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    it's not about aggressor vs. victim, in general now it's a good time for extroverted women and introverted men and also a bit of a bad time for introverted women (who are socially forced into more "aggressive career" roles) and extroverted males (who are supposed to spend more time at home, etc. etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    it's not about aggressor vs. victim, in general now it's a good time for extroverted women and introverted men and also a bit of a bad time for introverted women (who are socially forced into more "aggressive career" roles) and extroverted males (who are supposed to spend more time at home, etc. etc.)
    Basic human rights to provide for ourselves (and not being coerced into hoping the nearest male relative will feed us when we're able-bodied to provide for ourselves) has not caused introverted women to be pushed into 'aggressive career' roles. If any man or woman is pressured into a career role, it's other forces at work than the right to provide for oneself.

    Extroverts often like doing extroverted things at their homes. I'm a nearly nomadic entj happiest out adventuring, but I don't want my introvert boyfriend/fiance/partner doing all the domestic drudgery. We extroverts managed our own shit when we were single, and I can find shit I like doing, like raking leaves and moving furniture and taking out trash, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    it's not about aggressor vs. victim, in general now it's a good time for extroverted women and introverted men and also a bit of a bad time for introverted women (who are socially forced into more "aggressive career" roles) and extroverted males (who are supposed to spend more time at home, etc. etc.)
    I agree with @nanashi on this , especially since there always were plenty of introverted men who are making lots of money. One doesn’t need to be an extroverted man or woman, socially or otherwise to make money and have a successful career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I agree with @nanashi on this , especially since there always were plenty of introverted men who are making lots of money. One doesn’t need to be an extroverted man or woman, socially or otherwise to make money and have a successful career.
    True. I met a fat bald manlet ILI-Te yesterday. He shits money, the cheapskate and drives an Audi A8 L 60 TFSI e quattro from 2020.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    True. I met a fat bald manlet ILI-Te yesterday. He shits money, the cheapskate and drives an Audi A8 L 60 TFSI e quattro from 2020.
    I just woke up snd thought you meant my ILI buddy, but then I remembered he has hair and not excess fat. Smh. He does drive beaut vehicles, tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nanashi View Post
    I just woke up snd thought you meant my ILI buddy, but then I remembered he has hair and not excess fat. Smh. He does drive beaut vehicles, tho.
    You don't live in Romania nanashi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shotgunfingers View Post
    True. I met a fat bald manlet ILI-Te yesterday. He shits money, the cheapskate and drives an Audi A8 L 60 TFSI e quattro from 2020.
    Quote Originally Posted by nanashi View Post
    I just woke up snd thought you meant my ILI buddy, but then I remembered he has hair and not excess fat. Smh. He does drive beaut vehicles, tho.
    Driving BMW's or Audi's is an ILI trait, probably stemming from Se-Dual-Seeking. I notice that they rarely go for Mercedes, though. They don't want to be seen as the one running the show, merely as the Mastermind in the middle of a dark spiderweb, controlling everything from behind the scenes. To an ILI, being the Main Man is SEE territory.

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    Mercedes is for status and comfort (old men). Audi and BMW are ”younger” and more geared for the thrill of driving fast.

    Of course, A8 and 7 series are luxobarges like the S-class. M and RS models are where the fun is.

    And yes, ILI love cool cars. I know one that drives Audi, one that drives Tesla and both of the two fellow Tesla owners that chatted me up at a Supercharger were ILI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Driving BMW's or Audi's is an ILI trait, probably stemming from Se-Dual-Seeking. I notice that they rarely go for Mercedes, though. They don't want to be seen as the one running the show, merely as the Mastermind in the middle of a dark spiderweb, controlling everything from behind the scenes. To an ILI, being the Main Man is SEE territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Driving BMW's or Audi's is an ILI trait, probably stemming from Se-Dual-Seeking. I notice that they rarely go for Mercedes, though. They don't want to be seen as the one running the show, merely as the Mastermind in the middle of a dark spiderweb, controlling everything from behind the scenes. To an ILI, being the Main Man is SEE territory.
    I think it is a ferari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duschia View Post
    Another point for ILI, lol. Look at my excessive laptop as well.
    Lol they certainly go other way than me. I even charge my phone with a self made bicycle dynamo charger [although it contains mosfet rectifiers and microcontrollers as well s super caps - so it is not exactly behind of its time]. I also use raspberry pi 4B as my desktop machine. My router is hacked originally cheap ass Chinese only machine which now has openwrt firmware. It is my own route.
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    Romance styles don't really seem to have a solid basis. In general, the tendency is to select for certain genetic make ups and these may even be culturally enforced. There have been several scientific studies done on what people find attractive and how the sexes differ in general cases. I would imagine that individual preferences far outweigh the supposed compatibility of sociotypes. We as humans can learn to adapt to people who are not perfectly compatible with us but genuine, authentic attraction can't be manufactured.

    As for the OP, I dislike aggressive men. They make me uncomfortable. I prefer men of any sociotype that can make their attraction clear and unambiguous. I dislike being pursued, it's a legitimate turn off. However, I also don't do the pursuing. If it's a good match, it happens naturally, without effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    I agree with @nanashi on this , especially since there always were plenty of introverted men who are making lots of money. One doesn’t need to be an extroverted man or woman, socially or otherwise to make money and have a successful career.
    But that's not what I wrote. I didn't write that introverted males don't make money. I wrote that extroverted males may be supposed to spend more time at home and introverted women may be forced into aggressive career roles. You can make loads of money in non-aggressive career roles and you can spend your time outside drinking with friends rather than doing business. Now it's a good time to be an extroverted woman compared to the past because nobody would ever say that you're not taking care of the house etc. when you're outside doing your own thing. This is a good thing. But it's not counterbalanced by a positive attitude towards the same thing in males.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    But that's not what I wrote. I didn't write that introverted males don't make money. I wrote that extroverted males may be supposed to spend more time at home and introverted women may be forced into aggressive career roles. You can make loads of money in non-aggressive career roles and you can spend your time outside drinking with friends rather than doing business. Now it's a good time to be an extroverted woman compared to the past because nobody would ever say that you're not taking care of the house etc. when you're outside doing your own thing. This is a good thing. But it's not counterbalanced by a positive attitude towards the same thing in males.
    Well you didn’t say that last part lol. I disagree though, I think it is. I don’t see how it’s not seen as positive for males too.

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