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    Question When will instinctual variants be fixed

    Guys, i'm nearly 16 years old ( lol ), is my instinctual variants fixed or will it be in adulthood?


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    Mine switched from 5w6 to 8w7.
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    When I was 15 (only 4 years ago) I thought I was INTP (INTj). Give it time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiel View Post
    Mine switched from 5w6 to 8w7.
    Maybe you switch between them in your tritype. ( I mean one type is your actual type, because you switch between the top two types when making decisions )
    I meant if I have actually figured out my type ( I didn't anyway ) will it still be the same type after some years?


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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    When I was 15 (only 4 years ago) I thought I was INTP (INTj). Give it time
    Maybe you just mistyped. I have done the test 2 times I guess and got infp.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    Maybe you just mistyped. I have done the test 2 times I guess and got infp.
    I did mistype, and greatly at that, lol. What I'm saying is that tests are based on your own perception of yourself, and even when other people are typing you, you can lie to them by virtue of constantly lying to yourself about your own qualities too. And it's very easy to do that when you're an impressionable teenager who thinks they know shit but actually they know nothing at all. It's hard to know yourself before 25, and I don't really know myself either right now, despite having found "my type". If you want to find your instincts or your type in order to /learn/ what you are like, I would advise against that -- because if you don't know yourself, you're prone to altering your behavior in order to fit a mold you think you're like or want to be like -- which can be detrimental in the long run. You should look for information about yourself within yourself, and only then attempt to type. You can't do it the other way around.

    So a roundabout answer to your question is... Yes, your instincts will probably solidify later in adulthood, when you have more knowledge about yourself through life experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    Maybe you switch between them in your tritype. ( I mean one type is your actual type, because you switch between the top two types when making decisions )
    I meant if I have actually figured out my type ( I didn't anyway ) will it still be the same type after some years?
    Yes 8 disintigrated into 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    I did mistype, and greatly at that, lol. What I'm saying is that tests are based on your own perception of yourself, and even when other people are typing you, you can lie to them by virtue of constantly lying to yourself about your own qualities too. And it's very easy to do that when you're an impressionable teenager who thinks they know shit but actually they know nothing at all. It's hard to know yourself before 25, and I don't really know myself either right now, despite having found "my type". If you want to find your instincts or your type in order to /learn/ what you are like, I would advise against that -- because if you don't know yourself, you're prone to altering your behavior in order to fit a mold you think you're like or want to be like -- which can be detrimental in the long run. You should look for information about yourself within yourself, and only then attempt to type. You can't do it the other way around.

    So a roundabout answer to your question is... Yes, your instincts will probably solidify later in adulthood, when you have more knowledge about yourself through life experience.
    Actually I observe my behaviours and the motivation behind my behaviours rather than my values or what my self image is. And I am completely ready to choose the honest answer even if I don't like it, the problem is I have a selective memory, I see the memory that includes the answer which is yes or no and the answer relates to the most experiences I have had. The problem is there isn't much instructions to how I take the test rather than BE HONEST, wtf I can be honest while I choose any answer I like, what do you want ?!
    Anyway, you mean I must come back to enneagram after 5 years to know my type? Lol funk my type.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiel View Post
    Yes 8 disintigrated into 5.
    Aha but you mean 8 is your top type right ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    Actually I observe my behaviours and the motivation behind my behaviours rather than my values or what my self image is. And I am completely ready to choose the honest answer even if I don't like it, the problem is I have a selective memory, I see the memory that includes the answer which is yes or no and the answer relates to the most experiences I have had. The problem is there isn't much instructions to how I take the test rather than BE HONEST, wtf I can be honest while I choose any answer I like, what do you want ?!
    Anyway, you mean I must come back to enneagram after 5 years to know my type? Lol funk my type.
    lol, people are fluid, and of course you need to come back and reassess your type periodically in order to find out whether your new experiences have made you change your perception of yourself and therefore help you to arrive to a more accurate typing

