Lmao yup. Using glasses for bad eyesight also = IQ points.Originally Posted by myresearch
Lmao yup. Using glasses for bad eyesight also = IQ points.
I swear SLI are cat whisperers.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
I had a three hour dinner with an Identical on Sunday.
He didn’t why the hell he was doing anything, either.
I always had a hunch that UX designers are usually IEE.
Bound upon me, rush upon me, I will overcome you by enduring your onset: whatever strikes against that which is firm and unconquerable merely injures itself by its own violence. Wherefore, seek some soft and yielding object to pierce with your darts.
-Seneca
About once every four to six weeks, I get together with an LIE buddy of mine, usually at his suggestion.
It’s interesting in some ways. From my perspective, we exchange information pretty well, but we really don’t agree to collaborate on anything, and I find these meetings to be fairly boring.
He knows nothing about Socionics and is not married to a Dual, although I could not tell you his wife’s type because I only met her once, a long time ago, and I had been drinking so I wasn’t really at my best.
I suspect that he likes getting together because I’m someone whom he relates to well, and he’s not aware of the limitations inherent in an Identical relationship.
Two meetings ago, I suggested that we invite our mutual ESI friend to come along with us. The LIE seemed disappointed that I didn’t want to meet with him exclusively, but reluctantly agreed to a threesome.
The ESI was delighted to join us and said several times that he’d like to do this every week. The LIE said, “Weeeeellllll, we really don’t do this every week. In fact, we only get together occasionally.” Which was true, but it dodged the ESI’s intent.
When the three of us got together, I had a really good time. The ESI was telling stories about the people he knows, which really humanized the discussion. Usually, the other LIE and I talk about really dry engineering topics. But although I thought the tone of the conversation was much improved by the ESI, the other LIE was not so happy.
When the LIE suggested last week that he and I get together again, he made no mention of inviting the ESI, and since he initiated the party, I thought it polite to not force the presence of a third person onto him if he didn’t want him. And yes, the discussion he and I had was pretty boring to me.
I have another LIE buddy who is married to an EII. He has met the ESI who is redecorating my house and he doesn’t like her. Lol. He’s an idiot. I also think his marriage to the EII is disintegrating.
Why are some LIEs so completely clueless?
I mean, I didn’t marry an ESI, either, so it’s not like I’m a genius or anything, and ESIs really are hard to meet. In fact, if there isn’t a work-related reason for meeting an ESI, it’s almost impossible to approach one.
On the other hand, if you dualize once (and you’re aware of what, exactly, is happening), then you’re not going to settle for second best.
I had a great friend in high school who was an ESI. He claimed that he wasn’t that smart (but managed to get a PhD in Astrophysics) and he looked goofy, like he was descended from birds or something. He was skinny and his front teeth stuck out, and I loved that guy. I’d have killed for him.
When we split up to go to different universities, I thought he was just a friend and I’d make plenty of friends just like him at school.
I was wrong.
It is not them, it is you.
If someone conditioned themselves that this person is their dual and if they idealize this, then they would not see the other person truly and this would not be good for both parties.
I believe in ITR but NTR can be much more important. So not every dual is not going to like each other, not every dual is gonna work.
Regardless of all things, since you KNOW the theory, you are acting in a way that you wouldn't without knowing theory. That also causes problems since you are not acting like your regular type.
If you go on a date and act like yourself minus socionics info, things would be better imo. If you forget that, cut yourself some slack go on a non ESI date, remember what you were like then return to your chosen path if you wish so.
It's MBTI, but whatever.
There was this thing about how the base function interacts with the seeking function, Te and Fi was:
Fi: I'm pretty sure this is morally terrible.
Te: I'm pretty sure FEELINGS DON'T EXIST.
It keeps popping up in my head from time to time. Not the other stacks, just Te-Fi.
My son wants me to type one of his friends but I've never met him. I've only heard stories:
At school he showed my son a video of him behind a girl banging her and taking a hit off a joint at the same time...(no nudity)
He doesn't care what other people think or if their feelings are hurt. He's the class clown. He's a mechanic.
He brought his mini motorcycle to school and drove it into the class room whilst ignoring the teacher yelling at him...
A spiritualist came in to talk to the class and when my son's friend walked in the spiritualist said "a very dark energy just walked into the room" and he sat down.. My son's friend said "I always wanted to be able to bring a man to his knees just but entering the room"
So far I guessed SLE, but I'm not positive.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
I know a married IEI-EII couple. I've been trying to get a sense of their relationship, but while I know both individually, I don't see them interact with each other often. Neither of them strike me as the most grounded of individuals so I'm darkly curious how they manage together.
