This is not an attempt at self harm and a cry for help. Advice?
How Can An SLI Win Over An EIE QT?
This is not an attempt at self harm and a cry for help. Advice?
Rape her.
Good luck w that, I wouldn't hold my breathOriginally Posted by LemurianLo
EIE-Fe Creative 7w8 748 Sx/So VELF
Thank you for your confidence in my endeavor. You're right, oxygen is important. I'll remember to breath when I talk to her.
You made the thread, bro. That was my advice
EIE-Fe Creative 7w8 748 Sx/So VELF
And I loved it bro, keep the wisdom coming.
I'd honestly say though, EIE's are quite the ones to play games with you. My best friend is a lesbian SLI, and her ex is EIE, and the EIE got her through her worst times ever, took advantage of her caregiving ways and such, basically traumatized her quite a lot. Not to be a dick and shit on your plate, but it's a nice thing to keep in mind, all in all, you do you and stick it in, buddy.
To that point, what i'm getting at is that conflictor ideation is basically doomed from the start. The potential of pain, misunderstanding and abuse is way more likely when two people have no inherent respect for eachothers strengths
EIE-Fe Creative 7w8 748 Sx/So VELF
Exactly. It's common for Ne suggestives to want to idealize things, mostly if they're Fi mobilising, but that's when my type comes in to throw the Ne knowledge, I tend to help my SLI bestie with these things a lot, she doesn't take most of my advice though, and ends up getting in shit situations that hurt her, but oh well, not my fault if people have masochistic tendencies.
Why would anyone bother with their Conflictor?
Bro.. just imitate LSI behavior, its ez.and good luck.. plz describe the interaction.
You a 6w5 like me, should go smoothly.. *digs a hole big enough for 1 coffin*
Last edited by SGF; 10-13-2020 at 10:22 AM.
Yeah, man, act like Shotgun, act like a pussy, it'll work outBro.. just imitate LSI behavior, its ez.
You a 6w5 like me, should go smoothly..
LSI's always come across to me as really pedantic SLI's who have their shit together
Just be yourself and move on if it doesn't work. The world is full of people, trying to imitate something you aren't is never going to work.
OP is sadomasochistic
Drop your caregiver attitude and adopt an aggressor one instead. Ie don't offer her a slice of cake, just let her get it for herself and while shes at it ask her for a slice for you, if she complains reply to her with a Ti argument and get ready to repeat this over and over. Never let her to win an argument or let her to see that she flapped you. Just keep immutable in your own will and thoughts. If she says something thats interesting keep asking specifics about it and get her dig in the topic.
Rely in her as a compass in social area, pay attention to her criticisms of other ppl and always hang around with her or with a bunch of friends (especially a group with gamma or beta dudes, and Fe girls). You need a group of friends or gang where your look cooler, also were to show your mischievous traits and a place to show your affection.
Don't ignore her emotional attitude, instead, get energized by it, laughing or making comments seconding her via Ti and Se. Accept almost always her suggestions of going to clubs, get drunk or whatever kind of activity she propose.
You also need to get a new expensive car and start to workout to get some muscles and get an income (in case you need it). Fe girls don't want to hang out with a loser (or think in whatever makes you look cooler, strong and successful, it depends on cultures). Also remember that aesthetics are just to show off or fit in a group and comfort is mostly a way to remember others and yourself that you reached certain social stage. Work on your facial gestures and movements, you need to look strong, beautiful and worthy of her attention. You need to show her that she also needs to earn your attention and Fe is the way of doing it. Always keep in mind that she doesn't need a Daddy to aid her.
Though, you probably are going to feel tired after performing this all.
The second option is easier and healthier. Just be yourself and get her disenchanted overtime when she discovers that there's nothing more than what she sees and that you don't like to go to clubs but to stay at home and that you are going to act more like a dad telling her whats good and making her get some rest from all that stress and that social activity. She also would need to change her tone and dont act like a person who needs to be institutionalized each time you didnt do something she expected to.
That said, If you know well this EIE and you keep interested in her (and she is into you), I'd say go for it. If you don't know her (neither she really knows you) there's a chance that you or her are going to feel displeased sooner than later and lose interest in each other (that happened to me with EIE). Whatever the case is, get your own experience and don't let astronics to rule over your life.
Last edited by Hope; 10-15-2020 at 08:26 PM. Reason: wording
Tommy, u are the only SLI who is worthy of the Chad title
Jesus Christ lmao
I'd just give the cake,but when I want a slice I tend to just directly order people to give me a slice.. to which the response sometimes is that I should be more polite, which I subsequently ignore ofc. and behave the same next time. Ti arguing is sadly a reality.. I must always be right.
