Paging @Adam Strange ! I know I'm not crazy. Does the OP remotely come off as ESI to you? Cause I'm not seeing it, like at all.
Hi, @Alonzo.
I agree with @sbbds. I think the OP is ILI. Probably the Te sub-type. His answers to the questionnaire seem to be about as ILI as they come. He appears to be rational, bloodless, future-oriented, solitary, self-sufficient and acutely aware of the future value of money. Probably dresses in black and works in IT for a bank. (I haven't read the whole thread, so that's a wild guess.)
Seems like a nice guy.
I'm not sure why he thinks he's ESI, unless its some kind of slightly-off Dual seeking. However, I try not to battle-type and if he thinks he is ESI, then I'm not going to tell him he isn't.
I once went to a party with a thin ILI guy who wore a green skintight Riddler costume which left little to the imagination. The costume was really good in detail, and the guy was thin and had the body for it, but I'm not sure he could clearly see how he appeared to others at the party. His costume almost looked like body paint. Not many women approached him. In fact, he had an electrifying effect on the party's female host when he walked in and he could empty a room pretty effectively, but maybe this was part of his plan to filter for an SEE, IDK.
Dat Fe-PoLR, it's a Joker.
*EDIT*
The OP's name, Redundant - Oxymoron, is a self-identifying statement of feeling "surplus" and unneeded, and of feeling self-contradicted.
Almost the defining characteristic of ILI's is that they are Fe-PoLR Victims, which means that they don't appear to care what anyone else in society thinks and they aren't going to adapt to the crowd (they are redundant to society), but they very much want to be wanted by someone (Victims), which together can seem incredibly contradictory to them.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 03-19-2020 at 02:01 PM.
This does not smell like valued or high Te to me lol. @Adam Strange
Well, true, @sbbds, but there are people of all ilk who write on this forum. I just assumed that the OP was doing a fly-by of Socionics. You know, "Came from MBTI, just dropped in to drop a few bombs, then flew on."
Although I hope the OP sticks around. As I said, she seems like a nice guy. Or woman. Whatever.
@redundantoxymoron, it is really hard to get banned for using words here. Almost impossible, in fact. What people usually get banned for is harassing members who don't like to be harassed. Harassing members who do like to get harassed is fine, though.
I see you are a strong believer in Christ. I sometimes find women on dating sites who express the same feelings. I interpret their convictions to their need to have some absolute certainty in their lives, and to provide a strong defense against intrusions against them by overly aggressive people. Do you think that applies to you, or not?
Fundamentally, a Pi base/Ip temperament typing makes no sense for me because I don't experience boredom, inaction, or inertia. I'm always moving - mentally, if not also physically. I think of way too many things to do and have a running list of projects that are not yet started or in various stages of partial completion.
I've never needed someone else to push, motivate, or mobilize me into action. I don't care about pushing or mobilizing others into action either, and to be honest I don't believe that most people can get "bored" as they claim. I think they are lying. So I refuse to help them on principle. But I certainly don't need someone else's help with this either, and reject offers of advice in this area.
I would give a kidney for any part of this to be true.
I'm flattered.
Also. This isn't a "hit and run" posting. I don't check here every day. I usually only have time on weekends. So might not have time until next weekend now. I will remember to check later this weekend, maybe.
Just because I don't spend all day, every day on Socionics does not mean I'm planning to abandon this thread.
No but it has everything to do with the fact you claimed to be Ne PoLR because you dislike unrealistic ideas yet here you are telling others that an “omnibenevolent” magical being in the sky will make them burn in a fiery pit of doom for eternity because they don’t subscribe to your religious beliefs.
Not only that but you describe yourself as confrontational and Se, yet you are one of the most passive aggressive members on this forum spouting shit like “your fate is not up to me”. The Te is non existent in you, and the fact you don’t see this hypocrisy proves that.
this thread is very ironic. the title says "Please help me", yet all assistance in the thread has been rejected in favor your own conclusions. Ne PoLR might actually work for you.
@redundantoxymoron
The way you explained that you're being Se in this thread suggests unvalued Se. Lol. It's so passive aggressive and just telling, not showing. The way you're acting makes it seem like you're just begging for someone to come and attack you and get you off your high horse. You wouldn't even say the word whore to sb's face, merely bitchily insinuated it.
Congratulations. You've succeeded (where many others also have) in finding the secret, 17th type: asshole. We get it, you're a machine and you only need oil because motivation and fluctuation in drive is something for puny humans and whores who succumb to their base, ungodly needs... And btw, Se motivates not just oneself but others into motion too. Getting on top isn't the end goal, the end goal is influencing change and bettering your surroundings in one way of another: to lead means to have the trust of your people to do what's right. If you read it as totalitarian, that's just your own projection onto the description.Fundamentally, a Pi base/Ip temperament typing makes no sense for me because I don't experience boredom, inaction, or inertia. I'm always moving - mentally, if not also physically. I think of way too many things to do and have a running list of projects that are not yet started or in various stages of partial completion.
