Last edited by Belladonna; 02-03-2021 at 02:38 AM.
@Vex @SnatchYourWeave why y'all have such an interest in me?
Also, @FreelancePoliceman thought I seemed Se valuing in private conversation, so it's not just @sbbds opinion.
Are SLE/SEE's supposed to like drama? I'm not that type of girl regardless of type. It's why I mostly steer clear of women, or at least the type that like to be clique-ish.
But if y'all need something to do, carry on.
Um.. I didn’t go out of my way to look or search, actually. It’s just common sense that they’re going to be there out of 200 posts on this forum.Odd that you're obsessed enough to look for these posts (which I've mentioned multiple times, but you keep passively aggressively ignoring, that she's meticulously deleted to project a certain image), but I can't be bothered to search for any
It’s odd that you’d assume I’d have done that or to describe someone as “meticulously deleting something to project a certain image”. I literally don’t understand where these impressions about her are coming from (hence the 4D Ne typing), which is my motivation for asking you for examples.
You seem to think being asked for concrete proof on a discussion forum is “surreal” and “nonsensical”...You asked for reasoning and I gave it in 2 or so posts. It must have been good, because after that you've been hung up on "evidence" ever since because you know it isn't there, and you've since dragged it out by asking all these nonsensical questions that border on surreal. And now you're trying to pin the mess you made on me. You started the discussion, I responded since I was trying to get clarification. But you bastardized it with all these nonsensical questions.
In any case, I don't think people are "supposed to be convinced" by what I say. I mean, I did put effort into what I wrote, but I'm not treating it like law. It's just my line of thinking regarding Valued 4D Ne and Demo Ne, as someone who is usually typed as EIE. If people don't agree with my typing of her, all is well, but I hope the information I typed up can at least provide some insight into the differences between 4D Ne.
I did think your reasoning was potentially sound, which is exactly why I asked for something concrete to reference it with. Otherwise all I have to go off of is your own (or our own) impressions and memories, which are of course going to be biased.
Stop, I can only get so aroused from the sheer tension in this thread
EIE - Ni | Creative | 4w3 sx/so
буду безукоризненно нежный,
не мужчина, а ó облако в штанах!"
I didn't meticulously erase certain posts. I did want my type me threads gone, because I was done with them & not looking to be typed. I just deleted as many posts as I could, before I stopped to do other things irl. I wanted to mainly be done with the forum & was trying to erase my entire existence on here, for the most part.
imo my ENFP guy friend is way more "metaphorical" than me.. but ok..
Not sure what the bolded is getting at but sounds personal and d33p. Interesting IMO to not care about concrete proof/evidence while being Se valuing, although I guess it’s probably as much if not more about Te.
I’m glad you could finally directly admit this and cut through the bull.Even now, you're still going on about the damn "evidence" when I've told you there is none on the site that applies to what I said.
You could have found posts of hers currently existing that would have hinted at this behavior though, or at least provided a better argument on why you think she would have “meticulously deleted her posts to create an image”.... these are highly specific assessments which you aren’t backing up at all here. What you are doing is being toxic and passive-aggressive. It doesn’t register to you as something wrong.
Iím glad I could make you angry after I made you laugh.I just got beyond aggravated with how sbbds got chaotic with the circular and nonsensical "evidence" reasoning. I think people are missing that.
I wonder why you think ďpeople are missingĒ that but it might be like why you think people are ďmissingĒ other things you think exist.
Just like Iíll believe youíre referencing real things about SadParty deflecting othersí logic (and somehow doing this without logic herself??), even though the evidence got deleted. And just like you could see other things like the above so well too.I'll believe SadParty if she says she deleted the posts since she said she didn't want to be on the site. I didn't see the post on the previous page when I was arguing with sb.
This thread got hella derailed. Guess this thread has become my new type me thread, without me making it so. Regardless (however it was intentioned) I don't see being an Ne dom as an insult.
@Vex If by “typo” you are going to be as petty to point out how I wrote “like like” instead of “be like”, you must not mind sharing that it would have been incredibly retarded of you to be unable to figure the meaning out for yourself.
I’m typing from my phone on a 56kbps connection.
