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    People of all types can have acute sensory abilities such as hearing, balance, depth perception, and hand-eye coordination; these are more reactive (stimulus-response) than truly cognitive in the Socionics sense - perhaps modelled as SLI-like in their execution although automatic. It might be erroneous to assign innate abilities, to which you allude, all to a particular information element.......

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    1. Footsteps ring a bell. I can usually tell who is walking down the stairs by the weight it seems to apply to the floor and the general rhythm. Sometimes I can ‘feel’ who is approaching me.
    2. Mostly I think I’m ok at this. But I know people who are much better.
    3. Sometimes. I definitely take it into consideration, but it’s not the only thing that matters. Really pretty people can be ugly and ugly peoples can be beautiful, just because of their personality, if that makes any sense
    4. I’m terrible at drawling. Possibly the worst I know. I think it’s something that would take practice and I haven’t really tried that much, so it could be partly that.
    5. No, I suck st things like that tbh
    6. ?
    7. I can tell the different between velvet and silk. Yes. If I knew the names of the wood, I’m sure I’d be able to distinguish given time and experience.
    8. Possibly. But I’m not sure about being better than others in this. I feel like it’s something to learn from experience

    One thing I have to say is that I am really good at spotting deer on the side of the road, before anyone else. Yesterday I heard the school bus approaching before anyone else, and I was in the freaking bathroom. People in the living room completely missed the fact it was right outside. However I can drive by a house for 15 years and one day just notice it. So idk lol
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    Se types have more attention on an environment "as is". Si more evaluate secondary as comfort/harmony of that

    having a functon as strong means, compared to average, easier studing and potentionally higher results taking same efforts. this may lead to better than average some skills in those regions

    > Master drawing or painting in a few days sensory lead

    to S relates the drawing in the sense to copy a picture or draw a composition, not from an imagination
    this can be trained in large degree. and may relate not only to Jung types, can be specific predispositions

    > Pick up driving in a few days

    driving, flying control correlate with S
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Iím Terrible with details and Iím not good with awareness of my environment and I donít have as high energy in a consistent way. I donít have great will power although I am determined and it just goes on and on. Iím also terrible at recognizing color matching and texture so I donít pay attention to it
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Good Si is hard to describe. It is a state were the environment is perceived as through a filter, heavily colored by the unconscious.
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Good Si is hard to describe. It is a state were the environment is perceived as through a filter, heavily colored by the unconscious.
    It’s easily observed. I can see my SEI nephew sitting back in a couch, in a very relaxed and let loose manner and taking things in.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Itís easily observed. I can see my SEI nephew sitting back in a couch, in a very relaxed and let loose manner and taking things in.
    Yes. Thats how it looks from the outside. But whats being "taken in " is not "things" but the impressions that things make. The real environment is pretty much ignored.
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yes. Thats how it looks from the outside. But whats being "taken in " is not "things" but the impressions that things make. The real environment is pretty much ignored.
    Yes I agree with you. You said it well
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I'm more interested in the aspect of Se that concerns knowing the right amount of force to exert on an object (including one's self) in order to move it through space--I will always be marveled by strong Se valuers' ability to do this seemingly with ease, precision, sophistication and mastery.

    Throughout my career, I've worked closely with MMA fighters (namely Beta STs) and Ballet/Modern dancers (Gamma SFs) and it truly is a talent to know just the right amount of force to use when kicking or jumping in order to land a blow or stick a landing successfully/accurately/beautifully. I'm naturally like a bull in a China shop. Manifesting any kind of corporeal grace takes focus and concentration on the present moment without getting pulled into my Ni (which is probably envisioning the end result of whatever it is I should be "focused" and "present" for), which is difficult.

    I'd wager LIE/ENTJ commanders are known for brutality in battle because of low D Se and not being able to readily discern how much force is enough, and instead opting to use full force so as to completely decimate and annihilate one's opponent, so as to not allow them a chance to regroup. IME, Beta STs don't have to go all out like that because they are far more confident in their ability to succesfully neutralize a threat without being "unnecessary."
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    Staying in the present moment is hard af. I try though and I have my moments. My mind is always wandering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    I'm more interested in the aspect of Se that concerns knowing the right amount of force to exert on an object (including themslves) in order to move it through space--I will always be marveled by strong Se valuers' ability to do this seemingly with ease, precision, sophistication and mastery.

