2020 Disunited States of America Election

[consentingadult]

George Carlin wasn't wrong

actually, he was on his POV that "the owners of this country don't want that...". The thing is, obviously the owners of any country don't want the people to be smart, but they don't have to do anything to keep them from becoming smart. They only have to feed the people's inclination towards short-term gratification. Even if they were to do the right thing, and try to raise the cultural level of the people, they would fail. As marketing guru Philip Kottler one said: "Don't give people what they need, give them what they want!" And what do they want? Panem et Circenses.

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actually, he was on his POV that "the owners of this country don't want that...". The thing is, obviously the owners of any country don't want the people to be smart, but they don't have to do anything to keep them from becoming smart. They only have to feed the people's inclination towards short-term gratification. Even if they were to do the right thing, and try to raise the cultural level of the people, they would fail. As marketing guru Philip Kottler one said: "Don't give people what they need, give them what they want!" And what do they want? Panem et Circenses.

You illustrate the contrary nature of their desires perfectly. See, the "owners" want to have their cake and eat it too. They want slaves, but they also want those slaves to have IQ's that are 130+. That would mean that the slaves would have to willfully accept their enslavement despite the fact their mental faculties far outclass their supposed masters.

Sin dims the intellect. The fact that Lucifer is the lord of this world matters but that can only carry our current rulers so far. There is no John D. Rockefeller or Nathan Rothschild amongst them now. Their sins have had time to compound and thus their progeny coast upon their ancestor's successes whilst failing to understand how and why they even succeeded in the first place.

Carlin, being an atheist, failed to grasp the full truth of his convictions. But he managed to grasp just enough to become downright prescient. Political Correctness is indeed fascism disguised as good manners. The "Conspiracy Buffs" are indeed more likely to have struck at a truth than a falsehood. Public Education is meant not to teach your children the truth, but to indoctrinate them into being "obedient workers" just smart enough to fill out the paperwork yet just dumb enough to not notice the big red, white and blue dildo being shoved up their ass every gosh darn day.

I'll ask a final question. See, for me, this whole debacle has two very positive endings. See, either Trump wins in the courts/wins a contingent election 26-24 or he loses and Biden is rigged in, but that just proves to the over 50 percent of the population that actually matters that our "democracy" is, was, and will always be going forward a farce and sham of unimaginable proportions.

Mises wasn't a Political Science or History major in the modern sense, but he got the point. See, governments ultimately rule by consent. It can be active, or it can be passive or even unwilling (e.g. after you show some primitive tribe what a friggin' nuke can do, yeah, they'll hail their new Ceasar). Either way, they consent. To rule over a people who doesn't consent? Yeah, not exactly a thing you can pull off long term.

[SGF]

You sent them off to cities afar
To bleed out in the sand
That blind wave will break in fire
Right where the outpost would stand
You sent forth the best you had
To serve your new guests' needs
But West is West and East is East
Never the twain shall meet, no

Not in my name, oh, no, not in my name
Don't take me for a fool
Not in my name, oh, no, not in my name
For I am on to you

And with your virtues so out of touch, boy
There's not much left to hold
Any second thoughts now, hungry much?
They starved you out of a home
With what is left of what is right
And long lean thorns between
We'll unleash a war so utterly vain
No man has ever seen yet

Not in my name, oh, no, not in my name

Don't take me for a fool

Not in my name, oh, no, not in my name

For I am on to you

You claim all blades are sheathed now
But you put half a world to flight
For what you want this nation to be
We deem the price too high
And these paths you dare not tread -
and this you don't want to know -
But we marked them with our dead
So many years ago (and who)

Who fought and died and who
Never needed you
They never needed you
They never needed you

(All we say is break these chains)

[SGF]

Lol I'm done. Reap what you sow I guess.

[Donald Trump]

VOTERS FRAUD is what gave Biden the WIN! FAKE and SILENT media has a big influence. I DEMAND a recount of the votes! It would only be fair to the people of the United States of America.

[consentingadult]

VOTERS FRAUD is what gave Biden the WIN! FAKE and SILENT media has a big influence. I DEMAND a recount of the votes! It would only be fair to the people of the United States of America.

Are you going to pay for the recount? I guess not, you won't even pay yourself for the law suits filed on your behalf, and instead ask your fans to fund those. Everyone can see it's a scheme to reroute some money of the public to expensive lawyers. Everyone, except those Trump adepts who see conspiracies everywhere, except those conspiracies by the Trump clan that takes the money out of their wallets right in front of their faces. Hillary was right when she called these people Deplorables. Suckers...