Damn, that sounds like a lot of work.. socializing sucks dick. It always drains me and leaves me in a near depressive emotionally inexpressive state that only sleep can cure. Socializing is like kryptonite.. or an Achilles heel.Rely in her as a compass in social area, pay attention to her criticisms of other ppl and always hang around with her or with a bunch of friends (especially a group with gamma or beta dudes, and Fe girls). You need a group of friends or gang where your look cooler, also were to show your mischievous traits and a place to show your affection.
Myeah, I shoot these things down, surprise outings I don't want to do are not welcome, especially if it involves being social with ppl I potentially don't know or care for.Don't ignore her emotional attitude, instead, get energized by it, laughing or making comments seconding her via Ti and Se. Accept almost always her suggestions of going to clubs, get drunk or whatever kind of activity she propose.
Meh. Practical A to B car > black hole on 4 wheels. While I agree with getting jacked for STR & aesthetics.. doing that social work and showing off is cringe af. The car is an even worse idea. Prefer to invest that $ and be smart about it, modest & honest.You also need to get a new expensive car and start to workout to get some muscles and get an income (in case you need it). Fe girls don't want to hang out with a loser. Also remember that aesthetics are just to show off or fit in a group and comfort is mostly a way to remember others and yourself that you reached certain social stage. Work on your facial gestures and movements, you need to look strong, beautiful and worthy of her attention after that you also need to show her that she also need to learn to earn your attention and Fe is the way to doing it. Always keep in mind that she doesn't need a Daddy to aid her.
Yeah, the effort is not worth tbh for pussy.Though, you probably are going to feel tired after performing this all.
Sounds like a better plan. Then he can tell her to get her shit together or fuck off and bother some other simp.The second option is easier and healthier. Just be yourself and get her disenchanted overtime when she discovers that there's nothing more than what she sees and that you don't like to go to clubs but to stay at home and that you are going to act more like a dad telling her whats good and making her get some rest from all that stress and that social activity. She also would need to change her tone and dont act like a person who needs to be institutionalized each time you didnt do something she expected to.
Advice: avoid any woman who is or was a feminist.. like the plague. If she has debt, RUN. If she constantly causes drama, avoid.
That said, If you know well this EIE and you keep interested in her (and she in you), I'd say go for it. If you don't know her (neither she really knows you) there's a chance that you or her are going to feel displeased sooner than later and lose interest (that happened to me with EIE). Whatever the case is, get your own experience and don't let astronics to rule over your life.exactly.
You kind of forgot to add that EIE have a philosophical-mystical-political side to themselves with so much damn Ni-Ti that it even overwhelms the LSI's Ni-HA.. e_e at least in my experience. I wonder how SLI fares considering that lvl of symbolism and abstraction sometimes repels even me due to overload exhaustion.
Last edited by SGF; 10-15-2020 at 05:36 AM.
In my experience talking to EIE with heavy Ni usage.. at first I'm very interested in the ideas and engage with it.. but then it just keeps coming and after several days of this there is so much Ni information to process that my Ni-HA shuts down and I'd rather sleep or bust rocks than continue talking and thinking about it.
What Ni laden info does for me tho is plants seeds in my mind and those sprout later into thoughts and insight I can potentially make use of.
I don't have experience with EIE's use of Ni that I've particularly noticed at least, usually too focused on the Fe I guess but I do have a IEI sister who growing up with I would condescending make fun of as being dumb due to her excessive use of Ni and Te-Polr. Even now as adults she doesn't share her Ni insights so to speak with me as she learned to stop doing so in our youth as I'd just make fun of it as silly and dumb. Whenever she does though it's usually chastising a ridiculous Ne seeking adventure that I decide upon taking every now and then. Also have an LIE boss who shares his grand social media marketing schemes with me but while uninterested in them I usually find them very sensible and never have an issue with his sharing his ideas. I consider them sometimes but quickly lose interest. Just relating my experiences with Ni here.
Yeah, EIEs are going to be like your sister, but they will actively try to influence ppl around them trying to get them to go along with their Ni insight born ideas in a mentoring kind of way. Idk if other EIEs are like this, but from experience there is this teacher vibe where they impart Ni insight they expect you to consider and comment on or even act on or otherwise will try and convince you of. It usually is about grand things on a social scale.
Kinnda like John Lemon's Imagine (the dude is said to be EIE by Gulenko)
I usually find flaws in these, criticize and watch it burn down like the Hindenburg.
Last edited by SGF; 10-16-2020 at 04:12 AM.
