:3 cute hehehe
the man is basically a 90s democrat, a gamma SEE business mogul who lied to get elected, kept only those promises which were convenient and instead of firing the swamp, he surrounded himself with it. His family has some real shady ties and such to shady ass ppl e_e I doubt most ppl will miss or like the guy, fuckem.
Plus we got bigger fish to fry, such as silicon valley ponzy scheme monopolies and liberals on both the right and the left who are in their pockets.
Yep, I agree, which is why I think the impeachment is a bit moot and wasteful resource-wise. See my response to asd above.
Yep, agreed again, in the end alot of things we talk about in the media are smokescreens...
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That's what I heard too, though I also think he's done for in politics, really. I doubt he'll make a comeback in four years, so to me it feels one hand like wasting time and resources on something just for partisan reasons, and I do see where Aster is coming from if that's what she means. On the other hand, he needs to be held accountable one way or another for what happened, though I am not sure a second impeachment is the way to go.
I'm not well-versed in law so I can't contribute a huge amount to this issue.
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I think it's ambiguous, but I think Trump is intentionally ambiguous. He's not going to directly ask his supporters to be violent, but he hopes they will be. He leaves them ambiguous statements so that they may read between the lines. He will ofc denounce them afterwards, less ambiguously, to save himself.
I think there is a bit of a difference between that and actually storming the capitol as though it's a hostile takeover, personally. That's why the word "insurrection" started being used--it went beyond riot and civil unrest.
This bothers me because I don't think it's good for these private entities to have this kind of power. I would rather the government have it. The constitution protects citizens from the government (I'm referring mainly to the 1st amendment) not from private entities that can more and more determine who is allowed to speak or not (be heard), which other smaller businesses are allowed to exist or not, who can have a bank account or not--they can basically outcast someone from society all on their own. They are not voted for. They have too much power.
If Trump is guilty of insurrection, it should not be up to them to deliver the repercussions imo.
Yeah, I also thought his speech was ambiguous, probably purposefully so. I wouldn’t doubt if he was watching it all on tv smirking the entire time tbh. But will they be able to find him guilty of insurrection since it was so ambiguous, is what I’m wondering?
The guy is a despicable human being. He's proven this over and over. I have a hard time understanding how anyone with a moral sense can look at what he does every day and give him a pass. I wish someone would explain it to me.
The law says that you can't discriminate by race, color, creed, etc. It says nothing about having to give your business to people charged with insurrection.
The law distinguishes between criminal and civil penalties.
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