Anyway, you have consistently been making posts containing negative comments towards or about SadParty / LMFAO, saying things like “she would try to bend people's argument's against each other without really using structure or logic, more to deflect things and keep herself entertained” and “she's meticulously deleted [posts] to project a certain image”. That you deny them as being negative or critical doesn’t change the fact that they are being seen as such by others. You don’t seem to have any proof to back up your opinions. You’re free to your own opinions, but to constantly keep bringing them up with negative comments in unrelated threads could be construed as bullying.
So someone who wants to play with everyone with their own rules is Fi creative. This seems like fractured viewpoint already. So I fail to see why they would like lead masses in first place as their own goal.
The role of diplomat or politician (SEE)/psychologist or advicer (IEE).
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Life is a joke but do you have a life?
You were the first one to offer criticisms. I obviously didn’t ask for them, so I’m not sure why you’d try framing me for those, and yourself, the criticizer, as having clean hands here. Oh wait, because you’re toxic and gross, I remember.
I asked for your thoughts. I was genuinely curious. That’s not asking for negative opinions though.
If you give negative opinions related to type, you should be able to back them up, period. Not be dismissive and show no remorse for it.
Otherwise, it’s easy to use type as an excuse to make shitty judgments of others.
I’m glad you’re trying harder to make friends now though. Hopefully it’s genuine this time.
I know Iíve frustrated you when you started your appeal to hypocrisy by making the snide comment about my tattoos in relation to my typing. I know you were implying that Iím doing the same thing as you and that Iíve self-type myself as SLE and catered my image to fit the ďbadassĒ stereotype. That made me laugh at your desperate attempt at grasping straws by deflecting. Unlike most people on this forum, Iíve already been professionally typed. I was typed at the start of this year by WSS. Sol asked me to post a typing video and I posted the link to it. So no, SLE isnít my self-typing, itís really my type from an objective, reputable socionist. You can look for it and see if my upper body tattoos were there or not. Since you deal better with speculative info rather than direct, HINT: the last time I was tattooed was 4 years ago and it wasnít on anywhere visible. I first got exposed to Socionics 10 months ago. Do the math.
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Look, I donít care what type you are or what LMFAO is or what anyoneís type is. I didnít want to say anything from the beginning because I could tell you both would deflect, obfuscate, and play victim if direct honesty and structure is demanded. And sure enough this is the mess. I get it, this forum consists almost wholly of hobbyists so thereís a lot of stereotypical info being passed around. Attacking Vex wasnít cool either, especially since she sincerely took a lot of time to explain her reasoning based in cognitive theory which you both purposely buck and dismiss.
Online typology forums is rifled with mistypes. My main source of frustration stems from the fact that most people donít understand the purpose behind typology, let alone how to honestly self-type. The general reasoning for cognitive typology is actually simple- to explore your mind and understand yourself. This is merely a tool for self-improvement but the reality of typology is extremely brutal. Itís meant to strip away your defenses and expose your weaknesses, because problems arise for the individual due to their weaknesses, not from strengths. The layperson almost always uses typology (of any sort) to coddle and validate their fixations of delusions rather than work on throwing away their delusions. The utility of typology ends up being abused and mishandled as a security blanket. So then I ask, whatís the point? Why bother learning bits and pieces of theory just to morph it to bolster your ego if you want to be any type of your choosing? Thatís dishonest and illogical. You can lie to yourself but donít pass off your lies to others.
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Notice that some other people liked my posts in there where I was trying to ask you to explain yourself. I donít think my inferences were unreasonable at all. I didnít even disagree with you, I just said I had different experiences at the end.
In fact I liked some of your posts in there, and was one of the first if not the first to like your photo post in there, while I noted that you didnít even like mine. Iíve liked some of your posts elsewhere on the forum too. Even though youíve exploded at me multiple times with textwalls like this and typed me EII (lol), Iíve been cordial to you. My comment about tattoos wasnít personal, it was to highlight possible contradictoriness with regard to what you said about othersí values. Iím not sure where youíre imagining ill will from me, but if youíre going to continue being like this and replying to me to get my attention, Iím just going to block you.
Also, I donít think Jack Oliver Aaron is infallible either, though I do agree with most of his typings and like him as a person.