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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post
    My psychiatrist told me I have sociopathic tendencies. You will be my first victim muahhaaha *maniacal laughter*

    To try and keep with the spirit of this thread, I first also thought you weren't LIE but then I saw you mentioned it somewhere that you are female. And then it instantly made sense yeah. Your energy is the same certain strong & erratic energy emotionally as with some LIE females I've known. I find that energy comfy though, interestingly enough. (I type LSI-Se)


    PS: this energy thingy some associate with Intuitive-ness. This is hard to explain though sorry

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    Normally I would agree with Sol being ridiculous with his comment, but in video chat I didn't see LIE seemed more in line with ESE or SEE

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    I'm definitely LIE. I was just trying to entice some good energy

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post
    I'm definitely LIE. I was just trying to entice some good energy
    Yeah, this fits LIE quite well actually. LIEs will frequently try to do this because of their ESE superego, but as it's low D it can sometimes backfire as it seems to have done here for a few people who didn't pick up you were exaggerating.

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    Keep in mind I'm here for my best friend of like 12+ years. So I'm definitely trying here for his sake and clearly failing

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    Clearly everyone struggles with sarcasm here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    Normally I would agree with Sol being ridiculous with his comment, but in video chat I didn't see LIE seemed more in line with ESE or SEE
    It's not uncommon for people to misinterpret my excellent extroverted social skills as something other than what they are, or for people to feel a bit intimated by that. did you know? Not every NT has to be boring and calculative. People can have a sense of humor. That might come as a surprise to you since you had a flat affect. A flat affect is a common symptom of various mental illnesses. You had not a single movement in your facial expressions. This makes me think you are biased towards extroverts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post
    It's not uncommon for people to misinterpret my excellent extroverted social skills as something other than what they are, or for people to feel a bit intimated by that. did you know? Not every NT has to be boring and calculative. People can have a sense of humor. That might come as a surprise to you since you had a flat affect. A flat affect is a common symptom of various mental illnesses. You had not a single movement in your facial expressions. This makes me think you are biased towards extroverts.
    Lol it was just my impression. I think most who know me here know I don't have a flat affect, am very expressive in conversation and that I am not biased toward extroverts. Nice armchair psychology though. You seem like you try very hard to seem more knowledgeable than you actually are. I'm literally physically sick at the moment and was focused on something else as well. I don't think I'm the one with a very significant mental illness. I'm genuinely curious what led you to LIE. It was an opinion that you do not seem LIE, you insinuated quite a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    Lol it was just my impression. I think most who know me here know I don't have a flat affect, am very expressive in conversation and that I am not biased toward extroverts. Nice armchair psychology though. You seem like you try very hard to seem more knowledgeable than you actually are. I'm literally physically sick at the moment and was focused on something else as well. I don't think I'm the one with a very significant mental illness. I'm genuinely curious what led you to LIE. It was an opinion that you do not seem LIE, you insinuated quite a bit.
    Sorry that you are physically sick. I guess first impressions aren't always a good thing to make assumptions on ? Haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    Lol it was just my impression. I think most who know me here know I don't have a flat affect, am very expressive in conversation and that I am not biased toward extroverts. Nice armchair psychology though. You seem like you try very hard to seem more knowledgeable than you actually are. I'm literally physically sick at the moment and was focused on something else as well. I don't think I'm the one with a very significant mental illness. I'm genuinely curious what led you to LIE. It was an opinion that you do not seem LIE, you insinuated quite a bit.
    I test as LIE. I was a subtype, I forget which, but still LIE. And people who know me also agree I'm LIE. It's not like I sat there and picked my favorite type lol

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    *Another armchair psychologist joins the thread*

    Dunno, wasn't there in whatever chat this was, but if you are doing things for "emotional efficiency" to keep the vibe going then that would be a sign of Fe usage, no? Plus the way you say things such as...
    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post
    It's not uncommon for people to misinterpret my excellent extroverted social skills as something other than what they are, or for people to feel a bit intimated by that. did you know? Not every NT has to be boring and calculative. People can have a sense of humor.
    ...makes me believe that you are trying to twist things to control a social image, or at the very least protect one. Both of which are very Fe oriented. Many of your posts come off like you have this goal of projecting and protecting a particular image in my opinion.