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Are you going to pay for the recount? I guess not, you won't even pay yourself for the law suits filed on your behalf, and instead ask your fans to fund those. Everyone can see it's a scheme to reroute some money of the public to expensive lawyers. Everyone, except those Trump adepts who see conspiracies everywhere, except those conspiracies by the Trump clan that takes the money out of their wallets right in front of their faces. Hillary was right when she called these people Deplorables. Suckers...

Err, the World Economic Forum has literally created a website that categorically proves the likes of David Fucking Icke as officially not being crazy. Literally "You will eat the bugs, Live in the pod, own nothing, and like it you worthless plebs!"

Here's the link: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

Yeah, several of you called me crazy when I stated our literal Satan Worshiping overlords had this shit in mind as their end goal. How crazy am I now?

Also, if you're unironically behind that BS, than you're demonically obsessed at best and possessed by thine own will at worst. If you're among the latter than I literally can't save you. You have chosen Satan over Salvation....

[SGF]

Err, the World Economic Forum has literally created a website that categorically proves the likes of David Fucking Icke as officially not being crazy. Literally "You will eat the bugs, Live in the pod, own nothing, and like it you worthless plebs!"

Here's the link: https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

Yeah, several of you called me crazy when I stated our literal Satan Worshiping overlords had this shit in mind as their end goal. How crazy am I now?

Also, if you're unironically behind that BS, than you're demonically obsessed at best and possessed by thine own will at worst. If you're among the latter than I literally can't save you. You have chosen Satan over Salvation....

weird suit.. is he some kind of space communist?

[kingslayer]

weird suit.. is he some kind of space communist?

Yes. The head of the world economic forum, a group dedicated to the advancement of neo liberal global capitalism, is a secret space communist.

[raTG13]

weird suit.. is he some kind of space communist?

LSE can get weird, especially as they age and start loosing it.

[consentingadult]

Seems like someone forgot to change their account before changing into their troll suit.

As for me, I go by the adagio of Jose Ortega y Gassett: "left and right are just two of the many ways available to a person to be imbecile."

[gone]

All politics is fake and every politician no matter who is a deepfake pedophile anyways

[consentingadult]

All politics is fake and every politician no matter who is a deepfake pedophile anyways

Politics, in the sociological sense, is just another word for 'power', thus, not fake at all. At the risk of being called a Beta: Power a.k.a. Politics is what makes the world go round. Everything else is idealistic illusions and a negation of how reality really works.

Justice, and worse, Social Justice, are simply human constructs. Only Power is real. Even better: Social Justice is just another rationalization in the quest for Power; a quest for Power disguised as something that claims to oppose Power. The sooner you get to terms with that fact, the greater the chances that you can create a pleasurable life for yourself and your loved ones. Even if you are EII and make yourself believe I'm talking sheer nonsense.

All's fair in love and war...

[khcs]

[khcs]

Tom Hanks - ISFJ Dreiser



Detective Columbo - ENFP Huxley

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[khcs]

Laurence Fishburne - INFP Yesenin

Steve Carell - ESFP Napoleon

[khcs]

Heath Ledger - ENFJ Hamlet

[khcs]

Dilbert - INTP Balzac

Boss - ENFP Huxley or ESTP Zhukov

Wally - ISFP Dumas

[khcs]

Jeff Cooper - ISTJ Gorky

[khcs]

The name of the "Stop The Steal" symbol is Fraudstika.

[xerx]

[ouronis]

Looks like we won everything, now we just have to make sure Trump doesn't steal it and replace our voting system with temper tantrums.

[Adam Strange]

Looks like we won everything, now we just have to make sure Trump doesn't steal it and replace our voting system with temper tantrums.

Never underestimate the capacity of liberals to fight divisively among themselves.

One of the advantages that conservatives have is that when one of them starts shouting “The sky is green, and Hillary committed the crime of the century by using the wrong email server”, then every conservative falls into line and starts shouting the same thing.
Unity, even completely stupid unity, can be very powerful.

Witness the one true platform of the Republican Party for at least the last fifty years. “Reduce taxes on the rich.” Say anything, but at the end of the day, reduce taxes on the rich. It worked, and is the primary source of economic inequality today.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have no consistent platform, and instead are pulling this way, then that way, and have been consistently out-maneuvered by the conservatives when it comes to attaining goals.

What we have now is a temporary backlash against the worst president we’ve ever seen. I don’t expect it to last. Unless we kill Fox News.

Fox News isn’t really a news service so much as it is a propaganda machine which organizes the conservative masses to group-think. And conservatives do group-think. It is one of their defining characteristics, along with being more fearful in general and having a strong tendency towards supporting punitive leaders.