    Throughout my career, I've worked closely with MMA fighters (namely Beta STs) and Ballet/Modern dancers (Gamma SFs) and it truly is a talent to know just the right amount of force to use when kicking or jumping in order to land a blow or stick a landing successfully/accurately/beautifully. I'm naturally like a bull in a China shop. Manifesting any kind of corporeal grace takes focus and concentration on the present moment without getting pulled into my Ni (which is probably envisioning the end result of whatever it is I should be "focused" and "present" for), which is difficult.

    I'd wager LIE/ENTJ commanders are known for brutality in battle because of low D Se and not being able to readily discern how much force is enough, and instead opting to use full force so as to completely decimate and annihilate one's opponent, so as to not allow them a chance to regroup. IME, Beta STs don't have to go all out like that because they are far more confident in their ability to succesfully neutralize a threat without being "unnecessary."
    An SEE coworker would go up to people confidently and even bump into them but very confidently and unassumingly say ďoh excuse me!Ē And literally move people to part for her way. It was interesting to observe. She was great and very friendly though and would shop for me. Their Se doesnít always work smoothly. Sometimes they can drive their SO up the wall
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    1. I can tell who it is by the way they walk up stairs if I've heard it a couple of times. Silhouettes are hit or miss.
    2. If someone has gone behind me I unconsciously keep track of where they are. I keep track of shadows and movement easily.

    3. I haven't tried driving yet, but I'm really good at bumper cars, if that counts. I also have a faster reaction time while biking than some friends.

    Also, what @Beautiful sky describes about the SEE bumping/touching people to have them make way, that's something I do as well. It comes naturally to reach out and gently nudge them by the arm or shoulder one way or another.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Yes. Thats how it looks from the outside. But whats being "taken in " is not "things" but the impressions that things make. The real environment is pretty much ignored.
    Questions

    Does discomfort cause you to cry?
    Or do you cry when you are unable to come up with the words to explain your feelings?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    intuitives always surprise me with how they arenít aware of some things lol but Ni leads have it worse from my experience. A particular thing happened that an ILI was looking for a shirt and called it a shirt with flowers (I had it)
    .) finally I brought it out one day and they actually meant a shirt with two ovals. They mistook ovals for flowers, who knows what else they miss
    My mom is INTP. Although she can have her own sense of style she is often in envy of her girlfriendís ability to look well put together and she tries to too but often gives up because she can not. Itís alright! She has a great memory for stories and poems and she recites them to my daughter
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    intuitives always surprise me with how they aren’t aware of some things lol but Ni leads have it worse from my experience. A particular thing happened that an ILI was looking for a shirt and called it a shirt with flowers (I had it)
    .) finally I brought it out one day and they actually meant a shirt with two ovals. They mistook ovals for flowers, who knows what else they miss
    Right now looking at my feet I have a gray sock and a black sock. Sometimes I wear shirts inside out. One day I was wearing different pair of shoes. It is not bad though it usually seems like I'm pre cathing time before things happen. Makes lots of drivers freaked out when I just predetermine somethings in advance when riding a bike (like holding balance – they think I'm going to ride in front of them and stop).
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    Are you a:
    1. ĎI can recognize people by their silhouettes or footstepsí Sensory lead
    I used to be able to recognize my familyís footsteps when I lived with them. When I was a kid, Iíd get punished for reading at night. So I learned to be able to recognize very soft footsteps, and especially to distinguish between them ó I could breathe a little more easily if I heard my sister going to get a glass of water as opposed to hurriedly turning off my light and pretending to be asleep. But I donít have this ability with other people, and Iím not sure Iíd be able to do this with my family anymore.

    2. Knows where everyone is at any given time sensory lead
    Is omniscience S-related? Tbh, Iím not sure what this question is meant to get at, so I guess it doesnít apply to me.

    3. Judge people by their cover sensory lead
    Iíd describe myself as a very judgemental person. Iíve been described that way by others too fwtw. These judgements tend to come quickly, and are generally negative: namely, for the most part, that people are self-centered morons.

