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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You said that reality changed when new ideas like the microscope came along, but reality did not change. Only our beliefs and understanding of reality changed..
    I'm not sure if reality really exists independent of our perceptions of it... sure, there's this wide thing out there called the world that we look at and extrapolate based on, but what is it if it isn't our perceptions? Note that I didn't use the word belief in my argument, I was talking about raw views of it, improved as time goes on.

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    If beliefs were reality, we wouldn't be trying to understand nature because it would already conform to our beliefs. It would be turtles all the way down.


    Besides all the denial of scientific discovery that's evident that I could be using as proof here, reality is not what webelieve, but the verified, continually updated collective mental model we have of it (scientific). It's possible to draw a line of best fit and say this is probably real, but we don't know if what our metrics are measuring is actually "reality".

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    @safsom2 Yeah, you are definitely Ni ego, most likely leading.

    I want to correct you, but I'm only going to copy/paste what I said before to multiples users, which is boring. I find myself repeating the same ideas and getting no reactions, so maybe you have to reach these conclusions by yourself. Read more on models, you clearly have a very shallow understanding. No one is going to call you out on it since you are still young, but please take the time to learn what others have written about the subject if you want to have a constructive discussion. You haven't even scratched the surface yet, any answer you are given now would be like throwing you into the deep end while making sure you don't drown, which is a hassle, because you will keep coming back with more questions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by COOL AND MANLY View Post
    @safsom2 Yeah, you are definitely Ni ego, most likely leading.

    I want to correct you, but I'm only going to copy/paste what I said before to multiples users, which is boring. I find myself repeating the same ideas and getting no reactions, so maybe you have to reach these conclusions by yourself. Read more on models, you clearly have a very shallow understanding. No one is going to call you out on it since you are still young, but please take the time to learn what others have written about the subject if you want to have a constructive discussion. You haven't even scratched the surface yet, any answer you are given now would be like throwing you into the deep end while making sure you don't drown, which is a hassle, because you will keep coming back with more questions.
    Put constructive due to the 2nd paragraph (idk about his typing). My thinking exactly

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