You know you're LIE when...
The reason which motivates you to brush your teeth for 2 minutes every night is to avoid having to pay a dentist later due to a cavity. They charge too much. (And it'll be a sign of mistake to carry around for the rest of your life)
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When you as a male fap to this
or this?
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The boy in the first picture is hot. I don't think he's LIE. Why is she showing him her fist?! What is thisOriginally Posted by COVID 007
I don't know if it truly applies, but it had me lmao
People have been so miseducated by the way the romantic styles were communicated. Gulenko could have gotten across the dynamics he observed without making references to unrelated and coercive/exploitative models.he really obscured the true dynamicsWhen you as a male fap to this
or this?
Last edited by nanashi; 07-12-2020 at 03:12 PM.
Come on you need good whipping as much as I need a diaper.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
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Life is a joke but do you have a life?
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Most ILEs I know are potty trained.
Good point but a person can still be craptastic potty user.
MOTTO: NEVER TRUST IN REALITY
Winning is for losers
Sincerely yours,
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Life is a joke but do you have a life?
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Huh. This is somewhat interesting.When you as a male fap to this
or this?
You know you're LIE when you spend most of your time thinking about the best path forward and how this fucking place is going to make money next year.
Your competition can see what you did last month and are busy copying it and claiming that they did it, and you have limited resources to devote to innovation, so you'd better be right about which path to take.
And you listen to advice from others, but most of them don't know what they hell they should be doing in four hours, much less four months or four years.
Personally, don't know what I'm going to do in four hours but I know exactly what I will be doing in 4 months and also 4 years. (If things go according to plan)
....you've sold your vision but don't have the wherewithal, tools or practical skills to make it happen.......
a.k.a. I/O
You must be thinking of LIE-Ni’s.....you've sold your vision but don't have the wherewithal, tools or practical skills to make it happen.......
a.k.a. I/O
In any case, that’s what all the resources of the world are for. Making the vision happen. For money.
Most, with whom I've worked, were superb at connecting the dots but didn't really bring any dots of their own. They often didn't know specifically what was needed so their guidance could be rather ambiguous but they certainly recognized a good thing when it was produced and used it to its full potential. However, I do recall one actually saying to an employee in a threatening tone: "If you can't tell me what I need, I'll get someone else."
a.k.a. I/O
Last edited by Rebelondeck; 05-13-2020 at 03:23 PM. Reason: Grammar
I may say about related to leading Te.
You are sure in your type when what you know about yourself fits good to the theory of this type, fits better than to other types and you know enough to be sure. What is Te objectivity.
You prefer the reason and truth above emotions, in general. As you think it's more for interests of others and yours.
Among consequences of objectivity valuing is that you have low conformism, have skepsis to bosses and athorities opinions.
Where you have basis to trust to your opinion - you tend to say it openly to anyone, where this relates to your duties and to people about who you care.
You are attracted by sympathy emotions from others. In friends and pairs value the most emotional traits, the abbility to be nice and delicate, to be behave decently. Emotionally warm and pleasant people inspire the best emotional state in you - you may get an addiction from such people. Meanwhile you are annoyed by loud emotional expressions and raptures - you more perceive them as false theatric play.
That's why you have a go to guy (or girl) for every situation.
I think it's a bit more nuanced than that, at least for me.
I do think you are right that making the vision happen in exchange for money is what LIEs do, which is why we work well in a (more or less) free market environment. Russian capitalism is bad for LIEs. Western capitalism favorable. Because there is freedom to undertake, and to be rewarded for your efforts. Personally, I need to feel that my efforts invested in a project is bringing real results that outweigh the effort put in - ILIs always have interesting ideas about automatizing work processes ime, and using their methods as tools helps move beyond the silex. Strat said something about "Sisyphian labor" being something LIEs can't stand.
That said, while I find the financial reward important, I don't think it is everything either. "Profit", that is, what I get out of an activity, isn't exclusively financial. There is also a human element - how I'm impacting society, helping people develop their aptitudes and potential, as well as seeing the use of what I do in society. That in itself is rewarding. But you need money to get anything done in the world. So even less financial profitable projects are best backed up by more financially profitable ones. I find I get discouraged if the reward reaped is less or equal to the resources expended to acheive it - but the reward is not purely financial.
