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    You are very thoughtful, inumbra. I know I said this to Duschia above when I took time to respond sincerely to her many questions, but that was because I then assumed she was a person of goodwill, and I do not think that now. I am glad to see that you are not hostile. That is so wearying.

    What you share here is a different approach to thinking about religion than I have experienced it. I do not have a clear response so I risk useless words if I try now. To me the truth is clear, and stands out brightly. It is simple, yet deep. It is how Jesus is in the gospels. Simple, true and deep.
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
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    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
    - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"

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    The thinking of F types is often childish and is very influenced by emotions. They tend to hold opinions by irrational reasons as emotions.
    Politics is a field for emotional propaganda - so in those questions people are lesser reasonable. T types are lesser touched by stubborn irrationality in logical regions, but the more emotions a theme has - the lesser reasonable they become.

    Sometimes you may underesteemate the degree another human has a rational basis to think something. When it's not said - it does not mean there is nothing.

    Also. It's important to note, that to hold an idea by irrational reasons does not mean that idea is wrong. To be more critical is good when you know enough about that or when may stay in doubts without assured decisions. Emotions help to accept and to follow ideas, including correct ones.
    When you say to a child do not eat something alike a soup - it's important he'd did not. It's not obligate for him to have a science degrees in chemistry and medicine to understand why and there is no use for him to doubt. It's what dogmas are in positive side.
    People change any opinions easier if you'll say them good arguments, have authority state in that subject or you are personally important for them to influence through emotions. In other case they perceive you as the one who has just another opinion, without good basis for them to see. Sometimes you may have no good basis for other opinion indeed.

    As for types. To have same type (what is doubtful often, despite you may think so) does not mean to share same ideas. Some those ideas, being accepted irrationally, may even be not common for general type's approach or average for such people. Also sometimes ideas said are not what people would do on practice or felt badly doing it. Types is not all what influences on thoughts and behavior.
    Last edited by Sol; 08-23-2020 at 10:31 PM.

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