Those EIIs of yours I would type as ESI with the ability to not get totally subjugated and with enough ability for strict discipline. What I talked about has nothing to do with altruism or selfishness or amount of times saying "no". I was speaking of obedience and deference to authority. And about lack of assertiveness in the face of abuse & lack of discipline in terms of how EIIs try to have discipline for themselves sure, but they can't enforce it for others like ESIs can.