What?....you've sold your vision but don't have the wherewithal, tools or practical skills to make it happen.......
a.k.a. I/O
I'm not reallty good at "selling my vision" - I don't try to pursuade others, that is so against what Te does. But I do have practical skills and tools to make things happen - I also have initiative in these matters.
Last edited by Ave; 05-18-2020 at 06:36 PM.
What do you mean by practical tools and skills?
Well for example, practical skills - like what I've picked up working as an IT technician - how to take apart computers, their components, how to reassemble etc. This is a skill I can use anywhere. Tools would be more like methods to organize work, often methods I get from ILI. For example, my ILI friend and former collegue has good ideas about how to organize production in a streamlined, efficient fashion, by first seeing which used pcs have defects, for example, and only then refurbishing them (believe it or not the people at my company decided to it the other way around). And cloning ssds in a massive fashion, etc in order to speed up production (believe it or not, we only produce one pc at a time, when actually it would be better to mass produce, seems obvious but again...).
Anyways, I dunno if you're familair with the IT terms I threw around there, but it's an example taken from my work because that's where I see how my "practical tools and skills" apply, lol. I can't really answer for others.
I did say "or". I was referring to my dealings with the type where there seemed to always be something significant missing from the package that was pitched (a catch), but the pitch was usually superb. I haven't met an LIE who couldn't pitch - now some were better than others.......
a.k.a. I/O
@Rebelondeck, can you say more about what you see as being left out of the pitch?I did say "or". I was referring to my dealings with the type where there seemed to always be something significant missing from the package that was pitched (a catch), but the pitch was usually superb. I haven't met an LIE who couldn't pitch - now some were better than others.......
a.k.a. I/O
Also, how do you think that affects the audience response?
The pitches usually attempted to skirt potential risks with a project; LIEs often seem to think that they can handle any problem ad hoc and in theory, that could be true but the devil is in the details. What bites them in the ass bites the customer or backer of the project. In half the cases, it's not deliberate because LIEs seem to downplay risk or the unknowns even to themselves so it's usually up to the third party to uncover it. The audience, once burnt, distrusts the LIEs abilities so they usually have to move on.
a.k.a. I/O
It isn't really my intent to "pitch" if it's what I do lol. Usually I'll propose my ideas and hope that others will see the appeal in the idea itself, rather than have them focus on my discourse.I did say "or". I was referring to my dealings with the type where there seemed to always be something significant missing from the package that was pitched (a catch), but the pitch was usually superb. I haven't met an LIE who couldn't pitch - now some were better than others.......
a.k.a. I/O
LIE's ability to connect the dots shows up in most of their written and verbal communication because content is usually well structured, logical and easy to follow; being able to move, ad hoc, the focus of an audience to a targetted idea is a real strength. Again, some are better at it than others but on average, LIEs tend to be the best at explaining complex concepts to the uninformed even though the ideas can be faulty.
a.k.a. I/O
Good thing about LIIs is that they tend to foresee these kinds of difficulties in projects so it's good to keep their warnings in mind. But don't trust them to push things forward, have to remember that Se PoLR passivity in forcing things when sometimes all you need is an application of force.
I have said many times that LIIs are much better and more comfortable behind the throne than on it. However, when they find themselves on it, many tend to step up and are often quite successful. Confident Ti-subs seem to to acquire very thick skins, which is something that every leader/manager needs, and their seeming natural bent toward ruthlessness can sometimes be helpful.
a.k.a. I/O
Unfortunately, many LIEs suffer from tunnel-vision (not as much as some Ips that I know but it can be significant), which can be both an asset and a weakness. LIEs don't seem to do well in the weeds and often don't pay enough attention to them; for them, failure seems to come from below and not from ahead where they usually have a clearer vision.
a.k.a. I/O
I've known that I have a kind of tunnel vision for years, and I can tell you why LIE's in general have this.
