What do you think about this?
Male Circumcision is OK, Female is Wrong
Female Circumcision is OK, Male is Wrong
Both are OK
Both are Wrong
What do you think about this?
Genital mutilation is bad
Female circumcision is absolutely disgusting and wrong and used as another way to control women. It's a violation of women's rights. Circumcision is the wrong word--it's female genital mutilation.
Male circumcision is a bit out of my frame of reference.
The two however are not comparable. If male circumcision involved cutting off the entire tip of the penis or something as an age old practice to oppress men, then it would be more easy to compare. Male circumcision started out as a health thing I guess, though it doesn't seem to have any necessity. So stepping outside my frame of reference I don't really understand the point in doing it. It seems it continues as a cultural practice because it was always done that way. Honestly, I'm heavily leaning against it, I just can't seem to take the final step mainly because I'm not male.
Ugh, I was reading about it more and I don't know. I guess the health arguments are reasonable. Someone else can decide, one can't have a position on everything.
Last edited by inumbra; 08-12-2020 at 05:25 PM.
Female Circumcision is OK, Male is Wrong (jk haha funny)
Just cuz they're not the same that doesn't mean they both aren't bad to force upon a child, how about letting ppl make that decision themselves when they're old enough to choose. Jews and Muslims in Sweden are seething cuz we don't wanna make it part of our healthcare plan to offer taxpaid circumcisions for religious reasons anymore, so they have to pay the entire cost themselves if they wanna mutilate their child, but I think that's good! Personally I think it should be illegal to make that choice for someone else, even your child, but oh well.
I know that male circumcision is also a rite in some religions, but that doesn't make much sense to me.
How does member of the same religion introduce each other at meeting? By dropping their pants?
Useful at a nudist camp but probably not in a prayer room.
It's also no unmistakable sign for being a member of a religious confession... but the origins are body modification to indicate being a member of a clan or tribal, like lip plates or lip pegs.
Or a sadistic guy came up with it as a method of torture.
The practice of circumcision began at least a few thousand years ago.
Yeah, it's still mutilating someone's body, so I can be against it, and I'd agree it's better for someone to have the right to choose for themselves when they are old enough. Because not like foreskin can't be removed at any time. If the choice is back with the individual it's no longer a moral problem.
Looks like this thread may get really popular. I don't have the energy to click Like on every post from now on, so just assume that's my intent.
A newborn infant can't say no. I know a lot of guys who wish they hadn't been circumcised but they were never asked.
I was like 8 when some teacher decided we had to learn about female genital mutilation from a documentary. It was quite the horror show, watching blood run down between a little girl's legs, seeing little girls crying on a screen. A bloody razor blade, the only one that was used one the many girls one after the other. They were what, 5-6 y-o? It was horrid.
Generaly, it's a woman who does this, believing they are doing what is best for those kids. It's what was done to them after all, with the best of intentions of living up to some societal standard. It's horrifying how some women are willing to mutilate their daughters out of fear for them.
They do that because they believe the clitoris contains some evil spirit, because what else could female pleasure be beside evil? In some culture, they only cut off the clit, in some others the inner labia are also removed, some practice also include sewing of the remaining skin into some closed shape with only a small hole to allow blood flow and penetration. In this last sewing practice, they have to undo the stiching to allow for childbirth, and then they sew it back together in general.
Do I have to say I'm against all of this nonsense...
It probably also sets women up to be abused in marriage. They will probably be more likely to find sex traumatizing or not want to have sex, and be beaten for "not pleasing their husbands."
Circumcision can be botched as well. Not just aesthetically where it looks like there's bands of different colored skin on the dick (I don't care about this but some people get very self conscious about this) but the removal of too much skin leads to limited skin on the shaft. When too much skin is taken off, to the point where it becomes painful to have an erection or have sex, skin has to be borrowed from other places of the penis to fix this which can shorten the length of the shaft. That's the main problem, but other complications surface as well.
There are other risks as well, if a circumcision is really botched some people lose all or a part of their glans. It's a risky surgery and it never really made sense to me outside of "religion" and "tradition".