    But I will say that the way you are lashing out in multiple posts does indicate a not very effective usage of Se. Not gonna lie, the mental illness jab was pretty random and not really on topic from what I could tell, and I agree with thegreenfaerie that you appear to try to seem more knowledgeable than you actually are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    *Another armchair psychologist joins the thread*

    Dunno, wasn't there in whatever chat this was, but if you are doing things for "emotional efficiency" to keep the vibe going then that would be a sign of Fe usage, no? Plus the way you say things such as...

    ...makes me believe that you are trying to twist things to control a social image, or at the very least protect one. Both of which are very Fe oriented. Many of your posts come off like you have this goal of projecting and protecting a particular image in my opinion.

    But I will say that the way you are lashing out in multiple posts does indicate a not very effective usage of Se. Not gonna lie, the mental illness jab was pretty random and not really on topic from what I could tell, and I agree with thegreenfaerie that you appear to try to seem more knowledgeable than you actually are.

    Just two cents from a random Socionika n00b.
    Mental illness jab wasn't random. It was pretty obvious what i was trying to say, and yes, i was using armchair psychology, but so is everyone here. do you understand the word facetious?

    Not to mention you weren't there. I really wasn't THAT jovial. My point was greenfaerie is so miserable anything would be jovial compared to her demeanor. She says she was sick, sort of an excuse. I know people with chronic illnesses who still muster up more personality than she did. I find people like that tend to come down harshly on anyone who is happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post
    Mental illness jab wasn't random. It was pretty obvious what i was trying to say, and yes, i was using armchair psychology, but so is everyone here. do you understand the word facetious?

    Not to mention you weren't there. I really wasn't THAT jovial. My point was greenfaerie is so miserable anything would be jovial compared to her demeanor. She says she was sick, sort of an excuse. I know people with chronic illnesses who still muster up more personality than she did. I find people like that tend to come down harshly on anyone who is happy
    I didn’t say anything about you being jovial lol. I saw Se and Fe, but I never indicated anything regarding being jovial. That was my initial impression which you seem quite butthurt about for some bizarre reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post

    How many times you gonna frantically quote me... lol.

    True, everyone here is an armchair psychologist. That's the whole point of typology. Which is why I playfully called myself one at the beginning of my first post. What you did though was some next level Psychology Today shit. I did also mention I that I'm mainly going off of forum impressions, so I don't understand why you're practically repeating me verbatim. A lot of your posts do come off as flippant, but also very defensive. This all did snowball because you made a random jab at Faerie after she analyzed your behavior and formulated a differing opinion on your type.

    Anyways, it's clear to me that this "I'm a cool and sparkly and fun loving person with a sense of humor and Faerie is boring me " is the difference between Fe and Fi. Even if you are being "facetious", since I do believe that is an aspect of Fe. As for Miss Faerie, I do think she's a lovely person and her behavior on this thread and the way she handles the matter marks all the difference. After all, you're the one making petty jabs over an innocent typing post, insulting her personality and mental health for said post, and overall acting a fool (and I would know since all I do on here is act a fool). Faerie is minding her business and doing what is commonplace here, which is analyzing behavior and typing others.
    Basically what happened was I made a joke, playing off of the American psycho thing, and everyone got their panties in a bunch.

    My laptop recently broke and I'm having difficulty maneuvering the website. I tried to condense my replies. I'm not frantically doing anything.

    As for the "jabs," I thought they were funny * shrugs *

    I struggle with feelings in general, this includes Fe. As time goes on you will likely see that. I definitely don't value Fe. It's very superficial.

