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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Once you get outside Ann Arbor city limits, Michigan is pretty conservative. Remember the Oklahoma bomber, Timothy McVeigh? Michigan. The Michigan Militia? Michigan. Betsy DeVos, destroyer of public teacher's unions? Michigan. DeVos' brother Erik Prince, founder of Blackwater and fan of private armies? Michigan. When I was working as a factory rat in Southfield, one of my co-workers boasted that he and his biker buddies had burned a cross in the front yard of a black family that had the temerity to move into Redford. When I first started working in the tool-and-die factories in Detroit during my summers out of University, I asked one of the foremen why everyone in the plant was white. He said, and I quote, "We don't hire nig-gers here."
    In the 1920's, Michigan had more KKK members than any Southern state. https://www.michiganradio.org/post/k...mist-movements

    Michigan is packed with Authoritarian morons. Most of them are racists. If I didn't live in Ann Arbor, I'd move to the West Coast.

    I moved to Michigan because I got into the Physics Honors program at the U of M. In my first summer there, I looked for work in Detroit along Eight Mile Rd, and I remember the shock I had encountering the people there and the look of the place. I instantly resolved never to live anywhere near there. It's not just that it's not safe, or that it's your ability to bring violence vs. their ability to bring violence, it's the entire feel of the place. "Dehumanizing" would be a generous description of the place.
    It is a beautiful state though. I visited for a couple weeks back in, I don't know... around 2003, 2004? I visited a town with about 3,000 people that started with an M, and I visited a town on the other side of the main peninsula that was near Sault-Ste Marie. It was the first time I ever had venison, which I will admit, was tasty. I remember there was so much water throughout the state on my drives, and a scene of a horse against a sunset on quite flat land.

    I could see where you are right about it being a more conservative state though. It's the same here in Arizona, and Arizona is also a beautiful place, but too many snowbirds and conservatives... : (

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    It is a beautiful state though. I visited for a couple weeks back in, I don't know... around 2003, 2004? I visited a town with about 3,000 people that started with an M, and I visited a town on the other side of the main peninsula that was near Sault-Ste Marie. It was the first time I ever had venison, which I will admit, was tasty. I remember there was so much water throughout the state on my drives, and a scene of a horse against a sunset on quite flat land.

    I could see where you are right about it being a more conservative state though. It's the same here in Arizona, and Arizona is also a beautiful place, but too many snowbirds and conservatives... : (
    That town might have been Marquette. Yes, it is very pretty. The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is very nice. I've vacationed there a lot. And yes, there is a LOT of water. Trees and water, that's Michigan, once you are outside the car factories of Detroit and the furniture factories of Grand Rapids. Michigan also produces more hay for horses than most states. Half the women on dating sites have pictures of themselves with their horses.

    I've also visited Arizona often, mostly around Tucson, but other parts of the state, too. I like the place. Fantastic skies and air, but not much water, unfortunately.

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    You are right on lack of water lol, though I know some good spots, particularly around Tucson : ) I mean, I guess it's pretty weak in comparison still to a lot of places, lol. Yes the skies here are the best, I've seen some mind-blowing sunsets. You should also check out Sedona sometime if you ever come again (maybe you've been there already). I hope to visit Havasu Falls one day, explore more of the Grand Canyon, Monument Valley, and about a million other places. I will do some research on Marquette and see if that may have been it!

    [OTE=Adam Strange;1385356]That town might have been Marquette. Yes, it is very pretty. The Upper Peninsula of Michigan is very nice. I've vacationed there a lot. And yes, there is a LOT of water. Trees and water, that's Michigan, once you are outside the car factories of Detroit and the furniture factories of Grand Rapids. Michigan also produces more hay for horses than most states. Half the women on dating sites have pictures of themselves with their horses.

    I've also visited Arizona often, mostly around Tucson, but other parts of the state, too. I like the place. Fantastic skies and air, but not much water, unfortunately.

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    "True" Americans always get a pass from the right wing media machine. It doesn't take a lot of imagination to think how they'd spin this incident if it had been ANTIFA; folks like Jordan Peterson would never shut up about how the left has been hijacked by "violent revolutionaries" intent on destroying Western values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    ... never shut up about how the left has been hijacked by "violent revolutionaries" intent on destroying Western values.
    The left has already destroyed western values with their multicultural utopia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    The left has already destroyed western values with their multicultural utopia.
    Diversity is a Western value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Diversity is a Western value.
    Diversity and multiculturalism are the ultimate viruses for western societies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    The left has already destroyed western values with their multicultural utopia.
    Really? We already brought an end to the bourgeoisie and all the states they have set up over the past few centuries which act in their interest? We did it comrades! Worldwide communism achieved!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Really? We already brought an end to the bourgeoisie and all the states they have set up over the past few centuries which act in their interest? We did it comrades! Worldwide communism achieved!
    Nice gun. You now where to stick it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    Really? We already brought an end to the bourgeoisie and all the states they have set up over the past few centuries which act in their interest? We did it comrades! Worldwide communism achieved!
    Communism through the back door

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Folks like Jordan Peterson would never shut up about how the left has been hijacked by "violent revolutionaries" intent on destroying Western values.
    Keep speaking of ghost and one might just show up.....

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