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    lol, people are fluid, and of course you need to come back and reassess your type periodically in order to find out whether your new experiences have made you change your perception of yourself and therefore help you to arrive to a more accurate typing
    No I don't need to , thank you anyway lol. If people are fluid ( not if lol, of course they are.. ) why should I define myself anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    No I don't need to , thank you anyway lol. If people are fluid ( not if lol, of course they are.. ) why should I define myself anyway.
    if you're not seeking accuracy of typing, why are you even on this forum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by voider View Post
    if you're not seeking accuracy of typing, why are you even on this forum?
    This is why I am here actually... lol..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    Actually I observe my behaviours and the motivation behind my behaviours rather than my values or what my self image is. And I am completely ready to choose the honest answer even if I don't like it, the problem is I have a selective memory, I see the memory that includes the answer which is yes or no and the answer relates to the most experiences I have had. The problem is there isn't much instructions to how I take the test rather than BE HONEST, wtf I can be honest while I choose any answer I like, what do you want ?!
    Anyway, you mean I must come back to enneagram after 5 years to know my type? Lol funk my type.
    Gurl, why so defensive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Gurl, why so defensive?
    *cough*, Im MALE and STRAIGHT.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    *cough*, Im MALE and STRAIGHT.
    Way to prove my point gurl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    This is why I am here actually... lol..
    You understand that's contradicting your previous post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Accipiter View Post
    You understand that's contradicting your previous post?
    No, I was here to type myself. And It took me long time on enneagram, the fact that it isn't accurate until adulthood will give me paralysis. After all that time "enneagram isn't accurate until adulthood" .....


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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Way to prove my point gurl.
    But you don't need to say that lol.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Farag View Post
    Actually I observe my behaviours and the motivation behind my behaviours rather than my values or what my self image is. And I am completely ready to choose the honest answer even if I don't like it, the problem is I have a selective memory, I see the memory that includes the answer which is yes or no and the answer relates to the most experiences I have had. The problem is there isn't much instructions to how I take the test rather than BE HONEST, wtf I can be honest while I choose any answer I like, what do you want ?!
    Anyway, you mean I must come back to enneagram after 5 years to know my type? Lol funk my type.
    Hah, yeah, I have the same problem with being honest in tests, which circumstance am I supposed to base this honesty on?
    I also don't think you have to wait until you're 25 for accurate typing, that's nonsense. It happens when it happens, that's all. Not everyone will be able to self-type from one page of function theory, and not everyone will need ten years of intensive study; follow your own course, it will turn out alright.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phi View Post
    Hah, yeah, I have the same problem with being honest in tests, which circumstance am I supposed to base this honesty on?
    I also don't think you have to wait until you're 25 for accurate typing, that's nonsense. It happens when it happens, that's all. Not everyone will be able to self-type from one page of function theory, and not everyone will need ten years of intensive study; follow your own course, it will turn out alright.
    Now I still have something to obsess over, thank you !


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    Quote Originally Posted by Remiel View Post
    Yes 8 disintigrated into 5.
    So you didn't switch types you just got healthier and more mature.

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    Instincts are for animals.
    Socionics is not behaviorist!

    "This is the bizarre thing about being a superhero — you've even got to save the bad guys." -- Captain Planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SocietyOTLittleFlower View Post
    Instincts are for animals.
    moo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SocietyOTLittleFlower View Post
    Instincts are for animals.
    LoL I agree haaaha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SocietyOTLittleFlower View Post
    Instincts are for animals.
    I'm an animal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Samson View Post
    I'm an animal.
    Speak for yourself.
    Socionics is not behaviorist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SocietyOTLittleFlower View Post
    Speak for yourself.
    That's what I did LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by citronnade View Post
    So you didn't switch types you just got healthier and more mature.
    I made some major changes that allowed my true types to emerge. But sure, health and maturity vector into that.
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