I can relate Tallmo. I told my mom to stop giving me "cute" and basically infantile shit at one point lol....and just figurines and stuff that will create clutter. I'm a long ways from where I want to be design wise in my home, but I'm making do with what I've got for now. I was watching some home show at the car shop and it seemed so beautiful, but also kind of sterile? I think I need just a slight touch of whimsy, at least. I'm not sure @ more natural for women. In my family my dad was the neat freak (and an EIE, mind you). My mom is somewhere in the middle... other 2 siblings and nephew, slobs. It made me think it could have some to do with rational vs irrational too, but well... you've proved me wrong sir. A lot of it probably is outside what socionics can explains, tbh. Birth order??? (I'm the oldest, so are both my parents)