LIE's excel at harnessing the things readily available right now to solve some problems in the future. As @sbbds said in chat, LIE's make things out of junk. These things aren't really new inventions, usually. That's the realm of the ILE's and the LII's. But they are usually common things used in a way that no one else has seen before. Or assembled into a new configuration that has far-reaching consequences.
Whenever you introduce something new to people, you get a very, very few early adopters and lots and lots of people telling you that you are crazy, that this thing is stupid and useless, that there is absolutely no market for this, etcetera, etcetera, and very often, the nay-sayers are right. They are "right" for the world as it is, not for the world as it could be.
So LIE's get this almost universally negative response to the main thing that they do, and if they listened to the nay-sayers, they would be frozen in their tracks. And so, an LIE will foresee a need for something, will consider all the reasonably conceivable approaches for how to accomplish the task, will pick the best course of action and will commit to it. And then they will stop listening to other people. At that point, the LIE says, everyone just needs to get with the program and stay on course.
This, of course, is where I have made some of my most stupid mistakes. Not listening to other people, not doing enough homework before committing, and not doing course-corrections after the stupid is glaringly obvious to everyone, including me. Of these three, I first started learning to do course corrections. Next, I started finding better counselors for deciding what resources need to be applied. The hardest thing for me to do is to listen to other people, especially if I want to do something and they are telling me that it doesn't make sense to do it.
When I catch myself doing this, if I catch myself doing this, it is a clear sign to me that I'm not thinking rationally about the problem, but it can totally, totally look like tunnel vision to anyone who is watching the process.
Henry Ford once said: "If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said 'faster horses'". Just food for thought; I'm not here to felate LIEs.
As a LIE (Ni) i can relate to this a lot!
true, im not LIE and i let my teeth rot cuz I love going to the dentist.
keep your sarcasm for reddit, here is meant the reason which is not immediately and predominantly related to "beauty" or feeling a sense of cleanliness and freshness or comfort in the mouth but the brain pays immediate attention to long term financial and logical consequences
Hence my answer. Since my Ni is 1d and my Te unvalued I let my teeth rot so I can pay extra cash to my dentist <3
For SLE, Ni is quite weak and as you mentioned, Te unvalued, therefore I understand that it will be difficult to grasp the idea of a "sequence in the thought process prior to a decision"
For me as a child it was an exercise. Would try to go as far back from Z as possible. Why am I here? What did I think to decide to come here? What did I think to think in order to make a decision to come here? Until for example I would find a funny connection. "Mom gave me a candy so now I am at my aunt's house"
That might have to do with Te since it's an algorithm.
There is an idea however, that static types are more inclined to develop habits such as brushing teeth at a certain time every night. There is no evidence on this. Maybe you might care to make yourself useful and explain that a bit? (Your thought process)
Last edited by Zero; 05-22-2020 at 12:42 PM. Reason: Clarifying
Make myself useful? You are the moron who thinks that brushing your teeth to avoid going to the dentist which costs money, (o rlly?) Makes you LIE. If youre LIE you must be the dumbest mfkin LIE ive ever seen
You know you’re LIE when you have a face and manner like Peter Cushing.
An estp here explained enjoying doing, performing during sex. That isn't aggression. That is action.
I know Ni types who enjoy utilizing motion in nonsexual and sexual situations. That doesn't mean they aren't moving, themselves, and that doesn't mean they seem nor feel inferior nor subjugated nor inactive. Surfing waves isn't inactive. Gulenko noted the value Ni types place on Se action. He mistakenly talked about one-sided respect and even superiority which can sway readers subconsciously. And the surfer's pattern seeking and insight and projection, utilization, adaptation inspires awe, too, not just the lake or ocean's motion and power, etc. Ni types get awed reactions from partners during sex, too.
Ne types I've known enjoy playfulness with a steady partner, ime. They are still adults, just innovative, whimsical ones.
Si types and I interact less, but I've heard them express what they like to experience, and no imbalance in maturity nor in age comes into it.
Last edited by nanashi; 07-18-2020 at 03:01 PM.
when you are not attracted to dramas and don't have a fancy signature with many smiles, what would pointed on F type
when you prefer F types in IR test, but not T
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