What would each type look like when depressed?

[CowboyBibimbap]

And what function would someone in emotional stress resort to? Dual seeking?

[ooo]

super ego ( + id)

[Hope]

I don't think depression would necessarily change your external attitude or how you look. Sometimes ppl is depressed and others don't even notice it.

Stress or anxiety, Role function.

[Sol]

Some types specifics can exist.

In despressive and tired states are more than common supressed weak and nonvalued functions. As people more rely on assured and liked regions, while other go to economy. Such is for the consciousness.
The most noticable mb role function reduction - as weakest nonvalued.

Mb pointed, that superego activity supresses a psyche, predisposes to depressive symptoms. Communicate with conflictors/superego IRL and then you feel yourself unusually tired.

I don't think depression would necessarily change your external attitude or how you look.

Emotional states are expressed in the nonverbal. Among general depressive symptoms are higher irritability, worse emotions, lesser energy impression, lesser selfassurance, higher anxiety, etc. - all that can be felt and noticed, including unconsciously.
Someones may better control what emotions they show and surfacely have, but they are doubtful to do this absolutely and for long. And someones better understand emotional states of others (and of themselves) to be lesser fooled.
TS types are worse than average in emotions understanding.

[End]

They hit the bottle. Booze is a factor all types and quadras can agree on if the right circumstances or questions are posed. How/why/which drink/etc. is a matter of potentially considerable debate. I'll need some time to compile my own table but hey, if anyone here has a list/table of what they think are favorite drinks according to types/quadras than let's hear it. After all, if you're going to go "dual seeking" at a bar the least we can do is give you a relevant data set.

Knowing what "type" or "quadra" tends to drink would help ya narrow it down in broad strokes. That's just about all we can hope for thankfully.

[SGF]

[The Reality Denialist]

Excessive focus in ignoring.

[Aster]

Id drink if I could, red wine. Lots of it. But I haven’t drank any alcohol for 2 years this October despite having serious depression problems. Instead I’ve been binge eating and counterbalancing by extreme dieting and exercising. My weight has been going up and down in the last year more extremely than it ever has.

[thegreenfaerie]

Id drink if I could, red wine. Lots of it. But I haven’t drank any alcohol for 2 years this October despite having serious depression problems. Instead I’ve been binge eating and counterbalancing by extreme dieting and exercising. My weight has been going up and down in the last year more extremely than it ever has.

October will mark a year for me. Needless to say, escaping by that route was my crutch for a long time. I also struggle with my diet and weight fluctuations in a very similar manner, eating too much/too unhealthily and then making myself go back down in weight by not eating much. Too lazy for exercise lol, though I’ve had my moments. Bicycle has always been best for me as it’s kind of fun. Need a new one.

[Beautiful sky]

I go into non existent mode when I’m depressed. I withdrew from everyone and everything. No one will do much as hear a beep out of me!

[thegreenfaerie]

Ah yeah. I guess I have a tendency to sleep more. Sleep more, eat more

[Chiquichiquaquiles]

My mind tells me I'm not eating enough when I'm eating too much, I'm eating too much when I'm not eating enough, I need to work out more even though I just did, I need to get my body checked for strange illnesses, I need to eschew everything and live simply.. which in turn just makes me bored and sad, so I go and try something new... which disappoints me. I overthink everything, analyze everything I'm doing to make sure it's working to my benefit. And then at the end of the day, accept failure to change much at all.

edit: and also recklessness and spontaneity and general anti-social qualities- like getting into verbal fights for no reason.

I could go on

I've moved beyond self sabotage and self defeating actions though

[sbbds]

When I was at the peak of my (diagnosed) depression and anxiety in high school, I took an online MBTI test and scored INFJ lol. I think that’s the only time I’ve ever gotten INFJ on a test in my life.

Excessive focus in ignoring.

This also happened to me too. I had disordered eating that I went to therapy for.

There’s my specific, real-life example data point for you with diagnosed depression.

[The Reality Denialist]

I have never had an urge to drink. I just go into this autistic self stimulation mode of dark thought with no will power to do stuff. I see Ni as some sort of black hole.