I don't know if it's a Sp thing.
Normally I'm appear to be weak, avoiding any unnecessary troubles, never get into a fight if I have any other options. But if someone was trying to harm my money/resource/living space/..., then I went full 100% fighting mode, and much more aggressive. Many people were suprise about that, like I were transforming from a harmless EII to a fucking greedy LIE.
There's a darkness to intimacy and you can't be afraid to go there- I think especially if you're heterosexual. /hides
nah even if you are gay it's like this too I think but maybe not quite as extreme. since gay guys are socially conditioned to be able to enjoy silly musical theaters even after we perv out.
You don't get a relationship usually acting overly positive and cheeky- unless maybe ur Delta. /hides again
It's not really about being an asshole, at least not 'just' - I think it's about being dark and exploring the darkness. Men with dark triad personality traits stereotypically get a lot of female attention. Maybe not the 'right' kind of course and... no this isn't "healthy" either obviously. But it usually works.
Every str8 woman I know, whether they are with a nice guy or an asshole or a bit of both - is with somebody that makes them instinctively feel like they are protecting them from predators in the wild. Not online but in real life. If ur not doing that for whatever reason I don't think it's gonna work or you've been incredibly "blue pilled."
Or they have drunk the Delta spirituality kool-aid. This has truth to it though even though I'm making fun of it- Alex Marchand talks about this. It's because a person has replaced their 'am I weaker or stronger than this other person' with an equanimity mindset. And the highest nature of love is non-duality. For all of socionics talks about duals, in a spiritual sense- that's actually incredibly regressive and spirituality backwards when taken too literally.
It really is about confidence or arrogance. You post a lot about being repulsed by other LIEs lately. But I think if you loved ur own 'LIE-ness' or whatever- you would attract more women since women instinctively enjoy men who love themselves and what they are doing in their own lives- not men who are preoccupied with finding the 'right' person. Because as crude as it sounds, they already have a p*ssy and they don't need another one. /hides
Kill the beta male within you and just be a Chad lolol j/k. Kinda. I have yet to destroy my own beta male ness so it's too unfair of me to ask you to do the same. xD Like the great sensei who says they can't yet teach a person to give up smoking cuz they are still smoking etc.
Lesbians can take care of themselves. Str8 females always need to be tanked or protected in some way even if they are high profile CEOs. /hides one last time
I CAN'T HIDE ANYMORE. I CAN ONLY SHINE- BECAUSE I'M A FIREWORK.
u keep iterating this again and again. and again i say i really suspect it has to do with how women have been historically mistreated related to shorter stature and conditioning towards cowardice and helplesness. im not saying they cant have their "brave" moments or even more than males. but those kind of women would have been exterminated. i think its giving in to that vulnerable state as a way to face urself with ur greatest fears and overcum them lmao. ive had this theory about SOME gay men who go like that due to self hate, being rejected by women that pushes them towards men or being rejected by men for being weak or having a personality that would interpret the "innitiation" that is being "bullied" with various severity and is related to its own mentally ill shit with str8 ppl .which pushes the bulleid men with that predisposition to chasing their bullies as some kind of resolution of the conflict. a lot of things related to mental illness seem to ahve something to do with sexuality (both straight and gay).
the str8 abusers often have their own issues with vulnerability. why be vulnerable when u can repress feelings of physical and emotional pain. then whoever u abuse deserves it bc they are not protecting themselves (reprssing their feeligns completely which means they want to be abused in the abuser's mentality). and its also maybe fear of abusing someone like JP said which is only partially true where men afraid of hurting someone are more liable to doing it due to repressing it and losing control. which creatse more pressure to lose control. but then they are more afraid of hurting someone bc they are more aggressive by nature and have to repress it in the first place u stupid peterson.
and the counterphobic tendencies w here u chase what gives u pain bc the possibility of it hurting u keeps gnawing at u so its euphoric to meet it and "get it over with" so to say
and theres all the trauma men inflinct on each other so when met with someone kind they just keep abusing them bc they keep abusing other men but other men tend to fight back which now doesnt happen with the woman/gay.
a lot of women hate themslvs and see the same charactersitics of themselves in "weak" men so they go to the opposite. but also a lot of women themslves are abused and seek someone liek themselves. some women hate themselvse and seek someone bad bc they think they dont deserve anyone better.
sexuality may merge with all other repressed stuff when its repressed too which is prolly relevant since sexuality is very repressed in general regardless of what any conservative idiot thinks about modern society lol.
