ESFp

[DEAD]

Maybe it would be better if you assess yourself on Fi and Fe scale first. Do you mostly follow the mood of the social environment even if you feel otherwise?
Delta STs are terrible at this, just like Gamma NTs. Either they know what they’ll say will ruin the mood or not, but either way they’ll rather put their views out there. It’s normal for these types to be social blackholes (at least for Fe valuers)

No, I don't see the point. Not that I can't most of the time, I just don't and I say what's on my mind and things when it has to be said.

[DEAD]

So it is also the case that you don't really have the need to be validated by others and have your feelings reciprocated (you may appreciate if people react to you but overall you just care about your own conviction)? If so, you should just focus on Delta and Gamma types.

I barely care about either, to be fair.

[DEAD]

You should consider Delta/Gamma types but just to be sure you should check for Ti too. Why do you think you could be Ti ego?

Yeah, if I am a Delta type, it's going to be an ST type because I do not think that I am intuitive, feeling type (NF) because I don't use Ne as a dominant function, and I don't have PoLR/Role Se. I definitely am not an idealist, nor am I much of a Humanitarian at all. I've been called pragmatic more times than I have a humanist. I do think that if Quadras have any value to them (which they might, but to me they come across as pretty "clique-ish", which may also be a product of the translations from Russian as well). I guess I have to do more research into the Quadras and see if they're as valid as I think they are:

I think maybe I have Ti because:

• I want things to make sense for me, no matter what the case may be.
• I like to organise things based on an order that I think works best based on size (probably not Ti, but anyway).
• I like to learn things, and for them to be effective.
• I like to store up facts, and I like to accumulate knowledge about topics.
• I admit that I like to debate things for fun, but it's not a priority of mine.
• I try to be conistent and calm when I can (it's mostly my default mode).
• I also admit that I'm not the best arguer in terms of 'logic', unless I have my facts straight and my arguments ready (again, probably just common debate practice), but I can convince people nonetheless.

That's what I think. A lot of people think I am either SLE or SEE. It's mostly the SLE that think I am SEE, and the SEE that think I am SLE, weirdly enough. I also get the odd SLI/SLE suggestion, and have gotten LSI before. It's weird.

[Rebelondeck]

Your self-description seems inconsistent which may point to XEE but this may be due to word selection also:

to make sense, no matter what the case may be is more T-like
organise things based on an order is certainly Se
to learn things, and for them to be effective is more Ip-like
store up facts, and accumulate knowledge is more Ip-like
like to debate things for fun is more N-like
consistent and calm is more Ij-like
not the best arguer and arguments ready is more Ij-like

a.k.a. I/O

[DEAD]

Your self-description seems inconsistent which may point to XEE but this may be due to word selection also:

to make sense, no matter what the case may be is more T-like
organise things based on an order is certainly Se
to learn things, and for them to be effective is more Ip-like
store up facts, and accumulate knowledge is more Ip-like
like to debate things for fun is more N-like
consistent and calm is more Ij-like
not the best arguer and arguments ready is more Ij-like

a.k.a. I/O

To be honest, some of the most inconsistent people I know are logical types and I don't think that has much to do with Typology in general. I think that's just "human things" and should be accounted for as such. No one is going to be totally consistent, or inconsistent. I don't know why that's counted as a part of a type at all. And I'm not really expecting to be accurately typed from that list. I'm just giving reasons and thoughts on the spot as to why I might be Ti ego. But thanks for your insight and breakdown of things but according that, I am probably more ST than SF or NF.

[Rebelondeck]

To be honest, some of the most inconsistent people I know are logical types and I don't think that has much to do with Typology in general. I think that's just "human things" and should be accounted for as such. No one is going to be totally consistent, or inconsistent. I don't know why that's counted as a part of a type at all. And I'm not really expecting to be accurately typed from that list. I'm just giving reasons and thoughts on the spot as to why I might be Ti ego. But thanks for your insight and breakdown of things but according that, I am probably more ST than SF or NF.

Barring psychological problems that would make any type inconsistent, Eps tend to be unfocused with respect to themselves mostly because their noses are pointed outward. They can be very objective and pursue things relentlessly but they simply don't seem to give much priority to analysis as if they don't really want the answer because they're only in it for the journey and the novel information that it might produce. This is perhaps why their duals are critical observers. I've had to stop many Ep and nail their feet to the floor in order to get a product because when they're forced to think seriously long enough, they can be the most insightful. However, many seem to lose faith in themselves and their abilities.

a.k.a. I/O

[Eliza Thomason]

Yeah, if I am a Delta type, it's going to be an ST type because I do not think that I am intuitive, feeling type (NF) because I don't use Ne as a dominant function, and I don't have PoLR/Role Se. I definitely am not an idealist, nor am I much of a Humanitarian at all. I've been called pragmatic more times than I have a humanist. I do think that if Quadras have any value to them (which they might, but to me they come across as pretty "clique-ish", which may also be a product of the translations from Russian as well). I guess I have to do more research into the Quadras and see if they're as valid as I think they are:

I think maybe I have Ti because:

• I want things to make sense for me, no matter what the case may be.
• I like to organise things based on an order that I think works best based on size (probably not Ti, but anyway).
• I like to learn things, and for them to be effective.
• I like to store up facts, and I like to accumulate knowledge about topics.
• I admit that I like to debate things for fun, but it's not a priority of mine.
• I try to be conistent and calm when I can (it's mostly my default mode).
• I also admit that I'm not the best arguer in terms of 'logic', unless I have my facts straight and my arguments ready (again, probably just common debate practice), but I can convince people nonetheless.

That's what I think. A lot of people think I am either SLE or SEE. It's mostly the SLE that think I am SEE, and the SEE that think I am SLE, weirdly enough. I also get the odd SLI/SLE suggestion, and have gotten LSI before. It's weird.

You are really helping me understand the SEE in my life. I puzzle over how she thinks but Socionics perspective helps.

Can you please give me some examples of organizing things based on size?