[sbbds]

I just go into this autistic self stimulation mode of dark thought with no will power to do stuff. I see Ni as some sort of black hole.

What was the source of the depression for you, COVID?

[FreelancePoliceman]

I have never had an urge to drink. I just go into this autistic self stimulation mode of dark thought with no will power to do stuff. I see Ni as some sort of black hole.

Can you explain it?

[Adam Strange]

I have never had an urge to drink. I just go into this autistic self stimulation mode of dark thought with no will power to do stuff. I see Ni as some sort of black hole.

Can you explain it?

In a world of Ni, all possibilities come to a conclusion. To an Ne-valuer, it is a world past hope, past cure, past help.*


*Got a little Shakespeare in there to elevate this place.

[FreelancePoliceman]

Got a little Shakespeare in there to elevate this place.

Was that because I removed the Shakespeare quote from my signature?

[The Reality Denialist]

Can you explain it?

Personally

[Rebelondeck]

With depression, Ips and Ejs seem to get more observant and defensive but it may not be as noticeable with some Ips who are already defensive by nature; Eps and Ijs seem to become more thoughtful and withdraw into themselves but with some Ijs, they just go deeper so you may not notice so much of a change. Stress is a completely different can of worms and the behaviour tends to appear dual-like in limited ways.

a.k.a. I/O

[nanashi]

I don't drink when depressed because... it doesn't help. Alcohol's a depressant. I sleep

[gone]

when depression hits everyone is IEI

[Hot Scalding Gayser]

lol this can be very subtle/nuanced with me, since I'm so introverted naturally but I guess it's kinda like, being a Daria without her Jane or something. I push people away even more and just bring the energy down even more.

I don't think people should always run away from sadness tho, u can surrender to it too quickly before it can mature u into being a better person or something. But yeah I think it's too dour if you do this too much and then also lose your zest for life or completely lose your sense of humor. Most of society seems to be content with making you a depressed/emotionless workaholic robot and a sadistically hateful and cynical person tho, so I think it's wise to fight back against that stuff.

[voider]

What Rebelondeck said, I withdraw and become thoughtful, but it's a bad and faulty introspection that turns into me just regurgitating everything I dislike about myself over and over until either I snap out of it or some external event does. It's like I get trapped in some existential goo and it's hard to move or do anything because of the horrible lethargy.

[Aster]

After reading this thread, I asked someone close to me and they said that it’s noticeable because I very visibly slow down. I walk slower, move slower, and even talk slower. And evidently look like I’m ‘about to cry’...lol

But I got to thinking...do I drink when I’m depressed...why have I drank in the past...honestly I think it’s to bring me down...I’m a stress drinker

[Zyan]

And what function would someone in emotional stress resort to? Dual seeking?

For me it's definitely Fi, usually my emotional stress is correlated with Fi so it makes sense I'd start searching to to improve it.

[MissDucki]

Ne and Ti for me.

When I am depressed, I procrastinate a lot more then usual. I can be more emotionally reactive and ruminate a lot. The world seems scary and It can be a struggle to leave the house. I feel like grabbing at different options that will make me feel better or possibilities. It's like a double edge sword, I am thinking of negative possibilities that could go wrong or I am grabbing at any possibility that could make me feel better or safe. I just get overly critical of myself and it's hard to leave this space.

I feel better when I am cleaning or going for a walk. It gives my brain something else to focus on and it gives me a routine I need. I feel accomplished, a little bit better, and useful. I also really need to talk to people and have connection in some way, I find that healing. Same thing works when someone shows me the bright side of things and I can get out of my dark hole. I need to see the good possibilities because I already struggle with this a bit when healthy and extremely so when unhealthy. I just need to see some colour and that it is going somewhere positive.

[eiemo]

I don't really have a clue about what my type is. Even though my username says @eiemo, I have no idea.

I become more introspective about my identity and I daydream a lot more. I stop making logical sense and I become more emotional and withdrawn. My energy levels either drastically increase (due to anxiety) or decrease (due to depression). I tend to ruminate.