Punches are the daily bread of aggressor/victim duality.
It's quite common to be lustfully attracted to a conflictor, like incredibly so. Conflictors are very attracted to each other irl actually because its incredibly magnetic and like a heterosexual jigsaw puzzle piece just fitting together perfectly (until gay feelings come up of course) The p/j thing can be so insidiously subtle!!!
Before pursuing, I would just tell yourself or continually re-check yourself to make sure it's not 'just lust'. The thrill & intensity of the sex would naturally die down anyway over time as you guys aren't compatible. If you really want to make it work- jeesh how could you tho, since the more personable you got the more irritated you would be (assuming you got the types right).
I guess you could provide and do stuff for her like she was a faux-IEE. I guess potentially speaking, EIE females can be less overbearing and "annoying" about their EIE-ness compared to the males so maybe that's how it could work.
As strange as it sounds I've never had problems with EIE's before. I'm definitely Fe Polr as ESE's drive me freaking nuts but my experience with EIE's is that they don't have that same overbearing mother like "let me fix you" behavior regarding Fe that ESE's do so I've been fine with them and haven't heard any complaints from EIE's towards me.
why do you call everything heterosexual (something). like, we get it, you are gay and quirky
I think that's pretty common. Conflictors will often know not to piss off the opposing type, as long as the confliction isn't too obviously known. It's not like I crash LSEs bible study group and tell them how stupid I think their religion is while shoving ripped pages of the Bible up my butt. It's not like they come into my gay pride parades and openly call me a filthy sinner and try to crash my fun. ((I mean usually we're not treating each other this way)) lol Conflictors will often go out of their way with each other to not hurt feelings- unlike supervisor who just blabbers on and can't understand why the supervisee is reacting that way to their objective, benevolent advice etc.
I think the confliction only comes out if you try to get really close or 'deep' (like close friendship or romantic partner), if you know to keep those boundaries then the confliction won't really appear. However if you claim it's still good and you can be deep/personable then you must have the type(s) wrong or something cuz it doesn't make sense (or socionics is full of shit =D), or it could be a subtype of conflictor that you get along better with etc.)
This is also why I think two conflictors can be very good 'regular' friends or semi-friends even. It can be the best of 'acquaintances' or work relationships because of this.
Honestly, man, buddy, my innocent dual... You do you, be yourself, and do what your heart tells the flesh bag you're trapped in to do. If you gotta do that to learn something, then do it, suffering is the best to shape someone's personality.
As I've said before, you're not the first SLI i've seen who is like this, my SLI best friend takes the most stupid decisions ever. Though I admire the foolish desire, you got balls.
One cannot win people over like they're a prize for getting to the finish-line first. Thinking that this is possible with an EIE, who prefers to be in the lead, is perhaps an omen. One can perhaps attract someone's attention temporarily by themselves being very physically attractive and or by having something that the other wants but good luck will be needed for anything long-term.
I/O
Take them out into the middle of nowhere and then start jumping around on all fours and making pig noises
EIE women like to roleplay that scene from Deliverance?
I've never seen that movie but you should give it a shot
Last edited by ContractedCriminalboy; 03-27-2021 at 03:49 AM.
tell her "U got tickets?"
and when she asks "ticket for what?" u reply,
"THE GUN SHOW" (flex muscles)
Last edited by Computer Loser; 10-16-2020 at 08:32 AM.
The only way to attract a female conflictor is through superficial means like looks, clout/money or being known for having a big dick. Your personality isn’t going to grow on her
I think looks is probably the easiest way to get turn off from conflictor.
Lots of Se creative women look like internally dead plastic dolls. It is informed but painted in industrial manner.
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Nah, EIEs are hot as hell man.
EIEs are very socially out there/extroverted and SLIs are very introverted, I think arguably the most introverted. From my observations of real life SLIs, the SLI has to be the one who pursues the personal relationship, otherwise with the vast differences of energy levels, it would be hard for SLI to handle being pursued by someone so extroverted.
I think due to Si lead to mob Fi, they have to like the person and go after them. SLI lead with Si which is tangible harmony and not victim like Ni lead ILI so they will pursue. They likely won’t go after someone who’s so socially gregarious/loud, which includes IEEs and it’s because IEEs are so childish that it makes SLI avoidant. IEEs are insanely inept and do seek out SLIs but SLIs don’t want instability and chaos. Compare EIE and IEE, EIE are more stable and willing to have stability over IEE. EIE are purposeful and orchestrated, so maybe that comes off as intense but SLIs are more likely to deal with intense slow burn rather than babysit with childish chaotic thing.
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