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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    ....you've sold your vision but don't have the wherewithal, tools or practical skills to make it happen.......

    a.k.a. I/O
    You must be thinking of LIE-Ni’s.

    In any case, that’s what all the resources of the world are for. Making the vision happen. For money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You must be thinking of LIE-Ni’s.....
    Most, with whom I've worked, were superb at connecting the dots but didn't really bring any dots of their own. They often didn't know specifically what was needed so their guidance could be rather ambiguous but they certainly recognized a good thing when it was produced and used it to its full potential. However, I do recall one actually saying to an employee in a threatening tone: "If you can't tell me what I need, I'll get someone else."

    a.k.a. I/O
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    I may say about related to leading Te.

    You are sure in your type when what you know about yourself fits good to the theory of this type, fits better than to other types and you know enough to be sure. What is Te objectivity.

    You prefer the reason and truth above emotions, in general. As you think it's more for interests of others and yours.
    Among consequences of objectivity valuing is that you have low conformism, have skepsis to bosses and athorities opinions.
    Where you have basis to trust to your opinion - you tend to say it openly to anyone, where this relates to your duties and to people about who you care.

    You are attracted by sympathy emotions from others. In friends and pairs value the most emotional traits, the abbility to be nice and delicate, to be behave decently. Emotionally warm and pleasant people inspire the best emotional state in you - you may get an addiction from such people. Meanwhile you are annoyed by loud emotional expressions and raptures - you more perceive them as false theatric play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You must be thinking of LIE-Ni’s.

    In any case, that’s what all the resources of the world are for. Making the vision happen. For money.
    That's why you have a go to guy (or girl) for every situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You must be thinking of LIE-Ni’s.

    In any case, that’s what all the resources of the world are for. Making the vision happen. For money.
    I think it's a bit more nuanced than that, at least for me.

    I do think you are right that making the vision happen in exchange for money is what LIEs do, which is why we work well in a (more or less) free market environment. Russian capitalism is bad for LIEs. Western capitalism favorable. Because there is freedom to undertake, and to be rewarded for your efforts. Personally, I need to feel that my efforts invested in a project is bringing real results that outweigh the effort put in - ILIs always have interesting ideas about automatizing work processes ime, and using their methods as tools helps move beyond the silex. Strat said something about "Sisyphian labor" being something LIEs can't stand.

    That said, while I find the financial reward important, I don't think it is everything either. "Profit", that is, what I get out of an activity, isn't exclusively financial. There is also a human element - how I'm impacting society, helping people develop their aptitudes and potential, as well as seeing the use of what I do in society. That in itself is rewarding. But you need money to get anything done in the world. So even less financial profitable projects are best backed up by more financially profitable ones. I find I get discouraged if the reward reaped is less or equal to the resources expended to acheive it - but the reward is not purely financial.
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