[necrosebud]

I guess I personally show some blunted affect, a bit slowness in speech and thought, sad demeanor, and some emotional vulnerability and catastrophization (seeing the worse in the world or in potential outcomes), feelings of worthlessness sometimes or lower self esteem

depression has specific symptoms anyway that may overlap for anyone who is depressed despite type

but I guess...for EII they may *appear* at least more Fi subtype because of what I mentioned above. The vitality or animation may be reduced or even gone prob for both sub.

[PinKDiGiT18]

And what function would someone in emotional stress resort to? Dual seeking?

For me, my Id block goes pretty wild. To allay it, I try to appease my Hidden Agenda function. Activity in my suggestive is basically nonexistent when I get depressed - can't do a single thing productive. Likely need suggestive support the most at that point.

[eiemo]

When I am depressed, I just withdraw, cry, worry, and excessively daydream.

[ContractedCriminalboy]

I tend to put a lot of emphasis on Ni and Se when chronically enturbulated.

[aixelsyd]

When depressed, I pretty much shutdown and live in my head. That and I alternate towards aggression and general bitchiness coupled with nonchalance.

When I am not depressed, I am more grounded, in the moment, and working on improving skills or acquiring knowledge on whatever I am interested in at the time and don't really bother thinking too much or too deeply, enjoying my cats, music, playing music, or getting out of the house for some different impressions based on the location and its atmosphere.

[Adam Strange]

I don't know how I look when I'm depressed, but I know how I feel. I've been dealing with bouts of deep depression for the past ten or fifteen years.

I tend to not want to do anything, not even things that I used to like to do.
I can't motivate myself to work. Any work that does get done is done grudgingly and at the last moment and under extreme duress. The only way I can actually focus on anything is by drinking coffee. Like, ten cups per day.
I have no purpose in life and I don't care if I live or die.

I think that a big part of this depression is caused by the fact that I'm Sx-first and I don't have anyone in my life whom I care enough about to be willing to work for them. Not even myself. I mean, I have people I work for (that's what happens when you own a company - you end up working for them), but I don't have anyone that I really, really care for. My ex-wife is long gone (which is good) and so is my son and the rest of my family is either dead or is living many hours away.

The reason I'm writing about this is because something in my life has changed recently. I'm platonically dating an ESI-Fi a few times a month and while she doesn't want a relationship, there's a lot of mutual understanding, and for the past few days I've been spending eight hours a day with an ESI-Se interior decorator who is rearranging my house. This arrangement is kind of ideal from the standpoint of Socionics Duality theory. If you are LIE-Te, you need to have an ESI-Fi partner for life travels, and have an ESI-Se with whom you can work. Both of these women, I realize, are relieving me of burdens that have been distracting me from my purpose in life.

You know how, when you're doing random drugs and you find one that just seems to be terrific and is the answer to all your needs? Well, that's how I feel about my present situation. I have a renewed confidence and interest in life and I'm getting things done effortlessly. I even stopped drinking coffee and I don't miss it. It will be interesting to see if this lasts, because there are a couple clear problems. One woman doesn't want a relationship, and the other is being paid a pretty high rate which is probably not sustainable. But this situation definitely points me in the right direction. I'm certainly not depressed right now. Instead, I feel good about my life and my future.

I don't want to give this up.

[Alomoes]

I tend to never have depression per se. But periods where I sleep, and periods where I'm active.

[linnoiemclaren]

Believe me, coping with depression is a solvable task. Trusting communication with friends, close acquaintances and family members can save a person who is depressed. Despite the discomfort and negative feelings that contact with people can cause at first, it is the environment that helps a person to deal with the manifestations of a depressive state. It is not necessary to discuss the problem – such conversations will not ease your condition, but only aggravate the situation. Talk about abstract topics – discuss hobbies, discuss movies and books you've watched, talk about things that interest you. If it's really hard for you, find help from https://fherehab.com/depression/treatment .

[Stray Cat]

My guess is that a person will cycle through each of their valued functions to make themselves feel better. With depression, a person is usually not happy and, perhaps, would like to be happy. What better way to achieve psychological happiness than to cycle through your valued functions.