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if I was better you’d be better
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i mean that mistreatment on purpose, physical abuse and malnutrition so the body doesnt grow and breeding them young so they maldevelophow women have been historically mistreated related to shorter stature
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self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
yeah this is very true @VewyScawwyNawcissist . Even in San francisco's folsom street fair that celebrates a certain kind of public kink, has a lot of rules and regulations which in no doubt creates another shadow set of sexuality that gets driven underground etc. Although one could easily argue these rules are very necessary to protect society and be a part of having a healthy super-ego- they in turn naturally create kinks of their own as people tend to get off on doing things they aren't supposed to.sexuality may merge with all other repressed stuff when its repressed too which is prolly relevant since sexuality is very repressed in general regardless of what any conservative idiot thinks about modern society lol.
Raping somebody else and dating a bad boy ur family doesn't like is all part of this phenomenon I think even though obviously dating a bad boy is objectively a way lesser evil than actually raping another person. It is all the part of 'this is hot because it's wrong' lol and I think often times the more wrong we make something, the hotter it can be.
I guess it depends on the person - but I think if most everybody's true sexual desires and fantasies were to actually made light and on the streets- we'd all be vaporized instantly by an enneagram One. So sexuality often requires a bargaining with morality when it's exposed- even though that in turn is just naturally churning out darker impulses.
extreme conservatism is more about making sex into an ultra private and Fi thing all times to me so it is advocating things like banning all pornography, all displays of sexuality or discussion as it could offend somebody which in turn can not educate people properly about sexually transmitted diseases and health issues since often times the liberal reality of what ppl are really gonna do about sex - in some conservative's minds is like you are encouraging ppl to do it- but really it's just about the quote about how reality has a liberal bias.
I had a good day today.
I met a business customer who is also an EIE.
I met another LIE e3 who runs a company that does work for us. We spent some time trading stories of how we've handled employees who aren't willing to jump in and do any job, and our stories were basically the same. At one point, he said "I just realized that you and I are very similar." Lol.
He told me that his best hire was his secretary. He said that he now hires exclusively after giving job applicants a two-page questionnaire. He said that he goes strictly by numbers, and when he needed a secretary, two of the applicants had scores which were very close, so he hired the one whose scores were just a bit better.
"She worked for me for six weeks, which was five weeks and six days longer than she should have. I then called the second woman and asked her if she was still interested in the job?'
"She said to me, sarcastically, "What? I thought my scores weren't high enough?""
He replied to her "They weren't! But I still want to hire you."
"She worked out great. Let me introduce you to her."
So we walked over to her office and he introduced me to her. Her name is Susan and she is an ESI e9.
Obviously, this guy, who has been divorced twice, is slowly creeping towards his solution. Slowly.
On another note, my ILI tax guy told me that I didn't have to pay any Federal taxes this year, and I will even get a refund from the State. I just want to say that this is perfectly legal and perfectly obscene. Every year I make more money and every year I pay fewer taxes, and every year I want to strangle the legislators who have made this possible.
I happen to like this country, for the most part, and if too many people feel cheated, they are not going to lift a finger to preserve it. We need a government which works for the middle class, not the politically connected.
Basically, the more I accept my typing, the less I feel inclined to explain my behavior functionally or use excuses based on Jungian psychology.
Only like 1-2 episodes in:
"I like [this character] already, I don't know why."
My bf: "It's duality, he's a stereotypical LIE."
Lol that explains it.
Tommy from Peaky Blinders. Seems LIE-Ni and the Te/Ni is quite attractive.
Explaining things shouldnt be from defensiveness, but education, but ok. Non sarcastically, good for you ^^
H subtype description fit me the most. I'm not as competent as other ILI.
I'm a "Beggar" I see.
SLIs look like chipmunks
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self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
I was thinking of how T types handle ethics and the best image I got is hoping no shit hits a fan somewhere.
The 1D and 2D functions work on experience mostly, and norms for the 2D's, and that's not enough to deal with things in real time.
I’ve known about the +/- charge thing for IMs for awhile now, but still don’t have a confident understanding.
I suspect that the negative charge (-) indicates that the IM is at its best when dealing with stress, navigating chaos, and can be intense or unconfident.
I suspect that the positive charge (+) indicates that the IM is at its best when developing expectations, maintaining stability, and can be nonchalant or confident.
Do I misunderstand, or do I get it?
