I think you hit the nail on the head with upbringing and societal factors being a part of this. I couldn't remember who made the comments about IEE, I just knew a couple people had and it had me scratching my head, even before I settled on this typing for myself. I was writing down some thoughts, but I don't really want to go into it or be self-revealing. Maybe enneagram does play a factor in this... and I'm not sure why women would have it so different from men in this typing. I just think it's a joke from my perspective, but any type is prone to having issues that could make it not so easy for them.