I've never needed someone else to push, motivate, or mobilize me into action. I don't care about pushing or mobilizing others into action either, and to be honest I don't believe that most people can get "bored" as they claim. I think they are lying. So I refuse to help them on principle. But I certainly don't need someone else's help with this either, and reject offers of advice in this area.
I actually don't have a suggestion for your type, because socionics isn't for you. You won't find a justification for your shitty personality in it.
Just one thing: "I'm always moving - mentally, if not also physically. I think of way too many things to do and have a running list of projects that are not yet started or in various stages of partial completion." This is a P trait.
You guys take this shit too seriously sometimes. Three pages that read a like a fucking raid instead of a typing thread.
This, so much this.
@redundantoxymoron Stop using religion as a veil for your passive aggressive comments and just say it directly to that person. Deflecting everything on to others and claiming everyone else is not being "confrontational" or "impactful" in anyway, you just end up looking like a blubbering mess.
I thank and apologize to those who took my side in defense of me.. I’m going to highlight the points in this thread that irked me and made me decide to want to poke OP to test “her” reaction, to make it more justified.
I am not going to bother requoting any of my own posts because it’s obvious that the majority of them were indeed constructive, and the OP did ignore them.
It is not typing that is being taken too seriously here, but a person’s shitty interpersonal attitude towards many people, which is being rightfully exposed and critiqued:
OP was saying that to remiges, who had been creating long in-depth posts in an effort to help her. Note that remiges has been nothing but charitably constructive in this entire thread. This might seem minor at first but let’s continue...
When asked what PoLR OP relates most to. Wow, OP sees themselves as having no real weaknesses, really. Must have an extremely humble opinion of themselves. I couldn’t tell at all, especially not when they tried to pretentiously display their Ti prowess by pasting fucking code into a post in this thread lmao: https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ality-2D-or-3D
Still, these little character beauty marks are brushed off or fly by the heads of posters, and they continue trying to read her extremely long, boring, self-absorbed post and trying to help her with long, in-depth replies. Note that most type me threads made by newbies do not typically receive such long, in-depth responses with people charitably helping them, but OP makes little dismissive quips towards them anyway. Let’s keep going. It gets worse.
^ The above was in response to Ajnas post, which was completely positive and non-critical, paying OP compliments, calling her long TLDR post interesting (I did too at first before I saw this shit, which is why I clicked Like on it). And this is the attitude Ajna gets in response where OP completely deconstructs, insults and dismisses the post rudely, as a new user who doesn’t even have a good enough handle on the theory to shut up and type themselves without asking for help from others.
Meanwhile, OP doesn’t even consider why Ajna would make such statements. Obviously “strong Fe” and “strong thinking” could be resolved by VALUING Fe, yet being a thinking type, or some such interpretation. But this retardmoron jumps to biting the hand that thinks for her.
Finally, the above is amazing. It’s a response to Aramas on the first page, claiming that somewhere in her long as post where she claims things like she hates memorizing things, and does not talk about food or comfort at all almost, she has “obviously strong Si”, and passive-aggressively insinuating that he didn’t read anything and should have combed through all of that bs on a wild goose chase for something that does not in fact exist.
In summary, OP is a dick with a high opinion of themselves. Acts like a dick to those trying to be helpful. Wants to be seen as a conservative traditional lady, but sadly everyone assumed they were just a boring dude, and failed at not making themselves look like a total asshole even as someone who claimed to have “higher than normative Fe” in another thread lol. Calls other people’s points contradictory and is a complete asshole to them about it, without even logically evaluating the content using common sense socionics premises for the intended meaning. Retypes others in her type me thread where she has convinced nobody that she herself is typed right yet. Thinks they have fantastic Ti role or HA, fantastic Si and Fe, amazing logic, and no faults that can’t be explained away by their deformed eyeballs and undying devotion to God.
So, LSI. OK. Not bad.
Makes me wonder how did you match with IEE?
From my experience there are ESI's who (after initial judgmental phase) try to kiss my ass pretty heavily or they are just relived and do not think bad about me but they make me wary because they do similar tests others + the initial test procedure which is..
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Idk if it's type related but I've seen that "no weaknesses" thing pop up in other SEIs. Whenever I've gotten one of the SEIs I've known to take some socionics test they seem to answer that they are good at everything. I'd assume this is a coincidence, but thought it was interesting to bring up.
"Avatar, the trash type bender." I just don't understand how someone can allegedly study Socionics for a decade and still be so clueless as to what their type is...unless they're claiming that all of their functions are so developed and fully actualized that they've hit the God Tier and abandoned all petty mortal failings. lol OP gives strong sock puppet troll account and/or Bitter Betty vibes, like they're trying to make some point about Socionics' limitations.