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    Good Si is hard to describe. It is a state were the environment is perceived as through a filter, heavily colored by the unconscious.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Good Si is hard to describe. It is a state were the environment is perceived as through a filter, heavily colored by the unconscious.
    It’s easily observed. I can see my SEI nephew sitting back in a couch, in a very relaxed and let loose manner and taking things in.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    It’s easily observed. I can see my SEI nephew sitting back in a couch, in a very relaxed and let loose manner and taking things in.
    Yes. Thats how it looks from the outside. But whats being "taken in " is not "things" but the impressions that things make. The real environment is pretty much ignored.
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yes. Thats how it looks from the outside. But whats being "taken in " is not "things" but the impressions that things make. The real environment is pretty much ignored.
    Yes I agree with you. You said it well
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yes. Thats how it looks from the outside. But whats being "taken in " is not "things" but the impressions that things make. The real environment is pretty much ignored.
    Questions

    Does discomfort cause you to cry?
    Or do you cry when you are unable to come up with the words to explain your feelings?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Questions

    Does discomfort cause you to cry?
    Or do you cry when you are unable to come up with the words to explain your feelings?
    lol, Are you trying to type me? And I have to choose only between these two? I've never cried in these situations, and I don't see them as problems. I try to avoid discomfort as much as I can but I am not afraid of it either, and I can stand situations that are physically very uncomfortable. I don't know if I even try to explain my feelings very much, so it is not really a problem for me. I like to put words on feelings, but not explain. Most frustration I have with taking action and "operating in the world".
    The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.

    (Jung on Si)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    lol, Are you trying to type me? And I have to choose only between these two? I've never cried in these situations, and I don't see them as problems. I try to avoid discomfort as much as I can but I am not afraid of it either, and I can stand situations that are physically very uncomfortable. I don't know if I even try to explain my feelings very much, so it is not really a problem for me. I like to put words on feelings, but not explain. Most frustration I have with taking action and "operating in the world".
    Not at all. I have always typed you SEI and I am curious how the environment plays in your mind
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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