I can't see the Se. Is it just me or do you guys not see the Se in Northstar either?
If OP has creative Se... it doesen't come across in the video at all.
I can't see the Se. Is it just me or do you guys not see the Se in Northstar either?
If OP has creative Se... it doesen't come across in the video at all.
What's Se to you, how do you think it would manifest in the context of these videos? I could of course have talked about what I actually do daily instead of the technical background. Such as making decisions and choices, tasking people with things to do and making sure they get done to move the project forward. The goal of the videos was however the Ti/Fe expressiveness thing and not the other functions.Originally Posted by shotgunfingers
In as far as that goal is concerned imo it was sucessful. Fi role and Fe suggestive seems to fit considering you don't know any of us and consequently are more restrained than with peole you actually know and are comfortable with.
From the videos however I can't get a sense of your Se. I have a hard time imagining you taking on an organizational role, putting people to work and making sure they do their job for example, being forceful and applying pressure on people if need be. (this is something I don't like doing for example)
Okay, the problem lies with your imagination then, since that's what I actually do daily and get paid for. I don't posture needlessly like a kid that has something to prove, that is ridiculous and you're probably looking for a caricature. I'm an adult (38) that knows how to be civil and friendly, especially as that is our culture. I just increase the forcefulness gradually as necessary.
I enjoy and have naturally taken informal or formal leadership roles of small groups, from military service to every real job I've had. Being CEO doesn't interest me that much, but I like having a small team of competent people who I direct. I believe in the "speak softly but carry a big stick" ideology, preferring a diplomatic approach first but following up with force if it doesn't work. This surprises people sometimes since I'm deceptively nice at first but that is only on the surface.
Alright, now we are getting somewhere. Look, I get payed to do plenty of things I don't enjoy doing. For me what you do for a living does not necesserily mean its in line with your personality. If it were for me I would probably never allow anyone to determine how and what I have to do regarding anything period. I hate giving orders and respond with hostility to pressure, orders or any need to obey rules i deem as irrelevant.
In terms of temperamnt from the video alone EP and EJ are out of the question. IJ and IP likely. Feeling elements aren't very good, which means Super-ego/id range at best. That narrows it down to logical introvert. From the video alone its clear you aren't intuitive, intuitives display associative thinking, you don't. We'll throw ILI and LII out the window now.
Down to SLI vs LSI. Considering what you wrote joust now, but more specifically how you responded to my posts I think LSI is clear. SLI wouldn't enjoy being in charge due to Se demonstrative. The fact that you enjoy your work and can actually be assertive (it comes through in how you responded) is proof enough for me.
He’s sitting and talking. Do you think Se leads are incapable of doing that? Like do they have to be punching people and flexing every second to be Se egos or something?
Do you think applying pressure on people means punching and yelling at them until they get into single file lineups? Lol
Do Si egos need to be masturbating and twiddling their nipples to ASMR videos every second?
Also, I constructive’d your prior post accidentally.
Se egos are pushy annoying competitive people, such as little bears who are into BDSM.
Lol. I am not that pushy, I’d say. I like being annoying sometimes but I wouldn’t think I’m perceived that way usually. And I don’t like either competition or BDSM.
It was a joke lol. Anyway, my image of SLE specifically (because Se types are different): Tyler1 . I can't think of a better example than that guy. Sterotypical SLE: Tyler1. Sure some of it is for the show, but the one thing he can't fake is his competitive nature and desire to win, to be on top, along with how he shits on people he considers inferior (Fi PolR), how he just takes over any group of people. Demanding, direct, impulsive and acts despite low information. he might be an extreme example, but I have known a handful of people in my own life who fit the same mold. They are rather common.
Last edited by SGF; 05-29-2020 at 02:19 PM. Reason: typos
Very LSI stereotype lol:
"speak softly but carry a big stick",
following up with force when needed,
and so on.
At first I am also deceptively nice and play the nice sensitive girl image well apparently.
Yes, I see the Se in OP. In the video too. Where I said at first sight I thought SLE it was because the Se was emphasised (in the way he looked). But ofc the overall video was then more LSI than SLE.
Yep again, I can easily see the glimpses of forcefulness in the video.
One more note, so yeah the first part here was a good summary for why OP is LSI (and an introtim) over SLE. I find SLEs aren't that restrained even at first. Even the Ti subtype isn't like that. Sure they could come off cold and aloof but just somehow not truly restrained like that.
Otherwise, your view of Se egos, well yeah, I understand that it's actually what they look like to non Se egos or whatever lol - so yes some of it will be stereotyping, but it does have truth to it lol. ...
(I type as LSI-Se like OP so that's where I'm coming from)
So I would say the way you described SLEs (Tyler1 or whoever, I don't know them btw), it did seem somewhat black and white yes. I don't think Se egos have to be shitting on people they see as inferior, or take over ANY group of people literally. It's true Se egos are direct and if the Se has a strong enough influence then impulsive and demanding too.
Your Se base quote, a lot of it does fit strengthened Se creative too imo. Right from the first sentence. It's the pure extraverted stuff like "as long as he plays the most visible role" what won't fit Se creatives.
Oh, and your autonomy thing does actually sound devalued Se for your xLI thing but if you are open to influence from SEE (their influence is different than SLE's, it's a load more emotional), then maybe ILI after all
Delta in terms of being "boring" or "low key" emotionally? Or not aggressive in-the-face enough? Or? ....
Imo SLE: https://youtu.be/bot0QOSwOGY <== the guy is not just an impulsive brute, he is very smart , otherwise he wouldn't get far, but he does.
I REALLY likes ESIs, so I probably would react well to SEE leadership style, yeah.
Last edited by SGF; 05-30-2020 at 11:55 AM.
That guy comes off SEE to me actually. He's not "aloof" enough and more personal than SLE, to me
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