    4. Master drawing or painting in a few days sensory lead
    Iím a philistine and can neither appreciate artwork nor draw an animal that doesnít look like a fat caterpillar.

    5. Pick up driving in a few days sensory lead
    It took me several months to feel comfortable driving.

    6. Builexô️ sensory lead
    ?

    7. Categorize wood type, fabric and other textures sensory lead
    I donít even tend to know the names for those sorts of categories, let alone be able to know them by touch.

    8. Figure out someoneís origin by build sensory lead
    I donít think I can do this by build, but I like to guess this sort of thing by talking with people. For instance, I was once talking with a guy and thought ďThis guy seems like heís a high school gym teacher.Ē Lo and behold he tells me heís a retired high school gym teacher.

    So, what kind of sensory lead am I??
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    I'm a walk into a bathroom and figure out who's taking a shit sensory lead

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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    an intuitive one
    Is that good?? シ
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    Are you a:
    1. ‘I can recognize people by their silhouettes or footsteps’ Sensory lead
    2. Knows where everyone is at any given time sensory lead
    3. Judge people by their cover sensory lead
    4. Master drawing or painting in a few days sensory lead
    5. Pick up driving in a few days sensory lead
    6. Builex™️ sensory lead
    7. Categorize wood type, fabric and other textures sensory lead
    8. Figure out someone’s origin by build sensory lead

    Ofc this applies more to Se users and mine is pretty specific, so anyone can add their own.
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    Super Se here...she's pretty ...but all her shoes look the same to me

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONB2AUmfcdE
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Questions

    Does discomfort cause you to cry?
    Or do you cry when you are unable to come up with the words to explain your feelings?
    lol, Are you trying to type me? And I have to choose only between these two? I've never cried in these situations, and I don't see them as problems. I try to avoid discomfort as much as I can but I am not afraid of it either, and I can stand situations that are physically very uncomfortable. I don't know if I even try to explain my feelings very much, so it is not really a problem for me. I like to put words on feelings, but not explain. Most frustration I have with taking action and "operating in the world".
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    lol, Are you trying to type me? And I have to choose only between these two? I've never cried in these situations, and I don't see them as problems. I try to avoid discomfort as much as I can but I am not afraid of it either, and I can stand situations that are physically very uncomfortable. I don't know if I even try to explain my feelings very much, so it is not really a problem for me. I like to put words on feelings, but not explain. Most frustration I have with taking action and "operating in the world".
    Not at all. I have always typed you SEI and I am curious how the environment plays in your mind
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    Are you a:
    1. ‘I can recognize people by their silhouettes or footsteps’ Sensory lead
    2. Knows where everyone is at any given time sensory lead
    3. Judge people by their cover sensory lead
    4. Master drawing or painting in a few days sensory lead
    5. Pick up driving in a few days sensory lead
    6. Builex™️ sensory lead
    7. Categorize wood type, fabric and other textures sensory lead
    8. Figure out someone’s origin by build sensory lead

    Ofc this applies more to Se users and mine is pretty specific, so anyone can add their own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faith View Post
    Wow the most useless person on tHe planet nice
    Wow ur profile picture is ugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    wow the most useless skills on the planet nice
    Would you two like to get married?
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    You two are so cute. Youíre like a married couple still in love hahah
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Absolute crap by that standard.

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    I turned on the wrong burner again... (yesterday this burned an EIE family member)

    Is this a sign of bad sensory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bouncingoffclouds View Post
    I turned on the wrong burner again... (yesterday this burned an EIE family member)

    Is this a sign of bad sensory?
    Only if you burn down the entire neighborhood.
    Measuring you right now

    Winning is for losers

     

    Sincerely yours,
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    I want to share a story, but I don't know if it's a good idea. Let's just say one time I came home to a house filled with smoke.

    Okay, I will just say it. I was boiling hummingbird water on the stove and I forgot and decided to walk my dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    You two are so cute. You’re like a married couple still in love hahah
    youre a married couple out of love? yikes

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    Couldn't really answer this without a real world test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    youre a married couple out of love? yikes
    Of course
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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