Anyone who thinks that Fox is a news service needs to explain why knowing less about provable facts is correlated with watching more of Fox.

[FreelancePoliceman]

Never underestimate the capacity of liberals to fight divisively among themselves.

One of the advantages that conservatives have is that when one of them starts shouting “The sky is green, and Hillary committed the crime of the century by using the wrong email server”, then every conservative falls into line and starts shouting the same thing.
Unity, even completely stupid unity, can be very powerful.

Yeah, any observer of national politics can tell the Republicans are incredibly united right now [/sarcasm].

Democrats have their own stupid bugbears. For 4 years it's been "Russian interference."

Witness the one true platform of the Republican Party for at least the last fifty years. “Reduce taxes on the rich.” Say anything, but at the end of the day, reduce taxes on the rich. It worked, and is the primary source of economic inequality today.

Meanwhile, the Democrats have no consistent platform, and instead are pulling this way, then that way, and have been consistently out-maneuvered by the conservatives when it comes to attaining goals.

Democrats and Republicans often support the same goals. On any substantive issue they differ when the factions of the ruling class they represent differ.

What we have now is a temporary backlash against the worst president we’ve ever seen. I don’t expect it to last. Unless we kill Fox News.

Bush II wasn't even 20 years ago.

Fox News isn’t really a news service so much as it is a propaganda machine which organizes the conservative masses to group-think. And conservatives do group-think. It is one of their defining characteristics, along with being more fearful in general and having a strong tendency towards supporting punitive leaders.

Christ, you can practically only find any degree of skepticism over masking and lockdown measures in conservative media these days. Liberal media's stance on masking flipped overnight and the same people making fun of others for wearing masks are now just as earnestly shaming people who don't wear masks.

Anyone who thinks that Fox is a news service needs to explain why knowing less about provable facts is correlated with watching more of Fox.

Because correlation isn't causation. It seems unlikely to me that watching Fox magically causes you to forget information. More likely it's that more uneducated people watch Fox.

Most conservatives are like animals. They have a fantastic instinctual sense for discerning when their experience and what they're told don't line up, but they don't have the background or individual ability for making a constructive framework from their observations. Liberals, and the sorts of conservatives and libertarians who fancy themselves intellectuals, don't have this ability and are annoyingly credulous if what they're being told comes from a "reliable source."

Since you like statistics re. differences between conservatives and liberals, liberals trust the media more. Even more alarming (especially if you consider yourself a liberal), liberals' trust in media has increased in the past few years, even as they've gotten shittier and shittier.

[xerx]

Honestly, even if Sanders had managed to eke out a victory, it's not clear that his presidency would have been good for progressives in the long run. I'm sure he would have accomplished some important things, but his presidency, as a whole, would have been a damp squib. His policies would have been blocked by both Republicans and his own party, and these failures probably would have been spun as the failures of Socialism as a whole. The corporate media would have been relentless, and 'Brezhnev Sanders' could be primaried in 2024.

If he resorts to issuing executive orders in order to bypass the limitations imposed by his own parties, he would be painted as a tyrant along with the entire progressive movement.

The truth is that the Democratic and Republican parties are how they are because their voters want them to be. It isn't just corporations that have benefited from tax cuts, so have many wealthy suburbanites. Things will only change once the next generation of voters—which has been badly hurt by the current economic policies—dominates the electorate and votes according to its economic interests.

[aciaradh]

Honestly, even if Sanders had managed to eke out a victory, it's not clear that his presidency would have been good for progressives in the long run. I'm sure he would have accomplished some important things, but his presidency, as a whole, would have been a damp squib. His policies would have been blocked by both Republicans and his own party, and these failures probably would have been spun as the failures of Socialism as a whole. The corporate media would have been relentless, and 'Brezhnev Sanders' could be primaried in 2024.

If he resorts to issuing executive orders in order to bypass the limitations imposed by his own parties, he would be painted as a tyrant along with the entire progressive movement.

The truth is that the Democratic and Republican parties are how they are because their voters want them to be. It isn't just corporations that have benefited from tax cuts, so have many wealthy suburbanites. Things will only change once the next generation of voters—which has been badly hurt by the current economic policies—dominates the electorate and votes according to its economic interests.

I agree with you that Sanders would've had a tough time passing policies in office. However, I don't know if the third paragraph can necessarily be said to be the full story (at least in poor, rural areas). Even in counties where Trump won and other Republicans won, progressive measures (such as marijuana legalization, support for M4A) had clear majority support among the populace. While some might say that this is due to lack of education among the voters about what the parties truly stand for, an equally valid conclusion would be that this was a vote of lack of confidence for Democratic leadership, even when very progressive measures have widespread support. But I guess at the same time, the general populace may not care enough about politics to care to instill new leadership/want "radical policies," so I don't really know Aside from that though, I 100 percent agree that change won't even be possible until younger voters have much more sway in elections.