    My impression of greenfaerie also plays off of her immediate response to me in the zoom chat, which was condescending. You get what you give. Remember that. Before my camera even went on she stated in an annoyed tone, "oh you must be an extravert." Clearly she was bothered by my voice. Hahaha.

    One more thing, it wasn't entirely an innocent thing she did. She didn't seem to like me from the zoom chat, came on here, and found this post, simply to challenge me.

    As for people typing incorrectly, it happens a lot. I think the issue is everyone here wants to project, but no one wants to listen. I've gotten a variety of types across the board, but never have I gotten ESFP. generally people guess NT, or at minimum T. I've gotten ISTJ before from two people into socionics, who know me in person. I've also gotten ENTP. AND of course, ENTJ. I don't need your opinions; if I wanted them I would have gone into the "what's your type?" Thread/section. I know I am an ENTJ. I do however appreciate the insight and I am taking everything into account.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post

    How many times you gonna frantically quote me... lol.

    True, everyone here is an armchair psychologist. That's the whole point of typology. Which is why I playfully called myself one at the beginning of my first post. What you did though was some next level Psychology Today shit. I did also mention I that I'm mainly going off of forum impressions, so I don't understand why you're practically repeating me verbatim. A lot of your posts do come off as flippant, but also very defensive. This all did snowball because you made a random jab at Faerie after she analyzed your behavior and formulated a differing opinion on your type.

    Anyways, it's clear to me that this "I'm a cool and sparkly and fun loving person with a sense of humor and Faerie is boring me " is the difference between Fe and Fi. Even if you are being "facetious", since I do believe that is an aspect of Fe. As for Miss Faerie, I do think she's a lovely person and her behavior on this thread and the way she handles the matter marks all the difference. After all, you're the one making petty jabs over an innocent typing post, insulting her personality and mental health for said post, and overall acting a fool (and I would know since all I do on here is act a fool). Faerie is minding her business and doing what is commonplace here, which is analyzing behavior and typing others.
    Also fyi I'm obviously NOT a sparkling person. Clearly this is already off to a negative start. I'm quite the opposite. That whole "excellent extroverted social skills" was an exaggeration to prove a point. I was trying to be snarky. I never said she was boring me. I said she was a boring person.

    Now the next thing I was trying to convey was just like I might be wrong about her, she must consider that she could be wrong about me.

    If I'm faking intelligence (as you and her claimed I was doing) why do I have to spell this out for you?

    P.s. I edited a few typos. Having difficulty with the mobile version of this website

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    I didn’t say you must be an extrovert lol. That was someone else. I wasn’t talking at all. I didn’t find the post simply to challenge you, it was posted in new posts. I don’t speak to people in a mean way like that especially when first meeting them. You’re making a complete ass of yourself and you’ve already revealed in this post that you have a significant mental illness. I don’t have a personality disorder or a significant mental illness, but it seems pretty clear to me that you do. Normally I wouldn’t use that against someone, but you seem to be making such light of it and using it to attack other people.

    I agree on Fe valuing the more I think about it and as this post has gone on though. Maybe you should consider EIE. Not all feelers are sensitive people. Some people use their Fe for completely selfish reasons, particularly ones with strong mental illness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NightHawk View Post
    Also fyi I'm obviously NOT a sparkling person. Clearly this is already off to a negative start. I'm quite the opposite. That whole "excellent extroverted social skills" was an exaggeration to prove a point. I was trying to be snarky. I never said she was boring me. I said she was a boring person.
    Everything about this is Fe. I had another post written out from my phone, but seems it didn’t post. I will keep this one shorter. It seems like you’re aware of being manipulative and quite proud of it. It also seems like you are lying. You seemed honest about having a psychiatrist who told you that and now you are saying that was false. I call bullshit. One or the other is an outright lie as opposed to just a joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post


    You sound like someone bitching to a manager. Or an angry little kid, I can't tell since they're essentially the same thing.

