Does Se PoLR hold EII back from talking action?

[Minde]

How would you respond to your plans being changed or disrupted @Lord Pixel ? Would you say that you can easily and smoothly adapt? I mean, you guys are IJ types too. Of course if there’s nothing you can do about it then you just have to.

I know you weren't asking me, but I'll answer anyway. I don't respond well and will often plant my feet, so to speak, and dig in. If I have some time to absorb the proposed changes, often I'll become more ok with it. What I really hate is if then, after coming to terms with the change, things get changed again, lol.

The perceivers in my quadra can be a bit like that - doing sudden changes and being ok with them. But they're also a lot more likely to be understanding of my need for time to process than those outside my quadra. Not entirely sure of the process behind that. IEEs will flutter around, doing funny things to their environment while they wait or talking me through the options, and SLIs sit down and relax / do something quietly useful.

Anyway, that was a tangent.

I’m speaking from experience with my ex lol as he did not like it and complained. He would not budge at times when “pushed”. And several other EIIs I’ve known have been kind of controlling and pushy, backed up with “principles”. I really don’t think that xII are incapable of pushing people or taking control of their own lives. That would be like saying Fi polrs are incapable of eliciting attachment from people or something.

Yeah, some EII descriptions portray them as quite manipulative, in fact, in terms of trying to control others. It's just less in-your-face and up front, unless they get flustered and frustrated.

I think once XIIs set their minds on something, in can be hard to change them. So milquetoast is not a good descriptor, not as an overall term.

[Lord Pixel]

I know you weren't asking me, but I'll answer anyway. I don't respond well and will often plant my feet, so to speak, and dig in. If I have some time to absorb the proposed changes, often I'll become more ok with it. What I really hate is if then, after coming to terms with the change, things get changed again, lol.

Yes I'm just like this.

Yeah, some EII descriptions portray them as quite manipulative, in fact, in terms of trying to control others. It's just less in-your-face and up front, unless they get flustered and frustrated.

Well yea you end up resulting to manipulating because you can't yell to get what you want cuz what r u gonna do if someone yells louder, you can't fight because what if someone fights harder, that's how I experience my Se PoLR. This sort of like "the world has this thing in droves compared to me, so I cant use it to compete." So psychological coaxing manipulation ensues since that's what I got.