[Misfit]

the biggest terrorist is trump, not islamic terrorism. islamic terrorists are just reactionaries reacting in an unjustly brutal way to western antagonism and war crimes, and imperialism, these white nationalists are just the devil led by the antichrist.

[xerx]

I agree with you that Sanders would've had a tough time passing policies in office. However, I don't know if the third paragraph can necessarily be said to be the full story (at least in poor, rural areas). Even in counties where Trump won and other Republicans won, progressive measures (such as marijuana legalization, support for M4A) had clear majority support among the populace. While some might say that this is due to lack of education among the voters about what the parties truly stand for, an equally valid conclusion would be that this was a vote of lack of confidence for Democratic leadership, even when very progressive measures have widespread support. But I guess at the same time, the general populace may not care enough about politics to care to instill new leadership/want "radical policies," so I don't really know Aside from that though, I 100 percent agree that change won't even be possible until younger voters have much more sway in elections.

Yeah, it isn't the whole story. I agree about the general apathy and political ignorance. The media is good at manufacturing both.

[lkdhf qkb]

Yeah, it isn't the whole story. I agree about the general apathy and political ignorance. The media is good at manufacturing both.

There is a base tone of spiritual dissatisfaction that can be sensed in most Western democracies, it's a crisis not only of democracy and politics, but of the whole western way of life(capitalism included). Right now, nothing gives people something to look forward to, people believe in nothing and end up emprisoned by the present.

When I look at the pictures from the Capitol riot, I see that the big majority are men. Men that don't want to look forward, but want to have the past back. Wether it's the Confederation, a second Trump presidency, whatever makes them feel they have a hold on their lives and role to play. What does it mean to be a man in the 21rst century?

[xerx]

There is a base tone of spiritual dissatisfaction that can be sensed in most Western democracies, it's a crisis not only of democracy and politics, but of the whole western way of life(capitalism included). Right now, nothing gives people something to look forward to, people believe in nothing and end up emprisoned by the present.

When I look at the pictures from the Capitol riot, I see that the big majority are men. Men that don't want to look forward, but want to have the past back. Wether it's the Confederation, a second Trump presidency, whatever makes them feel they have a hold on their lives and role to play. What does it mean to be a man in the 21rst century?

I fully agree. These and other men haven't adapted well to the modern world, can't use their existing talents, and are being left behind. Trump and other populists are just symptoms of an underlying malaise that isn't going away anytime soon. Women, OTOH, have adapted to the modern world and are starting to beat men in a few important indicators.

[/QUOTE]

Fight Club is easily one of the most perceptive and underappreciated films ever made. The commodification—and the subsequent loss of control—of all aspects of life under capitalism is certainly unnatural and unliberating to a lot of people.

[Adam Strange]

What does it mean to be a man in the 21rst century?

If you look around, you will see that you are one man (or woman) among many others. Very, very, very many others.

If the world contained only you, then you could do whatever you wanted without restrictions. Add another person, and your rights are cut in half.

After you add a few billion other humans, then the fact that you have an existence AT ALL, much less one which allows you to live beyond the dreams of 99.999% of all the people who have ever lived, should make you realize that your scope for action has been radically curtailed. You need to walk a very narrow line to stay where you are.

You don't have to stay where you are. You can move to Somalia, or to the middle of the ocean, where your rights are whatever you can maintain, but if you want the easy life you have, you have to conform, as does every other person in your situation who enjoys the fruits of the labor of others.

[Misfit]

riots declared in dc, pro trump rioters storm capitol hill. government put on hold. trump fails to properly condemn, wrapping nicely asking them to leave with another claim of landslide victory and voter fraud. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1783488.html

[DEAD]

I find the whole set-up amusing.

[End]

To all who are not Trump supporters, hear this. As I am not a sociopath and do care about my enemies (even as they dearly desire I die horrifically) I will give you all some advice.

Buy a gun. The Civil War 2.0 is about to kick off it seems now. Don't be the idiot who thinks gun control was ever going to work here in a nation founded upon it. 3d printers are a thing now and if you got one you can literally print most of the critical components of one. Just need a rifled metal pipe of X length and boom, print the gun of your friggin' choice now. Good luck stopping that shit!