    If your tolerance for the bull excrement is low enough to get triggered by this small, casual, low energy type of talk, where someone says "wow, kinda weird you would compare yourself to a fictional serial killer" and leads to people analyzing it... and that makes you shit your diaper and start smearing the walls with it. Maybe grow thicker skin or get a bigger diaper.

    As for the mistypings. Yeah, these are first impressions. I'm not pushing types on anyone and it isn't my intention to do so. I don't know if this is anyone's intention. This is just what I see based off forum behavior, intertype relations, reactions, and possible motivations so far.

    How can you know that she's trying to challenge you for sure? You just met her. This is an internet forum that focuses on a weird psychological theory, she is not attacking your honor or challenging you to a fight to the death. This isn't that serious.

    Part of being on a typology forum is being typed. Mostly due to other people's curiosity and want to dig into things deeper and find "the truth" or "alternate possibilities". It really has nothing to do with you personally when you get to the bottom of it.

    I'm not trying to get in between anything that might have happened between you and Faerie on whatever platform. I don't know anything about that in the first place. I only spoke on the obvious differences of behavior in this thread. Plus, you do seem to be jumping to unfair conclusions on people's character everywhere.

    Also, trying to twist words again. I was talking about you trying to seem more knowledgeable in subjects which you aren't. It's not applicable to your general intelligence and isn't applicable outside anywhere else.
    I'm not angry I've been pretty much making jokes the entire time. Im not triggered. That's such an easy word to throw around. Hey if no one's laughing, is it still funny? I'd like to think that someone out there got the humor. I think one person picked up on it.


    I'm not trying to "seem" more knowledgeable. Knowing who I am isn't trying to be knowledgeable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taffy View Post
    You sound like someone bitching to a manager. Or an angry little kid, I can't tell since they're essentially the same thing.
    Wrong read of the tone there. That tone was not angry, it was trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and explain her pov. It's not nice that you are trying to be personal in return. That just escalates bad drama further. OP may have royally fucked up originally - that is what it seems like to me yeah, the mental illness comment wasn't cool - but what's the point in escalating it further when it is not even your business in the first place? Who asked you to join in?


    If your tolerance for the bull excrement is low enough to get triggered by this small, casual, low energy type of talk, where someone says "wow, kinda weird you would compare yourself to a fictional serial killer" and leads to people analyzing it... and that makes you shit your diaper and start smearing the walls with it. Maybe grow thicker skin or get a bigger diaper.
    Seems like projection from yourself.


    How can you know that she's trying to challenge you for sure? You just met her. This is an internet forum that focuses on a weird psychological theory, she is not attacking your honor or challenging you to a fight to the death. This isn't that serious.
    This is again hardly your business, as you were an outsider to the original issue, she is not required to explain herself to you yet she tried to do it and then you try to escalate the drama in turn. Nice (not).

    Anyhow if you get into it while not your business, don't be surprised if others will also get at you in turn.


    I'm not trying to get in between anything that might have happened between you and Faerie on whatever platform. I don't know anything about that in the first place. I only spoke on the obvious differences of behavior in this thread. Plus, you do seem to be jumping to unfair conclusions on people's character everywhere.
    No anymore unfair jumps to conclusions than in your own post here.


    I didn't say that you were angry or triggered. But the emotional vibe is there with all these nonsensical posts.
    Sorry but that's just complete bullshitting there. If you say there is this emotional vibe that is the same as saying that. Or otherwise the statement would be nonsensical, would have no point whatsoever.


    All in all. I strongly dislike it when everyone just goes and jumps at one person and it's just to keep fanning the negative atmosphere even if the person maybe did fuck up somewhere originally. And especially when the additional outsiders jumping in are being deaf to constructive attempts to resolve the issue arising between the joining outsiders and the original person (who either fucked up or didn't even do that, in some cases). So that is why I wrote this post. Even tho' I don't even know you otherwise. ....

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