SLI or IEE.. help mee

[thegreenfaerie]

Hmm, yeah, it could be. I'm not the idealistic rose colored glasses feely kind of NF tho. I guess I'm just in no way soft hearted and my outlook tends to be cynical / jaded rather than idealistic.

I think NF's can be like this

[SGF]

I think NF's can be like this

So what kind of NF?

[Sol]

https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...=1#post1096450

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So what kind of NF?

Any, rose colored glasses stereotype is MBTI nonsense or more Enneagram-related

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Any, rose colored glasses stereotype is MBTI nonsense or more Enneagram-related

Yeah, sounds like the typical MBTI ENFP and enneagram 7 descriptor. Like, I have seen the exact phrase in descriptions for them.

[Vex]

It'd be better if we stopped associating to cooking so much. It's going to confuse people. There could be a relation, I guess, but other ways I believe Si manifests with me:


-I'll create an atmosphere with lights and music for guests or alike. An ambiance. Even when I'm not expecting anyone, in my mind I'm selecting types of music for occasions. Presentation and mood.
- I'll take a trip somewhere and mark all the cool places in my mind so that I can revist them with other people and show this special, one-of-a-kind spot I discovered to them.
- Changing into comfy clothes when I get home is akin to mind transition.
- I like to introduce people to 'worthy' items of consideration: music, books, films, places.
- A certain light plus a special breeze with the right angle can completely change the emotional charge of scenery (Si+Fe)
- Daydreams can be a fabricated scene that can be modified, as if I'm constructing a scene in a film or a stanza in a poem. The daydream is that I'm outside of it. Again, mood and presentation.


Not liking to cook or being a bad cook does not mean you're not a Si ego.

Thank you for this. My ESE mother is like this, she doesn't think she enjoys cooking but she goes out of her way to serve others due to her caregiver approach/lifestyle.

Any, rose colored glasses stereotype is MBTI nonsense or more Enneagram-related

True, at least in the context of them being on all the time. The "uwu the world is so beautiful and full of flowers and peace and loveliness rawr XD" mode that's supposedly on all the time is so MBTI NF haha.

As for @shotgunfingers typing, shotgun does seem to be Fe polr and an Ne user. I'm not saying I'm the most well spoken bitch on this forum but the way we couldn't read each other in our interaction last night I think would be an example of differing quadras interacting, the difference between Fe and Fi mainly. He literally explained to me how emoticons worked as a friendly re-affirmation, even though most all the emoticons on this forum have a very clear meaning that don't require a cultural context specific to this forum, so it was one of the most stereotypical Fe polr things I've ever seen. Plus the way he asserts textbook knowledge seems Te.

[SGF]

As for @shotgunfingers typing, shotgun does seem to be Fe polr and an Ne user. I'm not saying I'm the most well spoken bitch on this forum but the way we couldn't read each other in our interaction last night I think would be an example of differing quadras interacting, the difference between Fe and Fi mainly. He literally explained to me how emoticons worked as a friendly re-affirmation, even though most all the emoticons on this forum have a very clear meaning that don't require a cultural context specific to this forum, so it was one of the most stereotypical Fe polr things I've ever seen. Plus the way he asserts textbook knowledge seems Te.

Damn it! . See I wish I was autistic, at least it would be a good excuse. On second thought maybe not.. don't want to become a burden on people.

[Vex]

Damn it! . See I wish I was autistic, at least it would be a good excuse. On second thought maybe not.. don't want to become a burden on people.

You ok bro? I don't have a problem with anything you do or say, and so far nobody else seems to. The forum encounter I mentioned was just a difference in thought process and miscommunication on both our parts and that's OK. That's human for everybody and it's part of this forum experience, and it's a part of the typing process from what I understand. Your fixation on autism though is pretty autistic lol.

Although it's worth noting that a lot of autistic people are well functioning members of society.

[SGF]

You ok bro? I don't have a problem with anything you do or say, and so far nobody else seems to. The forum encounter I mentioned was just a difference in thought process and miscommunication on both our parts and that's OK. That's human for everybody and it's part of this forum experience, and it's a part of the typing process from what I understand. Your fixation on autism though is pretty autistic lol.

Although it's worth noting that a lot of autistic people are well functioning members of society.

I thought of something that may be relevant.

I almost always use people as a soundboard. That is how I clarify ideas most often, bouncing thoughts off others to see what they think, how they think about it so I can add other perspectives I may fail to think of. The interaction helps me think... hmm. Sounds kinda Ne-ish.

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I think NF's can be like this

Ya I agree. A lot of 4s are NFs and they can be very jaded and even prickly (especially/mainly So last 4s, I think) and their intuition and feeling is more oriented towards what’s missing and how it sucks rather than being a bubbly humanitarian optimist like say, a stereotypical IEE 7 or EIE 2 would be... IEI seems most prone to this mindset/behavior. They are one type away from the ultimate cynics that are ILIs after all. EIE can just as easily come in a harsh and jaded form rather than a loving one too ex. H I T L E R (it censors his name on here??) (EIE) could have been called an idealist (idealism is “unrealistically aiming for perfection” according to google and he definitely had an overblown aim towards his -screwed up- version of perfection) simply because he had a strong vision but in my eyes he was largely just very jaded/negative/cynical/full of unwarranted animosity and he was compassionate to his insane vision rather than towards people and the world at large (NF is probably the most stereotypically compassionate bunch). Obviously very different from classically compassionate and idealistic Oprah (also EIE— but she has tackled a lot of pessimistic topics on her show and she’s totally not the manic pixie dream girl type of NF). Beta NFs are also Se valuing/seeking and Fe valuing so they can be rough around the edges or have a “meaner” (hard to find the right word here) heart in a (subconscious) attempt to be like their tough duals and/or be that way because of societal pressure — that’s where the Fe valuing part comes in place in case you were wondering.

Delta NFs are Te valuing so they can be cutthroat too... Personally, I have known IEEs to be very cold at times even if they are “normally” rose colored glasses and upbeat. IEE is also a negativist type so even though they can put on a happy face they are always noticing the flaws in things first. The bigger problem here is that people seem to have the wrong idea that NFs are ethereal, mythical beings rather than real people who have normal feelings and reactions and can be pessimistic or grumpy or assertive or whatever else we think is “not” NF. STs would stereotypically be the most cold or aggressive types but I’ve known really warm and compassionate ones — actually they are often this way; molding themselves to be more “NF” like just as NF can do vice versa as I said.