Buy a few big bags of rice/flour/cornmeal/any milled or easily cookable grain. Yeah, see, who do you think all the farmers voted for? Think they don't understand that all their "enemies" are city slicking dumbasses who can't even into basic agriculture? Hell, fun experiment, ask some random commie/ANTIFA/Biden Supporter how hydroponics/Aquaponics/raised beds work. How about crop rotations? Nutritional value of common vegetables? At this point, I'd say knowing the answers to any of those may get you labled as, you guessed it, a follower of he who bore the funny mustache!

And finally, don't get in our way. Even if Trump fully cucks out, we won't buy it. After all, the PTB can and will put a gun to the heads of your own friggin' children if it means they can get what they want. Sadly for them, they can't put a gun to all those we may care about in every way and sense without glassing the whole damn planet. As they actually want to rule over some serfs, well, killing everyone including themselves is an obvious bluff that we can safely and gladly call them on.

This isn't meant to be a threat, it's meant to be an exposition of a logical thought process. Bad shit, at this point, is going to happen. Say you're a cop in DC facing a mob of thousands. They send you a single thinly built man who has a very persuasive voice. He lays it out for you.

"Ok, you and I may not agree on all this but here's what's happening. We're going inside that building because the only thing those sociopathic and satanic fuckers understand is fear. Thankfully, they're all a bunch of pussies. None of us have any weapons, our mere breaching of their sanctum will be enough. We are going to do this. The only question you have to ask is this: Is your paycheck worth dying for what you must certainly already know are the absolute worst examples of humanity? You've seen it all, you know what they are far better than most. Thousands of us, many already within melee range, and only a few dozen of you."

So... how will you decide how this plays out?

[FreelancePoliceman]

To all who are not Trump supporters, hear this. As I am not a sociopath and do care about my enemies (even as they dearly desire I die horrifically) I will give you all some advice.

Who're your enemies? People who aren't Trump supporters? Which of them desire you die horrifically?

[leckysupport]

To all who are not Trump supporters, hear this. As I am not a sociopath and do care about my enemies (even as they dearly desire I die horrifically) I will give you all some advice.

Buy a gun. The Civil War 2.0 is about to kick off it seems now. Don't be the idiot who thinks gun control was ever going to work here in a nation founded upon it. 3d printers are a thing now and if you got one you can literally print most of the critical components of one. Just need a rifled metal pipe of X length and boom, print the gun of your friggin' choice now. Good luck stopping that shit!

Buy a few big bags of rice/flour/cornmeal/any milled or easily cookable grain. Yeah, see, who do you think all the farmers voted for? Think they don't understand that all their "enemies" are city slicking dumbasses who can't even into basic agriculture? Hell, fun experiment, ask some random commie/ANTIFA/Biden Supporter how hydroponics/Aquaponics/raised beds work. How about crop rotations? Nutritional value of common vegetables? At this point, I'd say knowing the answers to any of those may get you labled as, you guessed it, a follower of he who bore the funny mustache!

And finally, don't get in our way. Even if Trump fully cucks out, we won't buy it. After all, the PTB can and will put a gun to the heads of your own friggin' children if it means they can get what they want. Sadly for them, they can't put a gun to all those we may care about in every way and sense without glassing the whole damn planet. As they actually want to rule over some serfs, well, killing everyone including themselves is an obvious bluff that we can safely and gladly call them on.

This isn't meant to be a threat, it's meant to be an exposition of a logical thought process. Bad shit, at this point, is going to happen. Say you're a cop in DC facing a mob of thousands. They send you a single thinly built man who has a very persuasive voice. He lays it out for you.

"Ok, you and I may not agree on all this but here's what's happening. We're going inside that building because the only thing those sociopathic and satanic fuckers understand is fear. Thankfully, they're all a bunch of pussies. None of us have any weapons, our mere breaching of their sanctum will be enough. We are going to do this. The only question you have to ask is this: Is your paycheck worth dying for what you must certainly already know are the absolute worst examples of humanity? You've seen it all, you know what they are far better than most. Thousands of us, many already within melee range, and only a few dozen of you."

So... how will you decide how this plays out?

You're starting to sound like Antifa/anarchist crazies just before the BLM riots.

[kingslayer]

You're starting to sound like Antifa/anarchist crazies just before the BLM riots.

He's sounded like a wacked out moron since the first post I've ever seen him make, where have you been?

[marooned]

Trump is not my cult leader. I disapprove of cults. If you can think beyond left vs. right, there is hope. If you can't, we are lost. If you can't see that, pity us all.

[xerx]

@End do you really think that you rust-belt / coal-belt / dixie boys would win a civil war? The first time around, your side wasn't industrialized. The second time around.... your side isn't industrialized.