It was my ILE son's birthday this weekend and I got to meet his ESI friend. His ESI friend is very loyal to him but they bicker like an old married couple. lol
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
Just after college, I shared an apartment with an LII for a few years. We settled into a routine wherein we interacted almost not at all. Nor did either of us have other friends. It was like we were an old married couple and, quite frankly, it scared the hell out of me when I thought I might be doing that FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE.
He evidently felt the same way, because he came home from work one day and said he was moving out at the end of the month because he was getting married. Lol. He was a twenty-five year old virgin who had never been on a date. I asked him if he was marrying anyone he knew, and he got mad. He did move out and get married, though. I think it lasted six months, but by then he was gone and I had a girlfriend.
Extinguishment is like purgatory. You neither rise nor fall, but just endure an infinity of dull, gray hours. It is where initiative goes to die.
I picked the ESI up from this huge house in a rich people neighborhood. His parent's both drive 100,000 dollar cars. Then my son pointed out "do you see all this? He's rich but his parents won't give him any money. He doesn't even have his driver's license. They told him to get a job" The ESI had a gift card he had gotten for HIS birthday and he bought my son a new skateboard for his birthday. He's a really sweet kid.
My son talks about him a lot and they're both nice kids, but they both get cranky with each other. I don't think either of them even understands why they get that way with each other. What they do have is a mutual respect for each other.
My daughter bought one of those dream catchers and put it on the rear view mirror in the car. I used to have a real one my aunt gave me and it was made by one of the tribes members she works with as an archaeologist, so it was reminiscent to me. WELL my son got in the car and said "my ESI friend is not going to like that, he's native american and considers stuff like that as misappropiation. My son tells me this on the way to the ESI's house. I said "great" Then he gets in the car and immediately glances at it. So I feel like a basic bitch. THEN finally my ILE son breaks the ice, grabs the dream catcher and says "ESI, what do you think about this piece of shit?" He looked forward without responding and I said "my daughter thought it was so pretty and I used to have a real one, so it was reminiscent." He said "yeah it's pretty hard to find real dream catchers these days"
That was embarrassing.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
I saw my ESI sister this weekend and she kept looking at me nervously. Then when I got home she kept texting me about science fiction movies that are coming out. I think she's trying to communicate again!
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
ESI and ILE are initially enthralled with each other. Then they start to bicker. They don't go around calling each other reptiles.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
According to Strati ILE waits for public execution. I have certainly executed some ESIs publicly.
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im a witness of ILE's doing that. and i couldnt say anything back or so i thought. now that i think about it maybe i should have??
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Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
In my experience they kill themselves. It doesn't take much. However, I am very nice.
The mind is restless and difficult to restrain, but it is subdued by practice
-Krishna
Well, the darkest side of Ti is setting up a huge gorge between you and others.
Like this
https://youtu.be/8B0mWzB4GOQ?t=46
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Winning is for losers
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@Adam Strange: I'm reading more about China again. I remember travelling to Beijing and Shanghai in 2019, and that Beijing seemed very beta to me, it almost looked liked eastern germany, every building the same. then I went to Shanghai and it was completely different, skyscrapers everywhere, Hongkong looks very similar too. I've read that Shanghai and Hongkong are "special administrative regions" that are allowed to have a lot of financial activities, so these districts just developed a lot in a short time span. china is in that way different from russia that it allows gamma activities to a certain extend in designated areas while russia only has one ruler deciding everything. must be quite a depressing country to live in when you are LIE
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by night
https://s1.1zoom.me/big0/445/China_S...5_1280x720.jpg
Shanghai is decribed as a place full of excess, a constant vacation.
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I’m actually ILE. Can’t believe I fooled all of you idiots.
I think my parents have comparative relations.
Yes, I've been mirroring them by getting with IEI.
You know you're getting your shit together when you're factoring in imago with Socionics ITR.
Yes, yes, and yes. Lol
ESEs seem particularly impressionable types when they're young. They seem to take a while to really come into their own and get a full sense of themselves and what they want.
Regarding enneagram, I am skeptical of the idea that one should find a compatible enneatype to be in a relationship with. I hypothesize that it is much more fulfilling and intimate to understand the other person’s enneatype, regardless of what it is, and use that insight to help liberate them of their issues.
My ILE son met an SEI. He's a skater and he wasn't sure he wanted to date her. She brought her roller skates to the skate park and skated the half pike and biffed it. She got up and did it flawlessly. Now they're in love... She's no coward.
What's funny is that she told my son she wouldn't go to the skate park and he was mad at her for complaining. Then she just showed up.
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