For example, an LSI might use Ti to understand. If still not happy, they engage Se. If Se doesn't make 'em happy, then it is Ni. If Ni isn't cool, then it's Fe. Once Fe doesn't do the trick they cycle to Ti.

People use unvalued functions but I don't believe they'd use them if they are truly in a depressed mental state.

[Lycantrope]

My guess is that a person will cycle through each of their valued functions to make themselves feel better. With depression, a person is usually not happy and, perhaps, would like to be happy. What better way to achieve psychological happiness than to cycle through your valued functions.

For example, an LSI might use Ti to understand. If still not happy, they engage Se. If Se doesn't make 'em happy, then it is Ni. If Ni isn't cool, then it's Fe. Once Fe doesn't do the trick they cycle to Ti.

People use unvalued functions but I don't believe they'd use them if they are truly in a depressed mental state.

interesting question, depressed people tendo to become mechanic, they start doing things slowly without thinking too much and without caring too much, no more engaging in super-ego to please others but also no access to desired super-id elements. But depression may have manic states, so they suddenly start thinking a lot, mind racing but very inneficiently. But here is what I have seem some types act like when depressed

IEE- shut down, if anyone tries to talk to them, they answer in a nihilistic way (like an ILI would maybe)

ILE - look at you as if they got run over by a truck, don't talk much but you can tell they are wrecked

LSI - they hide in some corner and start singing

IEI - they change their looks, each day another new look

ILI - lie in bed smoke some **** and keep waiting death takes them away

EIE - they act like everything is fine, so fine that they are gonna get married tomorrow and you can't tell if something is wrong... and then they kill themselves or overdose

ESI - they sl*t their w**** and then they are fine

LIE - they tell jokes, they tell that shit happens in our lives but we gotta move on and if one day they disappear, it's ok, it's part of life... and them they kill themselves

SLE - they start hoarding stuff to do, overwork until some disease catches them or they have an injury that takes them inevitably to the hospital and arriving at the hospital they look for even more stuff to do and if you don't give any feed back they get very angry and start cussing and throwing shit. When you talk to them they answer "uh huh" kinda like saying "yeah, yeah, pisso off"

LII - they try to logically convince you why it's a good idea to kill themselves and them they go weep because someone is forcing them to socialize to cure the depression

SEE - they actually become... nice and warming people lmao, like a nurturing old lady but slightly sad.



The other types I don't remember seeing depressed so someone else might have an idea.

[Lord Pixel]

I listen to really emo dark music, trying to hear something that puts my feelings into words, it really helps me indulge the feeling, possibly too much. I can be self sabotaging, too scared to be truly self destructive, but I flirt with the idea of fucking up my life sometimes. I don't want responsibilties, and use my depression as an excuse to be lazy and not do shit, like "you're depressed, take the day off." I almost want someone to wake me up out of it, it's like a weird fantasy that someone comes and rescues me from my depression, so I wear it a little bit to see if someone catches on, but it does the opposite and makes people uncomfortable and go the other way. I totally get it, even I'm uncomfortable under someone else's dark cloud. I definitely become tons more selfish with my attention, I don't laugh at friends jokes anymore, don't talk, I have selective hearing and only respond to what I feel like responding to, I ignore everything else, almost once again in hopes that someone says sees me being rude and says "HEY! YOU CAN'T KEEP BEING LIKE THIS", I even push people away to see if they comeback, to see if someone cares enough about me to care, to feel missed. I secretly want someone to recognize what is wrong with me, as screwed up as that sounds. Oh, and it's for sure Fi, but usually depressed because of Ni Te reasons, "My life is going nowhere, I'm gonna end up doing jack shit with my life in the end like I've always done." When it comes to relationships I haven't been brave enough to let myself experience that kinda depression yet, I've been lieing to myself, like everything is fine I'll find someone later in life, or like I'm ok with being alone I'm avoiding all the "toxic" people, been kidding myself for awhile now.

[Socionics Is Not A Cult]

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